Interview with Heather Locklear

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Panelists for the movie "Don't Sweat the Small Stuff" on Lifetime

Interview with actor Heather Locklear, executive produers Meghan McCain and Maura Dunbar, and author Kristine Carlson of “Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff: The Kristine Carlson Story” on Lifetime by Suzanne 9/14/21

This was a fun panel. These women clearly enjoyed the story they were producing and became great friends. I was very happy to speak to Heather Locklear, who is about my same age (as it turns out). I used to watch her all the time on “TJ Hooker” and “Dynasty,” and then later on “Spin City,” and of course, “Melrose Place.” She’s very good in this movie, too. I’m glad to see her doing more acting. She had some personal and legal problems in 2018, but it sounds like she’s cleaned up her act. That’s great because we all missed her. She seems so nice in this interview, and I just love that chair she’s sitting in. It was such a great group of people. It’s the first time that I ever saw a star stop the panel from ending so that she could tell everyone how much she loves them! That was very sweet.

Don’t forget to watch “Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff” this Saturday, October 16 on Lifetime!

Heather Locklear and Kristine Carlson

MODERATOR:  Hi, everybody.  Our last panel today is “Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff: The Kristine Carlson Story.”  We’re pleased to welcome and have with us today Heather Locklear, and I think she’ll be on camera in just a minute, who stars in the movie, author Kristine Carlson, and executive producers Meghan McCain and Maura Dunbar.  Thank you all for joining us, and I think we’re just going to give Heather just one more second to get on camera and then we will get started.  Just a reminder to anyone who’d like to ask a question, use the raise your hand button at the bottom of your screen.  If you have the newer version of Zoom it’s by hitting the reactions button, and if you have the older Zoom version use the participants’ button, so that’s just how you can raise your hand.  Just give us one more second and we will get started, so thank you so much.  While we wait for Heather to get on camera I’m going to start with a question I just received for Maura.  Maura, it seems like “Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff” has been a passion project of yours for years in the making.  Can you briefly share with the audience your personal story behind making this movie a reality?

MAURA DUNBAR:  Thank you so much for that question, yes.  This project, this little book “Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff” has been a 21-year passion project of mine.  It started because, sadly, 27 years ago I lost four immediate family members in my life, and Richard’s book came out about six or seven years after that, and I found that book, and the book, even though it’s about not sweating the small stuff, and I was enveloped by the darkness of loss and grief, the little pinpoints of light that Richard so beautifully distills in his books about not sweating the small stuff in everyday living became the little footholds that I was able to grab onto, and as you started to string those little pieces of light together, when you’re so overwhelmed and you can’t see your way through, those little lights became beams of light, became rays of light that began to light up the room where I began to find my way through, and when you’re so lost and you find that pathway it became the pathway to healing for me.  And so I had the privilege of, when I left ABC as a network executive after sixteen years, of being introduced to Richard by his publisher, and I drove up.  I flew up and met Richard, Dr. Carlson, and Kris and had the pleasure of spending a weekend up there and getting to know them and got the rights, and it’s been an honor and a privilege, and it’s just been a passion of mine for the last 21 years to be a steward of Richard’s in getting this story out there, and Kris has been amazing and in indulging me for forever coming back to her, knocking on her door and saying, “I’ve got another chance, I’ve got another chance.”  And now with the incredible support of Tanya Lopez and Lifetime, who was my first agent, by the way, when I sold it for the very first time twenty years ago at ABC as a half hour.  So thanks to Tanya Lopez and my producing partner Mark Teitelbaum on the project, who’s not with us, and to Meghan McCain.  So thank you.  It has been an amazing journey.  I cried the first day of filming.  And to Heather Locklear who has just done, I want to say, the most unbelievable, breathtaking job taking on the role of Kris Carlson and has been one of the most amazing professionals I’ve ever working with in the business under sweltering heat conditions that I’ve never seen anyone be so unflappable on a set with such a great sense of humor.  I think it’s her best work to date.  So thank you for the question.  It’s been the most important movie I’ve made in my 37-year career.

MODERATOR:  Thank you so much, Maura.  And welcome, Heather.


MODERATOR:  And the next question is from Jay Bobbin.

QUESTION:  Hello, everyone —


QUESTION:  Hi, Heather.  Actually, my question if for Meghan.  How did it come to be that you became attached to this material, and maybe this is me watching “The View,” and bravo on your years there, but are you kind of surprised this is your first TV movie as opposed to something maybe a little more political?

MEGHAN MCCAIN:  Yeah.  It’s funny.  This is the only — the second thing I’ve ever executive produced, and the last one was a very serious political documentary, so it’s I’m delighted to be doing something that everyone in my life will want to consume because, obviously, politics is incredibly divisive, and this is something that is meant to be, you know, feel good and it’s going to bring people together.  I had read “Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff” at different incarnations in my life.  I read it when I was much younger when my mother had read it when it first was released, and I told Kristine and Maura when I first met them it was a book that my mother had on her nightstand in her bedroom growing up, and I can remember just the very distinctive title and it always being sort of like something I remembered, and then after my dad died I went on Amazon and just looked up books that were good for grief, and the book came up again, books for good — the good books about in moments of crisis in your life.  And then my agent had come to me saying Lifetime was possibly interested in partnering with me on projects, and I said it would have to be something that would be organic and something that I would have to be authentically passionate about, otherwise, it wouldn’t work.  And when Maura came to me with “Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff” I felt like it was incredibly serendipitous, because I had started rereading again for some of its meaningful and evergreen messages during COVID, and I just was so excited at the idea of this medium being turned into a film because, again, I have a lot of friends who are incredibly busy and they don’t have time to read all the time.  Sometimes they don’t have the bandwidth, and I just think Kristine’s story and Richard’s story is something that so many people can relate to, especially post COVID during this time of such pain and loss.  And I’m just really proud of it, and I’m really excited to be doing something that everyone I know and everyone I respect has been excited about and will be excited to watch.  And this is a movie that you’ll be able to watch thirty years from now and fifty years from now and sixty years from now.  I really believe this is going to be one of those movies that’s going to stay in our lexicon just like the book has.  So it’s really just a privilege to be working with these incredible women and to be a part of this project, and I’m really delighted, and I just am so excited for its release coming out soon, and it’s around my birthday, and I just — I don’t know.  It’s just been — This whole experience has been wonderful and I’m really, really honored to be a part of it.

QUESTION:  Thank you very much.

MODERATOR:  Thank you, Jay.  We thank you, Meghan.  The next question is from Suzanne.

QUESTION:  Hi.  My question is for Heather.  Did you meet Kristine before the filming of the movie and talk to her to get an idea about your character at all?

HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  Yes.  I did meet her.  I flew up on a coach flight, just saying, to meet her, and she picked me up and was a little late but, yeah, I went up, and I spent the night, and we spent a night with our friends, both of our friends that happened to know each other, which is all synchronicity.  And I had read the book before, and I had talked to her a lot saying I can’t get through your book right away, because it’s making me cry.  It’s giving me — which happens every time I talk about it.  Anyway, so, meeting her was such a joy and such a light in my life, and I can’t imagine what she was and is in everyone else’s light — life, but meeting her, and I went to dinner, and she talked about all kinds of stuff and showed me Richard’s jacket that was in her office that stayed there since he passed — that’s fifteen years, by the way — and told me different stories and told me stuff that I was afraid of, to do, to play, and how, you know, what happened.  And then I got to have coffee with her in the morning in her bed, and I felt like this must have been what Richard and Kris together.  They sat there with their coffee.  They meditated right here, and it felt so unique and so special and on a different level than I am on.  I would like to be her level, but I’m not quite there, or their level.  And it was so, so special, so special that she’s coming out for my 60th birthday to stay with me, yay.  What more can I say?  Oh, I can say something else that has nothing to do with that question.  So my mom says today that Meghan is her favorite person.  She’s watched her.  Yeah, and but she actually happens to love your husband.

MEGHAN MCCAIN:  Then she is hardcore, she loves my husband —

HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  She’s hardcore.  She’s definitely.  She’s so hardcore that I have to stop her and go: “Enough, don’t sweat the small stuff; don’t sweat the small stuff.”  But she’s in love with your husband and thinks you’re fantastic.

MEGHAN MCCAIN:  Thank you.

HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  And that’s all I wanted to tell you and let you know that.

MEGHAN MCCAIN:  Thank you very much.


MEGHAN MCCAIN:  Tell her, please, thank you.

HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  Oh, trust me.

QUESTION:  Thank you.

MODERATOR:  Thank you, Suzanne.  Thank you, Heather.  The next question is from Jamie Ruby.

QUESTION:  Hi.  Thanks for talking to me.  Heather, obviously, you’ve been acting for quite a long time now, but is there anything that you still find challenging when you do a project like this?

HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  Oh, no.  The challenging part was it was so fearful to me, and it was the second to the last day is when I get on the phone, and I find out that Richard has passed.  And Kris had told me — oh, my God.  I’m going to die — she had told me this is what I did, this is what I did, and I said I’m so glad that you’re telling me because I don’t want to ask this question of how it felt or what it did.  And she said, “It’s almost like a child died.”  And that stopped me in my tracks, and I’m like I can’t go there.  I can’t do it.  So it’s always my fear of the whole, like, when is this going to be scheduled that I have to take in when her husband died.  And I’ve read her book and what happened and all that.  And I’m like, okay, I’ll go back to these pages before I do this, and we talked on the phone the morning of, because they wanted to know certain things, the producers and director wanted to know certain things about what happened and blah, blah, blah, and I go I can get her on the phone right now.  And so my fear was I’m not going to where my child passes.  I could never do that.  So that was my fear and what am I going to go to.  I don’t even know what I went to, because it was the spirit of Richard, the spirit of Kris, so that was challenging, and they did it great.  They did all kinds of shots and all, and so it felt — I felt very safe, but that was my biggest fear.

QUESTION:  Thank you so much

MODERATOR:  Thank you both.  The next question is from Francine Brokaw.

QUESTION:  There we go.  Yeah.  I read the book ages ago.  It seems like a lifetime ago.  But I want to know from the whole panel have you really perfected the art of not sweating the small stuff, because in this crazy world, I mean, it’s hard to just go through life all the time and just be la-la about the really small stuff, but they do affect us.  So how do you deal with that?  Have you perfected that art?

MAURA DUNBAR:  Well, I can say it’s sort of an ongoing process, but it’s having read these books and lived with these books for so long and being dear friends with Kris.  In fact Kris and I have the same birthday, July 5th.  I don’t know if it’s July 5th girls, but it’s about being mindful and treasuring the journey, as Kris often says, and just being centered in not getting caught up in those small, little things and being in gratitude for so much, and life is filled with those little joys if you just change your perspective and focus on that, and that’s what being with Richard and being with Kris and reading these books and being with this material for so long has taught me.  So I really do try, and it kind of starts to come naturally after a long time, and after 21 years it’s kind of come naturally by now.

QUESTION:  Meghan?

MEGHAN MCCAIN:  Oh, my gosh.  Well, if you’re asking me if I’m good at don’t sweat the small stuff, not all the time, but I am working on it.  And one of the mantras from the book that always helped me is “make peace with imperfection.”

HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  (Inaudible @ 01:50:53).

MEGHAN MCCAIN:  I find myself, yeah, it’s my favorite one, I find myself saying that to my — in so many — I have a almost one-year-old daughter, and there’s something about motherhood that you just really have to surrender and make peace with imperfection, and there are so many small pockets of wisdom in the book that I and hundreds of millions of other people find so accessible.  And I think all of us, no matter who are you, I think are going through some kind of existential moment in the past two years because of the nature of the crisis that have happened in the world.  And I think the best part about “Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff” is that it is accessible and it’s not overwhelming for people that want to grow and want to sort of make changes in their life that are more accessible than say, you know, whatever, reading the Dalai Lama.  I have given this book to, I have it on my Amazon list, and I have sent it to eight people in the past few months just saying, “This is a book that will really help you, and it’s not overwhelming, and you can just read ten pages at night before you go to bed, whatever.”  And some of my friends, I think, sometimes when things are so popular people just are thinking that maybe it’s not evergreen, and so many of my friends have just been saying how much it’s helped them; how much it’s helping them get through this moment.  And I’m trying, but I also find that the book is something you can really just continue reading and dip in and out of.  And there’s other incarnations of it like, “Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff for Moms,” and, etcetera, and I think that I’m certainly trying, and I think that’s all we can hope for anyone.


HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  I’ll — oh, sorry.  No, go, Kris.  Go, my friend.

KRISTINE CARLSON:  Oh, no.  Go ahead.  You go ahead, Heather.


KRISTINE CARLSON:  Oh, yeah.  I was just going to say that “Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff” is really a life philosophy.  It’s something that is the way you practice every day, and like Meghan just so beautifully said, it’s the small ways that we practice life that makes the biggest difference in our lives.  And what’ happened over the last 25 years of the series is that the book tends to do very well in times of crisis, because people need to get back to the basics and, certainly, what we’ve all been through this last two years shows us that life is very basic, and if you don’t get back to the basics you’re going to get lost in all of the worry and the concerns and the troubles that we see ahead of us.  And I also want to say that when you have a real-life crisis happen to you, what you were sweating the day before that crisis happened never gets on your radar again.  And, certainly, as you recover from crisis there are small things that get to you at different times.  I will never say that I am the one that never sweats the small stuff.  That simply is not possible nor true, but like I said, it is a philosophy, and it helps you to focus on what matters most to your heart when you don’t sweat the small stuff.  And at the very cornerstone of the philosophy is to be grateful for the small things in life, because life is incredibly precious.

HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  Okay.  Now I’ll speak.  I didn’t know that it was make peace with imperfection.  I thought it was make peace with perfection, but that’s from the script.  I don’t know.  And, you know, they write whatever they write.  But I think one of the things that Meghan was talking about is imperfect or perfection that we learn every day.  We learn something new, hopefully, if we connect with people.  And I would always say on the set, I’m such an a-hole, I would say, now only to Maura — maybe I would, because she was a little bit uptight; just a little involved — I would say, “Don’t sweat the small stuff; don’t sweat the small stuff.  It’s a movie.  The sun will go down.  The sun will come up.  We’ll be alive or we’ll be dead.”  And I used to do that on other things that I worked with that I was in fear of, in front of an audience.  I would go, “Okay, the sun’s going to go down.  I will be alive when it comes up.”  And so being a kind of jerky person, I would say to other people, because they’re going we’re trying to get the lights, I’d go: “Don’t sweat the small stuff.  It’s just a movie.”  But it’s a beautiful movie and it’s a beautiful story, but I kept trying to say that, and even in my fears of what I was doing: “Heather, you’re going to be okay.  Everything’s going to work out.  Everything will be okay.”  And I actually came into this book I think in the nineties maybe, and I was so busy working — So I read it.  I did read it, and until you’re kind of solid and not busy doing things in your life in a busy world, you don’t really grasp it, but I think in the last year-and-a-half it was easier to grasp, and because we’re all sitting still, and it’s so simplified —


HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  And like Oprah said that she put it on her night table, I had it in my bathroom.  Sorry.  Sorry.  Because that’s where we don’t sweat the small stuff according to my boyfriend.  Maura (inaudible).  But reading a little bit at a time, because you can only —


HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  It’s so specific and so good that if we just take the one step that we read that day, it’s almost like reading a Bible verse or something, maybe that’s too much, and you take that into your day and you can learn something, you can remember it, you can’t remember it, you can go back.  So that’s all I’ve got.


MAURA DUNBAR:  Well, she did help me on set.  That’s true.  I do tend to sweat the small stuff when I’m working on set, but in my personal life I do try to make peace with imperfection ergo the not sweating the small stuff.  But, yes, as a producer, yes, I want everything to be perfect.  I admit it.  I’m sorry.  But that’s why we have such a beautiful movie, I believe.

HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  Don’t be sorry.  You were amazing.  You were effing amazing, and you brought the world down.  When she would come, the first day of set, I think after we finished the first day, she gave this story about Kris and it’s not about Maura.  It’s about Kris and Richard, but it’s about Maura and all of her trying to get this together, and it would bring people to tears, because it was so heartfelt and so real and what she’s worked on and all, and then I have to go: “Wait, this is Kris and Richard, because they’re combined lives of Maura,” and it’s all their story together.  So it was always a blessing to have you there, my friend.

MODERATOR:  Thank you, Francine.  We’re going a tiny bit over.  I know we started a tiny bit late.  So we’re going to try to squeeze in two last questions.  The first person to ask would be Dana and then followed by Steve Gidlow.  Dana?

QUESTION:  Hi.  My question is for Heather.  Why was this the right project for you to return to TV with, and how did it feel to be back?

HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  It felt like what I was praying for, and I’m like God-driven, and I was praying for something solid for me that had to do with something spiritually that was important, and that was really what I was praying for, because I didn’t want to do light — I’ve done lightweight stuff.  I didn’t want the dumb stuff.  Sitcoms are great but unless they’re “Veep” they’re not my kind of sitcoms.  And so it’s weird that when you pray for something it comes or it doesn’t come, but it seemed to come.  And that was super important to me and spirituality and God, and I don’t know how this happens, but it landed in my lap.  And then these two great people showed up, Maura and Mark Teitelbaum, and I was just so — I felt so blessed, and it was just something special that I go I can do this, and then I had Valerie Bertinelli tell me, because I was scared, and my makeup artist who does her, too, and I said, “I’m scared remembering lines,” and blah, blah, blah, and it came back in seconds.  And she said, “Heather, it will, you will, it’s like riding a bike.”  It’s so easy, and it was so easy.  I don’t know why we’re so fearful of memorizing lines.  How about getting the emotion across?  I don’t know.  But that was just it felt really good to hear from someone else fearing the way I feared, and it’s always been important for me to memorize lines.  I’m always nervous.  But these great people came and then Kris came and Meghan came, and it all fit together.  I love that I see women, four women.

MEGHAN MCCAIN:  Yeah.  It’s pretty cool.

HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  I think it’s fantastic.  I’ve always been a woman’s woman.  I’ve always been competitive with men, which does not mean men are bad, but I used to race them and would come in second to one man and four boys.  So I’ve always been competitive, and because I don’t think there’s a difference, but then there’s love and there’s opening your arms to sisterhood, and I think Ellen Pressman being our director, was unbelievable about women, right, about women and the softness of her direction, which wasn’t hard and do this and this is important, this scene, or this angle is important.  It was incredible, and she came to me with flowers.  I’m like what are you doing?  And I was in sweats and stuff.  I’m like, “Oh, you’re being so formal.”  But it was just amazing that Maura put together a great bunch of women that can support each other.  No bashing on men because we have Mark. Mark’s my (inaudible @ 02:01:49) who I love.

MAURA DUNBAR:  He loves women, too.

MEGHAN MCCAIN:  And he apparently does.  No, not apparently.  No, no, no.  He’s very married.  But, yeah, so I thought it was an amazing project.

QUESTION:  Thank you, Heather.  Thank you, Dana.  And the last question for today is Steve Gidlow.

QUESTION:  Hi.  My question’s actually for Kristine.  Given you’re collaborators on this, obviously, you’re all cheering about it, how safe did you feel having the story told?  And second part is how excited were you that Heather was the one that was going to be telling it?

HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  Tell the story of Pepperdine.


HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  I don’t know.

KRISTINE CARLSON:  Yeah.  Oh, well, I will tell that story.  So, first of all, I want to say just my heartfelt thanks is really to Maura Dunbar, and to the writer that was hired, Shannon Colleary, because I knew that they had my back on this, and I knew that they were going to share the story with their whole hearts, and that made me feel a lot more comfortable just knowing that.  It’s a very vulnerable position to share probably what you could consider the worst of year of your life and the worst year of your children’s lives.  And, of course, my kids are grown now.  They’re thirty and thirty-two years old, and I have five grandkids now.  And so it was very vulnerable for me to bring them into it in such a public way as well.  So, I really trusted Maura and trust her, and I trusted Shannon, and I worked very closely with Shannon, and I just knew.  I just knew that this was going to be a good thing for people.  I knew that, I believe that it’s how we learn is through story, and I believe that it’s part of the hero’s journey is to share your story and to bring home a message of hope and healing to other people.  And you can’t really take advice on grief from somebody who hasn’t gone through it.  You can’t really understand or people don’t think you understand unless you’ve been through it.  So I’m really hoping that story sheds so much hope.  And also a pathway for people to follow so that they know they can return to life again and return to joy and that life continues, and you have to learn to continue with grief.  So that said, I was absolutely, I mean, truly just — I don’t think there’s any woman alive that wouldn’t be thrilled to have Heather Locklear play them.


KRISTINE CARLSON:  I mean, I think she was the — You know, she’s just, in my mind, I mean, I, of course, was a big fan always.  She was at UCLA when I was at Pepperdine.  We have all these very weird, common synchronicities that have happened.  And she said that she put up this prayer for this project to come by, and we had this really amazing synchronicity where one of her college roommates turned out to be one of Richard’s very first crushes in junior high, and it’s one of her very best friends, and we find out all of these common threads and that really not six degrees of separation, but more like one-and-a-half degrees of separation, and I really felt that this was very divinely orchestrated, and that Heather was picked and hand chosen by my husband Richard to play me in this movie.  So it’s been amazing.  It’s been an amazing journey to get to know her and to just really fall in love with who she is as a beautiful woman and just a woman with just tremendous heart and empathy.  So I’m thrilled.  Like I couldn’t have asked for — But she was everything I had hoped for and more, way more.

QUESTION:  Thank you so much.

MODERATOR:  Thank you, Steve.  And thank you, Kristine, and special thanks to all of our panelists for “Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff.”  We really appreciate you sharing your stories today.  That concludes Lifetime’s fall movie press day.  To all of you —

HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  Can I just say I love everyone on this panel.  I think I look like Jennifer Aniston in this — I don’t know who that is in the freaking left, I don’t know who, but I feel pretty.  But thanks Maura and Meghan and Kris.  I’m so grateful to be a part of this and thank you.  You all move me.

MEGHAN MCCAIN:  Yeah.  Thank you too —

KRISTINE CARLSON:  And then I just have to say really quick that my daughter, when she found out that you were involved was like, oh, my God, she is such a kick ass woman.

MEGHAN MCCAIN:  I’m really just so honored to be a part of this, and everyone is so inspiring.  And, Maura, thank you for even thinking of me to begin with and Kristine.  And, obviously, Heather, you’re a fucking icon, so it’s incredible to have my name attached to anything you’re attached —

HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  Meghan your name is attached to my parent so big I’m just —

MEGHAN MCCAIN:  Okay.  I’m going to have my husband make a video for your mom, which he does, because women over 60 love my mom and my husband.


MEGHAN MCCAIN:  So I’m happy to have him make a video for you, but I’m just very —

HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  But she loves you, too.  She loves you, too.

MEGHAN MCCAIN:  But I just hope —

HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  And then she went off on your husband.

MEGHAN MCCAIN:  Thank you.  I hope people — You know, grief has been a big theme for all of us.  It’s been something we’ve all experienced.  Maura, when you originally shared your story about the immense amount of grief you went through losing so many family members.  Obviously, Kristine and Heather, I know you have as well.  And one of my passions in life is helping people get over grief, because I don’t think it’s something that we talk about enough in culture, in anything, in any medium.  Americans are very fearful of talking about grief, and this is a very accessible, kind story that has a philosophy, literally, a book and philosophy behind it, and I really think this is going to help and heal people in a time when people really need helping and healing.  So that’s why I’m so passionate about this movie as well, and I just think it’s going to be hugely impactful and hugely healing for a lot of people.

HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  You are spectacular.

MAURA DUNBAR:  (Inaudible) for Meghan.


HEATHER LOCKLEAR:  Actually, all three of you are spectacular —

MAURA DUNBAR:  You’re awesome.

KRISTINE CARLSON:  As are you, Heather.

MODERATOR:  I concur.  And thank you all.  Really appreciate it.


MODERATOR:  And thank you to all of our attendees who tuned in today hearing about our entire fall slate, and thank you very much.




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Saturday, October 16 at 8p/7c

Co-authors of The New York Times bestselling book series, Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff, Kristine Carlson (Locklear) and her husband Dr. Richard Carlson (Jason MacDonald) had an amazing life with their two daughters.  But when Richard tragically passes away, Kristine is knocked off balance.  Comfortable with living in Richard’s shadow, she is now forced to navigate the unchartered territory of becoming a single mom while dealing with pressure to become the new face and voice of the Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff brand.  Looking deep inside herself, Kristine comes to understand the true essence of emotional authenticity and not sweating the small stuff, which leads to the resilience and confidence needed to carry on the legacy of the beloved brand.  

Selling over 25 million copies, the groundbreaking inspirational book, Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff, teaches how to put challenges in perspective, reduce stress and anxiety through little daily changes, and guides how to let go of the small things to attain peace of mind in order to achieve goals.

Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff is produced for Lifetime by The Johnson Production Group and Teitelbaum Artists.  Maura Dunbar (The American Bible Challenge, What Should You Do?), Mark Teitelbaum (Superior Donuts, The Crazy Ones) and Meghan McCain (The View, Moms) are executive producers.  Ellen S. Pressman will direct from a script written by Shannon Bradley-Colleary.

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Interview with creators of Covenant, Lace and Partners in Rhyme

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TCA Panel for ALLBLK shows

Interview with creators of Covenant, Lace and Partners in Rhyme on ALLBLK by Suzanne 8/17/21

ALLBLK’s Developing and Creating While Black: Covenant, Partners in Rhyme, and Lace
Nikki Love (VP, development and production for ALLBLK)
MC Lyte (Star/Co-Creator, Partners in Rhyme)
Kaye Singleton (Creator, Covenant)
Katrina Y. Nelson (Creator, Lace)
Michelle Ebony Hardy (Creator, Lace)

“Covenant” premieres October 14th. There are no exact premiere dates set yet for “Lace” or “Partners in Rhyme” – they’re premiering “in the fall.”

This was an interesting TCA panel because it wasn’t about just one show. There were a few panels like this, where the panel consisted of a group of people from different shows that they had united under one umbrella topic. The problem with that is that we only get one or two questions, and if they have a lot of different stars that we want to talk to, it makes it difficult to choose. This one, though, was mostly writers and producers. I wasn’t familiar with most of them. I believe MC Lyte was the only one I’d heard of before.

I greeted them all and said, “It’s great to see an all-female panel. That’s wonderful.”

Kaye Singleton agreed with a “Yes.” I asked Nikki Love, “Was there a push from the networks to have more female-centered shows on the network?”

She replied that women are their target audience, “so obviously we want to give them characters that they can look at and see themselves or a sliver of themselves and get some representation for them. So yeah, like I said, it wasn’t necessarily a huge push for it but it was kind of ingrained in what we do, content for our women, yeah, for our subscribers.”

I was surprised she said that women were their target audience because when I looked around on Google, I didn’t see anything about that. As far as I knew, their target audience was African-Americans. I guess I learned something here! I felt a little stupid, though.

MC Lyte and Precious Way on "Partners in Rhyme" on ALLBLKI asked MC Lyte about working with Precious Way, who was on “Days of Our Lives” for a while and now plays her niece. I asked her if she saw Precious on Days. She thanked me for the question and said that Precious is also on another show where she plays Brandy’s daughter (that would be “Queens” on FOX). She said, “She’s super talented, bright-eyed, bushy-tailed, and excited about being in the business so it works out really well.” I pointed out that she seems like the character she plays on her show, “Partners in Rhyme.” She agrees that she is.

MC Lyte was also asked, by another reporter, about the change in rap over the years, since there are more women in it now. She pointed out that hip hop can open the door for artists to go into other fields, even though sometimes “there is a box sometimes that’s put around us” as well as people in the industry that can help you pursue those dreams. She went on to say that it makes sense for women to be rapping their own points of view…”And quite frankly hip hop wouldn’t be the same without the touch of a woman.”

She was also asked how she feels that being an influential rapper has improved her life. She seemed a little flummoxed by that question, but said that “hip hop has been a complete blessing for me through and through.” She thanked her mom for letting her become who she wanted to be, as well as pushing her and supporting her. She thinks that what she achieved is possible for anyone who can work hard. She also said, “But that’s just like all of the women, the creators that are here today. I’m sure that they have been told no at some point in their lives and it didn’t stop them. They continued on with the mission. And so I’m happy to be here amongst all the creators.”

Kaye Singleton produces the drama “Covenant,” which is an anthology show based on bible stories. She was asked how much religion was a part of her life, how she thought of the series, and did she try to shop it to other networks before coming to ALLBLK as well as asked to tell us how the show came about.

Singleton replied that she grew up in the church and since she’s been in Hollywood for 6 or 7 years, has wanted to do something like “Covenant.” She agreed that there was a lack of faith-based programming, and she wanted to make something that spoke to church-goers. She named some religious movies from the past and said that she wanted something that was more modern that younger people would like. She didn’t shop it to other networks. She said she went straight to ALLBLK with the idea. “And thankfully they were really, really receptive to it. And I think Nikki and Brett, that they saw the vision like I saw it. And so when I pitched that show along with the slew of other shows, I was surprised that that was the one — even though that was the one closest to my heart — that they chose it because sometimes it is a little hard trying to figure out how faith-based is going to look and feel in this secular world. But I think the way it’s posed, because it’s not scripture-heavy on the surface, it is really welcoming to all and not polarizing, it’ll appeal to all different kinds of crowds.”

Then Love was asked why she liked it so much. She agreed with Singleton that it was very different from other shows, being faith-based in a modern setting. “So there are a lot of stories that we don’t necessarily hear a lot about in the Bible. So to kind of shine a light on what it would look like today is great and we kind of stayed away from the typical like Noah and the Ark-type of stories. We had Kaye diving into that Bible and plucking out some stories like, ooh, this would be great and it totally applies to today. So it was just something different, something edgy, and told from a different point of view that we really, really gravitated towards.”

Singleton added that they tie in modern dilemmas, such as COVID, infertility and the Capitol insurrection, which is what makes it exciting.

The questions went back to MC Lyte about her show. She was asked about the raps in her show – who writes them and do the raps or the story come first?

She responded that she, Precious and the producers are all writers, and they have two other writers as well. They all write the raps. First they wrote the shows and raps, and then they recorded the songs before they filmed the shows. She added, “we looked at the different episodes and the storylines and said, “Okay, what is going to be most fitting for this area?” And so, we really strategically worked it out and was purposeful with every rhyme.”

She was asked to clarify if “the rhymes are written towards commenting on the episode in some way rather than having the rhymes and then structuring an episode around them?” She agreed with that. She gave an example of two songs that fit into the story but not into the storyline.

Another journalist called MC Lyte, “a hip hop icon and a female influencer in this space who has spent the past several years transitioning into film and TV,” which MC Lyte seemed flattered by. She was asked how the show represents or adds to her legacy.

MC Lyte says that it took her a long time to get to where she is. She feels that other rappers that came about at the same time as she did have already done sitcoms and then moved onto other things, but she’s just starting it. She had been in other sitcoms, but this is the first one where she’s the star. She spoke about those shows, “For Your Love” (1998-2002) and “Half and Half (2004-2006).” She enjoyed having fun on those shows. She felt it was time to do this show now. She wanted to commit to it and to give opportunities to others to be writers, actors, wardrobe and other production people on the show. It brings joy for her to see others “working in their super power…to me, it’s just an extension of being in hip hop.” Her objective is mainly to inspire, so however that works out, she’s happy about it. She likes to try different types of things. “There’s nothing that can stop me if I want to be a photographer one day, and then be an engineer the next, a music supervisor — which I’ve actually done, I spent four years doing not too long ago. For me, it’s just about really creating opportunities for other people. And in that legacy, my thing is to give. So, whatever I’m giving, I get it, then I give it back. So, you know, hip hop sisters, we give away scholarships to young people attending HBCUs. Our partnership is with Dillard University right now. And so I’m just earning money to put kids through school, honestly, part of the legacy.”

Maryam Basir as Lacey McCullough on "Lace" on ALLBLKThe panel was asked what they specifically bring to TV, as black women, that hasn’t been seen before. Love insisted that “Lace” creators Michelle Ebony Hardy and Katrina Y. Nelson talk about their shows first.

Nelson explained that they started their project in 2012, when there weren’t many black women in lead drama roles. Their lead is an attorney, and all of the cast is very diverse and beautiful. They wanted to see black women that weren’t portrayed as drug dealers or crackheads. They wanted to see women that were like them, such as businesswomen…”that as women, we get that moniker that we’re strong, but there are vulnerabilities to us, you know?”

Hardy echoed what she said, saying that viewers will get the chance “to see all the many different layers and personalities and experiences. And again, just being powerful, being intelligent, being beautiful, but also having vulnerabilities, being relatable.”

The last reporter said that he loves “rich and powerful soapy legal stuff” himself, but he wondered if people will want to see that now, since the general public doesn’t love the rich and powerful so much now. He asked if they were concerned that the viewers wouldn’t want to see the rich people “get away with bad stuff anymore.”

Hardy informed him that their character Lace has a lot of enemies, so there are many that won’t want to see her get away with anything. She concluded, “This will be an exciting series. You’ll see.”

Nelson chimed in that she’s a third generation soap opera viewer. She loves the soaps. “Right now, my mom and them, they’re here on vacation. But she’s got to watch her soaps every single day, right? It’s time. I don’t care if she’s on the East Coast or on the West Coast,” she chuckled. She pointed out that Lace may be rich and powerful, but she can also “get down and dirty. And so that’s one of the things that we’re talking about, is that there’s not just one way to be a woman. There’s not just one way to be Black. There’s not just one way for people. Like, you know, she can go in any world, whether it’s the rich and powerful elite, or she can go down in the gutter, into the dungeon. So, just keep watching and you’ll be able to see the diversity with all of our cast in the show.”


ALLBLK’s Developing and Creating While Black: Covenant, Partners in Rhyme, And Lace

Premiere Date: Fall 2021 

ALLBLK’s original programming slate is full of bold, unique and imaginative storytelling – from the thought-provoking and contemporary portrayal of classic biblical tales in the new anthology, Covenant, to the trials of an up-and-coming female high school rapper and social media sensation in the new sitcom, Partners in Rhyme, to a prolific Los Angeles attorney who often blurs the lines between right and wrong to protect her rich and powerful clientele in the new legal drama, Lace. The ALLBLK panel of talent and creatives discuss their hard-fought journeys to create high-quality scripted dramas featuring predominately Black cast and crew in Hollywood.


Kaye Singleton – Kaye Singleton is a full-time writer and actress born and raised in Central Florida. As an actress Dumplin with Jennifer Aniston, Claws, American Soul, Tales, and more. As a writer, to date she has won 3 screenwriting awards including Best Comedy Script (Archive Entertainment Screenplay Competition – Trap Queen), Best Comedy Teleplay (Content Creators of Atlanta Awards – The Check List), and Best Web Series (Content Creators of Atlanta Awards – Trap Queen). Kaye’s first foray as a writer/producer resulted in her short film, The Check List, which was an official selection and nominated in seven categories for 2019’s Black Women Film Network Short Film Festival, and the 2019 Bronze Lens Film Festival.

Katrina Y Nelson – Katrina Y. Nelson is a multitalented writer, director, comedian and award-winning producer. Nelson produced the web series The Enemy: The N in Me, Life Coach Chronicles (which won the Award of Merit at the Indie Fest), and Breaking Point (winner of the Outstanding Achievement Award – Best Ensemble Cast: Drama at the LA Web Fest), both in 2012. Her short and feature length film producing credits include: Always Remember, A Killer Surprise, Showrunner, and The Wake (which she wrote, produced and directed) Misogynist (winner of the Best Narrative Feature at the Los Angeles International Underground Film Festival in 2013), Past Impulse (which won the Best Dramatic Short Film Trinity International Film Festival in 2014), and Still (winner of the Audience Award – Best Film-at the Los Angeles International Underground Film Festival in 2017).

Michelle Ebony Hardy – Writer-Director-Producer, Michelle Ebony Hardy, is the creator of her most recent project, Lace. Hardy’s other credits include documentary short Game Changers: An Exclusive Look at Inclusion in Hollywood and short film Chump City.

Nikki Love – Nikki Love is a skilled producer and line producer specializing in the physical production of filmmaking from development to postproduction. She has produced festival and award-winning feature films, short films, web series and music videos. She creates tight budgets and has great crew and equipment at her disposal. Her specialty is making quality projects at reasonable costs. Putting her skills to use, she most recently signed on as VP of Development & Production for ALLBLK, the number one streaming service for black film & television. As the landscape continues to change for filmmakers, she continues to seek to push the envelope in producing innovative and creative content!

MC LYTE – a legend in the world of music and entertainment – is a pioneering artist and a formidable actress of television and film. Her most recent acting credits include a series regular on last year’s New York Undercover pilot (a reboot of the original Dick Wolf series), and she has recurred on S.W.A.T. (CBS), Power (Starz), and Queen of the South (USA). Lyte’s film roles include acclaimed Sundance Winner Patti Cakes, the Universal hit Girls Trip; Bad Hair, from Director Justin Simien; and the upcoming features Loved To Death, and Sylvie, with Tessa Thompson and Eva Longoria. Her newest venture has her taking on the role of show Creator & Executive Producer alongside Lynn Richardson & Bentley Evans for ALLBLK TV’s sitcom, “Partners In Rhyme.” Recently, MC Lyte made her directorial debut with a feature short film, Break Up In Love. MC LYTE is also an iconic Rapper and DJ. Her groundbreaking music career spans 30 years – this Hip Hop LEGEND was the first female rapper ever to be nominated for a Grammy Award, the first rap artist to perform at Carnegie Hall, and the first female artist to earn a gold single. A true leader in the music industry, MC LYTE has also performed at the Kennedy Center Honors and the White House for President Barack Obama. In addition to a busy on-screen career, MC Lyte has several television and film projects — both scripted and unscripted — in various stages of development. She serves as the CEO of Sunni Gyrl, Inc., a full-service entertainment management and production firm that provides executive leadership and customized strategies in the areas of celebrity/artist support, development and management; brand development and management; wealth maintenance; community affairs and outreach; and production / creative services. Her voice work is also well known and admired, representing dozens of Fortune 500 companies as well as being the voice of the BET Awards, Emmys, Grammys, Comcast, NBA, and the NAACP Image Awards. As an author, motivational speaker, and philanthropist, MC LYTE has written books and speaks globally on many inspiring topics from her vast knowledge of the entertainment and hip-hop industries, to entrepreneurialism and economic empowerment. Her charity, “Hip Hop Sisters Foundation,” has presented over $1,000,000 in scholarships.

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Y&R Transcript Wednesday, October 13, 2021

Young & The Restless Transcript

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Victoria: How dare you? How dare you bring that horrible man here?

Billy: Look, let me explain for a second, victoria Victoria: there is absolutely nothing that you can say that would justify you trying to hurt me this way.

Billy: Okay, let me explain, okay? Obviously gaines said something to you that got you very upset, and this is not the way I wanted you to find out about his past.

Victoria: I didn’t talk to gaines. And I don’t need to talk to gaines because I know the whole story.

Billy: I highly doubt that.

Ashland: I told her everything about the real ashland locke’s death, the fraudulent inheritance, all of it.

Victoria: This is exactly what you were hoping for — to find some deep, dark secret that was just gonna blow up my entire relationship.

Lily: I think billy just wanted you to know what you were getting into.

Victoria: Oh, please give me a break. If that were true, then you would be relieved right now that ashland confided in me. But look at you. You’re a shattered mess because you’re not the one that got to drop this bomb.

Billy: No, that’s not true, vick.

Victoria: You know how important this wedding is to me. Ashland’s in the middle of chemo. He is fighting so hard to make this a beautiful ceremony for me so that we can have cherished memories for the rest of our lives, billy. And you know what? You’re fighting to take it away. Why can you just not accept that I’ve moved on? For the love of god, just

[Sighs] Stop harassing us. And let me go!

Ashland: [ Sighs ]

[ Laughter ]

Summer: Oh, it is the perfect autumn night tonight.

Kyle: Oh, it sure is.

Phyllis: We seem to have misplaced your dad.

Kyle: Oh, he’s with harrison. They’ve lined up all the toy soldiers in his room, and there’s an epic battle going on now.

Nick: I bet the two of them are having more fun than the rest of us combined.

Noah: I think you’re probably right. I could tell in milan how much jack loves that kid.

Summer: Oh, yeah. No, he totally loves being a grandpa.

Phyllis: You’ve bonded with harrison, too.

Summer: Oh, my gosh, yes. No, he is such a doll. Honestly, whatever fears I had about being a stepmom have just completely gone away.

Phyllis: That’s great.

Kyle: Yeah, summer’s a natural at this whole parenting thing.

Summer: Oh, well, harrison’s so sweet, he makes it easy. I honestly cannot even imagine our life without him now.

Noah: No one’s worried about you not having room in your life for harrison. We’re more worried about you not having room in your closet for all the swag you’re bringing home from marchetti.

Summer: Oh! No, okay, I have a simple solution to that problem. See, I wear them once, and then I just give them away.

Noah: Wait. Seriously?

Summer: Oh, my gosh, no! No, I wouldn’t do that. You are so gullible.

Kyle: He’s right, though. We need to build more closets for all of our shoes.

Summer: You are lying.

Kyle: Mnh, it’s the truth.

Summer: No.

[ Laughter ]

Phyllis: Wait a second. Shoes are very, very important. They add to an outfit. Don’t discount shoes. Come on.

Summer: Yeah.

Phyllis: You know, especially when you work at marchetti.

Summer: Thank you. Thank you. See? There.

Phyllis: [ Chuckles ]

Summer: And, actually, speaking of closets being full, my glass is not full, so, um…

Kyle: Oh, um, me?

Summer: Yeah.

Kyle: Well, I have a solution for that.

Summer: Great, great.

[ Chuckles ]

Noah: Oh, wait for me.

Phyllis: You’re very quiet. Are you okay?

Nick: All good. Nothing to worry about.

Sally: [ Exhales sharply ] Wow, I was so confident the whole way over here. Now…I’m a little nervous.

Adam: What’s your next move?

Sally: [ Sighs ] I guess just…corner victoria somewhere and convince her to try on the dress.

Adam: You might want to rethink that. Victoria sees you first, that’s what she’s gonna react to, and you’re never gonna get to unzip that garment bag.

Sally: Well, I wish I had a friend I could persuade to make the pitch for me.

Adam: [ Sighs ] Maybe there’s another way to go about this.

Sally: Hey, if you have an idea, I’m all ears.

Adam: Come on. Let’s go. Ordinary tissues burn when theo blows.

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Billy: I hope you’re not letting the things victoria said get to you. There is nothing wrong with us trying to uncover the truth.

Lily: You — not “us.” And you took it a step way too far by bringing gaines here, to what victoria wanted to be a joyous, stress-free event.

Billy: Well, ashland kind of attacked my credibility. So I felt like I needed gaines here to tell victoria the truth because she wasn’t gonna believe it coming from me.

Lily: Because you thought ashland would lie, and you were wrong about him. Just admit it.

Billy: Yeah, I admit that i did not expect him to come clean about the multiple crimes that he has committed.

Lily: You did the same thing with me when we fell in love. You told me everything that you had done that you were ashamed of. So maybe not everything ashland does is cold and calculated. Maybe he actually loves her and what they have is real. But you don’t like hearing me say that, do you?

Elena: So, we heard you’re performing at the ceremony.

Tessa: Yes! I am so excited. Ah, this place — I mean, it blows me away. Everywhere you look, it’s just more beautiful.

Nate: Mm. You will love the view from the terrace in the morning.

Tessa: I’m so excited.

Nate: So, where’s mariah?

Elena: Yeah. Is she resting after the flight?

Tessa: Well, mariah’s not here. She decided not to come.

Kevin: Your timing is perfect. I was due for a break, and i believe you’ve heard me talk about how awful the coffee is at the station.

Mariah: Mm-hmm. In grisly detail.

Kevin: [ Chuckles ] Anyway, it’s gonna be great to catch up.

Mariah: Definitely.

Kevin: So, how’s everything going being back at work?

Mariah: Uh, it’s good, you know? I was a little nervous about interacting with a lot of people again, but everybody at jabot has been amazing about the whole situation. It almost feels like normal.

Kevin: That’s awesome. Well, it’s too bad you couldn’t take off a few more days to go to italy with tessa.

Mariah: Well, I could have. I planned to, actually, but then the baby got sick.

Kevin: Oh, no. Poor guy. Is he gonna be okay?

Mariah: Yeah. It’s nothing serious. I mean, it’s just a cold.

Kevin: Oh. Well, then why couldn’t you go with tessa?

Kyle: Hmm?

Summer: [ Chuckling ] No, i can’t do that. Hey! How’d the battle go?

Jack: The good guys won.

Kyle: Hurrah!

Jack: Harrison’s yawning like crazy, but he insists on a story before he goes to sleep.

Summer: Ah. Well, sounds like you’re being paged, daddy.

Kyle: Come with me?

Summer: Yeah, sure.

Kyle: Alright. We’ll be back.

Jack: See you around.

Noah: Any progress with aunt victoria? Where do thing stand? It seemed like it was a little less tense between you two earlier.

Nick: Yeah. Decided to stick around, do what she asked me to do, which is just give her some space. Hopefully she cools off.

Phyllis: With whatever’s going on with her, I think it has very little to do with you. You know, there’s a million things going on. You know, the wedding, ashland’s health, the newman/locke scenario. I mean, it’s just kind of landing on you, you know?

Nick: Yeah. Well, let’s just try and get through it on our best behavior.

Phyllis: And by “let’s,” you mean me, right? Why wouldn’t I be on my best behavior?

Nick: [ Chuckles ] Right.

Noah: I wonder where ashland and aunt victoria are.

Phyllis: Yeah. We haven’t seen them in a while.

[ Clears throat ]

Victoria: I was so supportive of billy when he moved in with lily.

[ Sighs ] I even bought him a damn houseplant. And this is how he reacts when i want to move on with my life.

Ashland: Sweetheart, you know my theory. Billy is still in love with you.

Victoria: Please don’t go there.

Ashland: What else could this be about?

Victoria: His enormous ego. Look, even if you’re right, what exactly does he expect to accomplish with this stunt? I’m telling you, I will never trust that man again.

Ashland: Billy is not our problem right now. Gaines is. I suspect that his end game is just to humiliate me publicly to feel like he’s had the last laugh.

Victoria: Well, we need to find them, and we need to have security throw them out.

Ashland: Okay, okay. Easy, easy. Leave that up to me, okay?

[ Door opens and closes ] (Drill sergeant) what a pleasant morning. It’s warm, but not too warm.

Mariah: Abby was talking about weaning dominic while i was gone, and I just thought that it was too soon, you know, especially since he wasn’t feeling well. And breast milk is supposed to be amazing for the baby’s immune system. I mean, I know he would have been fine either way.

Kevin: Well, it makes perfect sense that you would feel protective of him.

Mariah: Thank you for understanding.

Kevin: Come on, mariah. Of course. I have a baby, you know? Your whole perspective changes. Nothing’s more important than making sure they have everything they need.

Mariah: But dominic isn’t my baby.

Kevin: No, but you went through a lot together, which i can relate to, given everything I went through as a kid.

Mariah: I remember the stories.

Kevin: I know what it’s like to be locked in a small space for a very long period of time. And I know it’s not the same circumstances, and I don’t mean to pry, but if it would help you to talk about it…

Mariah: I’m doing okay with that aspect of it, you know, the trauma. I — I get a little jumpy if i hear footsteps behind me, and I don’t like too much quiet or being alone for too long. But I’m doing okay, you know? I can function.

Kevin: I’m glad to hear that.

Mariah: But I — I want to hear about you. How are bella and miles doing?

Kevin: [ Sighs ] You want me to brag about my kids?

Mariah: Yes.

Kevin: I’m in.

Mariah: [ Laughs ]

Kevin: Okay.

Billy: [ Sighs ] I don’t have a hidden agenda. I know victoria’s trying to push that because she’s in denial about how serious ashland’s crimes are.

Lily: Maybe it’s because they happened 40 years ago and she doesn’t think they’re relevant to the person she knows now.

Billy: Or maybe there’s another reason why she’s trying to protect him. Maybe it has to do with the merger. It’s the biggest accomplishment of her professional life, and she doesn’t want it to fall apart. I wouldn’t put it past her father pressuring her into it, either.

Lily: Billy, it does not matter why victoria is standing by ashland. She is, okay? So, your big plan to expose him has backfired.

Billy: Well, it might look that way on the surface. You saw her. You saw how defensive she was. Ashland’s crimes bother her, and they should because the guy is a liar and a criminal.

Lily: Billy, I need you to listen to me, okay? The wedding is happening tomorrow, whether you like it or not. And that is victoria’s choice to make.

Billy: So, what do you want me to do? You want me to just drop it, let her make a mistake?

Lily: Honestly, I think that maybe we shouldn’t even be here.

Nikki: Here’s someone you will want to meet. Leslie brooks, tessa porter.

Tessa: Oh, my gosh, hi!

Leslie: Oh, it’s so great to meet you!

Tessa: Yes, it’s so great to meet you in person finally. Oh, we’ve been video-chatting about what song we’re gonna do at the ceremony, yeah.

Victor: I can hardly wait.

Leslie: I’m so looking forward to performing with you.

Tessa: Oh, trust me — I am the one who’s excited.

Nikki: Now, I know you’ve been traveling all day and are very tired, but if the two of you want to go over some songs and get comfortable with each other, you’re more than welcome.

Leslie: Excellent. Do you know any standards?

Tessa: Jazz? Absolutely.

Leslie: [ Chuckles ] And I do take requests.

Nikki: Oh, well, now that you mention it, I might have a few favorites to suggest.

Victor: There you go.

[ Sighs ]

Adam: Hey, pop.

Victor: Hey, my boy! So glad you came. My goodness. Adam. Well, look at this. The three generations together. Let’s have a drink. Come on. Sit down.

Adam: Sure, dad. Noah. Oh, great job on the, uh, newman media branding package, by the way.

Noah: How’s it going, adam?

Adam: Fine. You?

Noah: Doing okay. Thanks for asking.

Victor: You know, I really appreciate that you all made the effort to come here and join us. And I really appreciate the fact that you’re trying to get along, you know?

Adam: Eh, nick — he’s not that bad.

Nick: I guess I can deal with him.

[ “Finally” plays ]

Your love gets in the way

of the bad things people say

my feet were broken and bleedin’

you washed my sins away

my heart needed dreamin’


I found somethin’ strong and steady

I know I’m ready

for someone like you


I’m runnin’ to someone great

who wants me to feel safe



this affair

Victoria: [ Sighs ] Damn you, billy.

Tessa: Is definitely worth keepin’

Victoria: I am not gonna let you ruin this night for me.

Tessa: Dancin’ like little kids

up on the ceiling

who knows where we are going

the road might be steep ahead

but you’ll always have my hand


I found somethin’ strong and steady

I know I’m ready for someone like you


I’m runnin’ to someone great

who wants me to feel safe


finally what can I du with less asthma?

Victoria: That’s odd.

[ Door closes ]

Sally: [ Sighs heavily ]

Lily: I mean, everyone is doing their best to cheer on ashland and victoria, and if we can’t join them, we shouldn’t be here. You know, the kids can fly home with victor and nikki.

Billy: That’s not necessary. Look, I am not going to apologize for trying to uncover the truth. And I really don’t think ashland deserves a bunch of credit because he came clean after feeling the pressure of somebody investigating him.

Lily: Then take all the credit, billy. It doesn’t change anything. She’s still gonna marry ashland tomorrow.

Billy: So, that’s it? Okay. I won’t intervene. I’ll find gaines and send him on his way.

Lily: Simple as that, huh?

Billy: No, honestly, it’s not gonna be that simple. Gaines has wanted his revenge on ashland for a very long time. So I’m gonna throw some more money at him and give him a first-class ticket out of here.

Lily: And what about the wedding?

Billy: I think we should go. The most important thing right now is johnny and katie see that their parents support each other. And victoria is gonna need some help when ashland’s health starts to deteriorate. And I would like her to know that she can count on me.

Lily: That’s quite an attitude shift. I’m impressed.

Billy: I hope you realize this whole time I was just trying to do the right thing. Victoria has been hurt a lot in her life, mostly by me.

Lily: I know it’s your way of making amends, in your own antagonistic way.

Billy: I hope you are not questioning my commitment to you. I love you. Which is another reason why we should go to that wedding — so you can see with your own eyes that I am not hung up on my ex. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Lily: [ Chuckles ] Billy, I know that you’re a passionate man. And I know that you’ll go to extremes to take care of the people that you love. And even though it’s exhausting, it’s also very endearing.

Billy: I was hoping you were gonna say something more along the lines of “hot and sexy.”

Lily: Oh, well, I mean, that goes without saying.

[ Chuckles ]

Adam: Enjoying your evening?

Elena: Yeah. Very much so. You?

Adam: Ah. What’s not to like, right?

Nate: One of the loveliest homes I’ve ever seen, complete with a private concert by a world-renowned artist? There’s not a lot that can top it.

Elena: Hey, did you ever get in touch with billy after you guys missed each other at society?

Adam: Uh, I ended up tracking him down before I left genoa city. But the, uh, conversation didn’t go as well as I hoped, so i should probably steer clear of him while we’re here.

Nate: Well, given the size of this place, that shouldn’t be an issue.

Phyllis: Look at this guy. Look — he has the audacity to show up.

Jack: I’m sure victor’s glad he did.

Phyllis: Amazing. Does it bother you at all, what he’s done to his family? Like, at all?

Jack: Wh–

Phyllis: [ Sighs ] I mean, victoria’s fine with him, but she’s treating nick like he’s the gate crasher. Seriously. This family.

[ Sighs ] They drive me crazy. Have I told you how crazy they drive me? Have I ever told you?

Jack: Uh, yeah, once or twice, yeah. Um…let it go. This will be over soon.

Phyllis: Not soon enough.

Nikki: So beautiful.

Tessa: Oh, thank you.

Nikki: Oh, my goodness.

Tessa: Thank you.

Victoria: Thank you so much, both of you, for your serenade together. You sound so beautiful.

Tessa: Oh, thank you.

Nikki: Well, they were just about to grace us with another song.

Leslie: Shall we?

[ “You’re the best thing” plays ]

Tessa: You’re the best thing

that’s happened to me

the key to my heart

you’re the best thing

that’s happened to me

I knew from the start

Victor: Hi, my sweetheart. Hi, my sweetheart.

Tessa: We complement each other

Victor: Everything alright?

Victoria: [ Sighs ]

Victor: What?

Tessa: Like sister and brother

like hops and malt

sugar and salt

fall and spring

yang and ying feeling stressed in your skin?

“The young and the restless”

will continue.

Phyllis: Hey, did you have another run-in with victoria?

Nick: She doesn’t want to deal with me, which is fine. I don’t want to make this situation about myself.

Phyllis: Alright. Well, she’s gonna come around. And she is going to owe you the biggest apology.

Nick: [ Sighs ] I know you don’t like my sister, but it’s not helping when you’re exploiting this.

Phyllis: Okay, well, I’m not exploiting anything. That’s not what I’m doing. I’m sympathizing with you.

Nick: I don’t see it like that.

Phyllis: Oh. Alright.

Jack: Hey. Let it roll off your back. Don’t take that personally. He’s upset right now.

Phyllis: That’s o– doesn’t make it any better.

Kevin: Oh, I mean, thank god for esther, right? Two kids, two jobs. I don’t know how we would make it work without her. And now that miles is walking, I mean, look out, world.

Mariah: Yeah, yeah, I guess he is that age, which means i missed his first birthday. Sorry.

Kevin: You don’t have to apologize. “A,” you were otherwise occupied, and, “b,” miles is very easygoing. He doesn’t hold grudges. You know, besides, birthday parties for babies are kind of pointless. They have no idea what’s going on. It’s really just all about the parents. So, my advice — if you and tessa decide to have kids, don’t even invite the babies. They just get in the way.

Mariah: And thank you for not sneaking in a “party-poopers” pun — because I could see it, and it was just right there.

Kevin: It was really hard. But I’m a classy guy.

[ Cellphone ringing ]

Mariah: Oh. Hey! Tessa! Yeah. Hi. What time is it in europe? Oh, my gosh.

Tessa: It’s pretty late.

Mariah: How is everything going? Are you — are you jet-lagged? Are you feeling okay?

Tessa: Well, I, uh, slept on the plane, and, boy, am I glad that I did because this place is just so over the top. And I mean that in the best way. It’s just like — it’s something out of a magazine. Everyone’s, um, asking about you and sending their love. Oh, and I got to meet leslie brooks. Oh, she is so cool and funny. We got to rehearse, and she’s just really down to earth, and I’m just —

Mariah: Tessa, all of that, uh, sounds amazing, and I wish i could talk right now, but, um, I barely slept last night and I’m in zombie mode and buried in work and, um — we’ll catch up later, okay?

Tessa: Oh, yeah. Sure. Of course. I love you.

Mariah: Me too. Bye.

[ Mug thuds ]

Noah: Hi.

Tessa: Well, hi yourself.

Noah: You know, until i walked in before and saw you, I — I don’t think I realized how much I’ve missed you.

Sally: Okay. Mission accomplished. Or, at least, the first phase. Now we just wait and see how the bride reacts.

Adam: I really hope you are managing your expectations.

Sally: I designed that dress specifically to suit victoria’s taste and figure, so I have to believe that she’s gonna love it, at which point I will move in and make my final sales pitch.

Adam: You know, I really do hope this works out for you, sally.

Sally: Everything’s riding on this.

Summer: Oh, my gosh, you should have seen it. When I came back with water for harrison, the butler was in there trying to teach him how to pronounce “arrivederci,” and harrison kept saying “bless you,” thinking that he was sneezing every time.

Kyle: [ Laughing ] Please tell me you got it on video.

Summer: No, I didn’t, and i am kicking myself ’cause it was so cute. Oh, gosh.

Adam: Congratulations. How was the wedding?

Summer: [ Scoffs ] What is she doing here?

Adam: Sally’s my date. On the outside, I looked fine.

Jack: Wait. Adam actually said that sally is here as his date?

Summer: Mm-hmm. It’s a bit tacky, if you ask me.

Phyllis: Yeah, well, it is tacky, but, you know, it’s adam. He showed up with sally on his arm to the newman media launch party. Why would he not do the same here? Of course he brought her.

Kyle: Think victoria knew he was planning this?

Jack: No, I don’t think so.

Summer: You know, I doubt grandpa knew, either, because there’s no way he would want her here after the way that she treated me.

Kyle: If it’s really bugging you that much, just say the word. I’m sure victor will have her bounced.

Phyllis: Yeah, sounds like a plan. Let’s do that.

Summer: That woman is not worth the attention that we’ve already given her, so let’s not give sally the satisfaction of knowing that she’s gotten under our skin, okay?

Jack: I think your daughter has the right idea. You should do the same thing. Stay away from sally and any ice buckets you happen to see.

Phyllis: Oh, you know what? I think you have that the other way around. Sally should stay away from me.

Adam: You really enjoy riling people up, don’t you?

Sally: Everyone needs a hobby. Still, probably would be a good time for me to slip away to my room. Hopefully if your family decides to give me the boot, they won’t roust me out of bed to do it.

Adam: Mm. Well, I wouldn’t sweat it. My father and victoria have more important things to worry about.

Sally: I’m sure you’re right. Anyway, good night. Sleep well.

Adam: You too.

Victor: Yes, ashland?

Ashland: [ Whispering indistinctly ]

Kevin: Should we pretend i didn’t just hear you blowing off your girlfriend? Or do you want to talk about it? Or do you want to pretend that i didn’t even ask that question?

Mariah: It’s fine. Thank you for being willing to listen. And maybe someday I will take you up on that. But for now, I really — I just want to hear about the kids. Is bella still taking dance lessons?

Kevin: Yes. She just had a recital. Mad hatter’s tea party. All of these kids in in these elaborately adorable costumes.

Mariah: What was she dressed as?

Kevin: She was the dormouse! You know, cute pink nose and whiskers.

[ Laughing ] But, oh, there was this other little girl who was dressed as a sugar cube.

Mariah: [ Laughing ] Okay. What’s so funny?

Kevin: No, I mean, she was, like, this giant sugar cube, okay, with this tiny little girl inside. So, she’s dancing and all of a sudden she loses her balance and she falls onto her back, okay? So, all the other kids still keep dancing, and this girl is, like, flailing her arms and legs. Oh, my gosh, we laughed.

[ Both laugh ]

Tessa: So… how’s london? How’s the photography going?

Noah: It’s really well, actually. It’s almost more work than I can handle.

Tessa: Noah, that’s great.

Noah: Yeah. And I got three corporate commissions waiting for me when I get back.

Tessa: Well, here you are, making art for a living, and I’m singing for a living. I mean, how crazy is that? We can both say that we’re living the dream without being ironic.

Noah: Yeah, I hadn’t really thought about it that way, but you’re right. Although I think you may have been a little bit smarter than me in choosing which dream to pursue.

Tessa: Why would you say that? I thought you loved art.

Noah: No, I do, and I’m really happy to be in a field where I can be creative, but… you know, when people pay to hear you sing, it’s because they love your music. You know, they feel it in their soul. The art world is just… it’s just different.

Tessa: Well, how?

Noah: You know, a lot of it comes down to investment value. So there are people who buy my pieces because they intend to flip it, you know, like it’s a condo in west palm beach.

Tessa: Well, that sounds pretty cynical.

Noah: I understand the mentality. I come from a business background, but, yeah, it can be a little discouraging. You know, one time I actually had a client who offered to pay me to produce less. That way, the value in the pieces he already owned would go up. Supply and demand.

[ Both laugh ]

Tessa: Wow. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. That’s just really nuts.

Noah: It’s the nature of the beast, I guess.

Tessa: Well, if it makes you feel better, I don’t think a music career would be very different for you.

Noah: Oh, you mean people would pay me not to sing?

Tessa: [ Laughing ] No, no, that’s not what I meant.

Noah: No, I know. I know. Music’s commercial, too.

Tessa: Yes.

Noah: I’m just giving you a hard time.

Tessa: Yeah, you’re good at that.

Noah: But is it a career track? That’s the real question.

Tessa: Uh…stand-up comic? Working the club circuit? Well, I do think you have to be funny to do that, and you’re painfully serious, like, all of the time.

Noah: Yeah, you know, borderline boring.

Tessa: Ugh. A real snore.

[ Both laugh ]

Victor: I’m very happy to hear that victoria put billy boy in his place. Now we have to be concerned about gaines.

Ashland: It’s not gonna be that easy to get rid of him. It’s not the money at this point. He’s got a score to settle.

Victor: I don’t want you to worry about that. I’ll take care of it, okay?

Ashland: Look, even if we can keep gaines away from the wedding, he can still do damage to newman/locke, to the firm’s reputation.

Victor: It’s not gonna happen. Are you tired of clean clothes that just don’t smell clean?

Elena: I know it’s late, but it’s heavenly out here.

Nate: Mmm.

Elena: And tomorrow it’s gonna be hectic and full of people.

Nate: Mm.

Elena: And you’re gonna be busy helping ashland. But tonight you’re all mine.

Nate: Mmm. I like the sound of that.

[ Soft, romantic piano music plays ]

Elena: Just when you thought it couldn’t get better.

Nate: It still can.

Elena: Mmm.

Lily: We never made it to the party.

Billy: [ Chuckles ] You distracted me.

Lily: [ Chuckles ] Well, we definitely had more fun up here.

Billy: Mm-hmm.

Lily: And now we can enjoy the festivities. So I’m glad we didn’t leave.

Billy: ‘Cause of the beautiful music?

Lily: Well, I mean, it doesn’t suck.

[ Both chuckle ]

Lily: But seriously, I’m really happy that you’re able to see where you’ve gotten off track. I really admire your ability to course-correct. Not everyone can do that.

Billy: Is there anything else you admire about me?

Lily: [ Whispering indistinctly ]

Billy: I’ll take it.

Phyllis: Oh, good night, you two.

Elena: Night, night.

Nate: We’ll see you in the morning.

Phyllis: Okay. Is this seat reserved, or can anybody sit here?

Nick: I’m sorry I snapped at you. None of this is your fault.

Phyllis: That’s for sure. You know, it’s hard for me to hang out with your family. They don’t like me or trust me, and I feel the same way about them. But I do this for you. I’m here for you.

Nick: I was out of line. Won’t happen again.

Phyllis: I almost forgive you.

Nick: You gonna make me work for it?

Phyllis: Mm-hmm. I am.

Nikki: You haven’t seen victor, have you?

[ Door opens ]

Victoria: [ Chuckles ] Where were you?

Ashland: Victor and I briefed the security team, and they are on top of the situation. They will find gaines, and they will remove him.

Victoria: Well, I’m just glad that we found out what billy was up to in time to put a stop to it.

[ Inhales deeply ] I just hope that everything will go smoothly for our wedding.

Ashland: There will be no more interruptions, and that’s a promise. And by this time tomorrow, you and I… will be husband and wife.

Victoria: [ Laughs ]

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[ Grunts ] My cousin jason. What’s up? You want in on this? No, I’ll wait till you’re finished. Okay. So, there’s this brand-new theory in economics where the assets and services are divvied up equally among private individuals so that no one consumer has to bear the undue burden of cost. It’s a theory perfected by kindergartners, and it’s called “sharing.” And I realized that that is a concept foreign to you quartermaines. But you’re not really one of them, are you? You’re avoiding my calls, anna, and my texts. I can only assume it’s because you haven’t found peter or my mother. You know, here’s a novel idea — how about you put aside your personal feelings and act like a professional? My mother was abducted, either by someone with ties to peter or peter himself. And that means it is your job — no, it is your duty — to find her.

[ Sighs ] Britt, I really need your help. Dr. Gatlin-holt has crossed the line. Something has to be done about him. You got this, girl.

[ Breathes sharply ] Olivia: This all looks in order. Yep. What am I missing? Nothing. It’s a lease renewal. Yeah, for the crimson offices.

[ Light clattering ] Careful, honey. Oh, he’s okay. Yeah, crimson’s yearly lease renewal is up. And you’re not even going to raise the rent? Why should I? Crimson pays their bills on time. I have no complaints. Um, except that the editor-in-chief kept sonny away from you and his family for — for — what — w-was it nine months? I mean, I know nina says that he was happy. That’s hardly the point. And besides, I don’t buy it. Sonny is a city boy born and bred. He — he might enjoy the countryside for an afternoon, maybe a long weekend, tops. But tending bar and sweeping the floor for nine months? No, I don’t buy it. I’m aware. Yeah. And this is your first chance to get back at her. You’re really not going to take a swing at nina? Are you here on carly’s behalf? Why would you think that? Well, it’s just

crimson’s lease is up. So maybe I thought you were delivering a message from your wife — vacate the premises or else. I mean…

[ Scoffs ] Carly’s business is none of mine. Despite living in the same city, traveling around in the same circles, even sharing a grandchild… I guess I really don’t know you. You’re about to. Is that a threat?

Hi, ava. Hi. Okay, so, I’m gonna have a martini, and I’m going to put it on your tab. You can have a whole pitcher of martinis if you came through for me. Mm. It’s done. I, uh, pulled your divorce papers…

[ Sighs ] …Before they got to the clerk so you and nikolas can live in wedded bliss. And more’s the pity. Wait, weren’t you just fighting for us to save our marriage? Well, that was before I found out that nikolas’ son was stalking you. So, ava, you know, you might want to hang on to those divorce papers. Now, I hate to disappoint you, but nikolas and I destroyed our copies the other night. Well, then, I say goodbye to our business relationship. What? No. Scott, I’ll always need you.

[ Sighs ] I’ll always have… legal problems for you.

[ Chuckles ] Well, you know what? I’m really trying to find liesl. And now, I’ve taken on nina reeves as a client, so I don’t know if I’ve got a lot of time for your little squabbles. Um… nina needs a lawyer? And a bulletproof pantsuit. If you have to ask… …it’s not a threat. I’ll remember that. So, crimson is just humming along, huh? Yeah. I have a great staff. They kept the office running during my…s-sabbatical. So I take it you’re not here to inquire about a subscription. You and I have a few things to discuss. Really? Yeah. I didn’t think you left anything unsaid when we ran into each other at the cemetery. Yeah, uh… yeah, I did, but then you surprised me. How so? You showed up at the quartermaines’. Carly saw you. You were visiting wiley. That didn’t make her happy. Oh, and you think that I’m afraid of carly? I thought you knew me better than that. You know, uh… you’re not going to be happy in port charles for very long. Ar e you telling meto get out of town? Rumor has it you don’t want anything to do with elq at all. You designated all of your voting shares to michael. You don’t participate in any of the family business meetings. You want me to hold the bag for you? No. Okay, clearly chitchat isn’t going to get me anywhere with you, and yet, here I am, willing to hold your bag.

[ Indistinct conversations in distance ] Think of it as an opportunity to suss me out face to face. Who’s gonna give that up? Yes? No? Okay. Anna, [Sighs] Just — just call me whether you have news or not, okay? Leaving me to twist like this is — it’s not only unprofessional — it’s cruel. And that is not your reputation, okay? So please just call me! Oh! Oh, oh! I’m so sorry! Geez! Hi, britt.

[ Clears throat lightly ]

[ Sighs ] Something wrong? No, everything is good. I mean, it’s not, but I know you’re really busy. I don’t want to bother you. No, no, please bother me. I-I could use the distraction. What’s your problem? It’s not my problem. It’s leo’S. These are expired. Oh, okay. I will get rid of those. Thank you so much, leo. Thank you. There we go. Carly, what nina did was some serious old testament-level violation. I mean, you — you are well within your rights to exact your pound of flesh. I’m just trying so hard to not go to war with nina. But she already fired the first shots. Yes, and if I fire back, I make nina out to be the victim. I mean, just imagine carly, the vindictive witch going after the poor woman who just made a mistake. Are you kidding me? Mistake my as…ton-martin. Hey, sonny asked me to lay off. Oh. What, and you’re just prepared to do that? To — to — to renew their lease and not kick nina out of the building? I can’t begin to tell you what I want to do to nina. And, see, that’s what I’m talking about. I know you. What are you planning?

Nina knew sonny was alive all along? Have you been living on the moon? I mean, everybody in this world knows that. I-I just saw sonny the other day. I went to say goodbye to avery when I-I thought I was leaving town, and he didn’t say anything about nina. No, maybe he didn’t want to, you know, distract with everything that’s going on with your stalker and all that…stuff. He didn’t, you know, lay anything more on you, but, you know… aren’t you and nina like buddy buddies? Yeah, we’re friends, but sonny’s not the type to spare my feelings. Nina took a big risk finding sonny in a small-town joint and then keeping quiet and messing with carly. Well, carly can drive otherwise reasonable people to do things they wouldn’t ordinarily do. Yeah, well, I’m kind of sorry that nina got found out. I mean, jason and carly would still be newlyweds. Sonny would be dead and buried, and good guy mike could just live on in his place. I’m sorry. D-did you say “mike”? Yeah. Mike. Schmike. Who cares? It — it — it’s — it’s just a name. Port charles could be a sonny-free place. Let’s move on to a happier topic, okay? Like your new man, and why don’t you tell me the real reason you don’t want him to move here or at least come for a visit? I’m not saying that we don’t have a mob problem here, but the whole thing of, you know, the “godfather with a heart of gold,” we — we can do with– okay, scott, you know what? I gotta — I gotta go. Have as many martinis as you want. Okay? Bye. Oh, ava, hang on. Make sure you tell nina I’m top notch!

[ Sighs ] Sonny: You know what, nina? You can do whatever you want. You want to stay, you want to go — it’s up to you. I don’t need your permission. Okay, fine. But I-I just want to let you know that it may not be comfortable for you here. When has my life ever been comfortable? My mind won’t let me be too comfortable. Now I have carly, michael, and josslyn just waiting in line to tell me exactly how they feel about me. Well, they have every right. I mean, josslyn watched her mother struggle taking care of my business. Michael saw you lying to his face every time you went to visit wiley. And carly, she grieved for me for nine months. I’m not dead. Okay, I get it — I am a pariah. I deserve to be. But I admit that I am not crazy about hearing a litany of my sins every time I leave my house, and I’m even less crazy about starting over. I tried that already. Look where it got me. So you’re gonna s– you’re gonna stay in port — yeah. I’m going to stay where maxie is and james and my grandchild. Then you got to understand the ground rules. What are you planning for nina? This desk is a mess. Honey, that’s not nice.

[ Chuckling ] Oh, you know what? It has been a crazy morning, leo.

[ Sighs ] Yeah, but still, the kid’s got no filter. Where does he get that from? Uh, yeah. But, honey, not everybody keeps every colored pencil and every eraser in its own separate spot. I’m sorry, leo. Usually I’m much more organized. If it wasn’t for me taking up all your time, you would be ready to focus. Come on, honey. We don’t want to be late for dr. Diamond. Leo’s pediatrician. Oh. Is everything okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah, just — just regular kid stuff. Can I have that? No! You know what? It’s pretty, isn’t it?

[ Sighs ] So pretty. And you know what? You can have it. You know why? You cleaned up my desk. So it’s all yours. What do you say, honey? Thank you, aunt carly. You’re welcome. You’re welcome. Yes. Thank you, aunt carly.

[ Laughs ] What are you planning for crimson? Oh, I’m definitely renewing their lease. I’m keeping nina close so I can keep an eye on her. You’re really, really good at this. Wow, seriously. Did you take lessons? Or is it just kind of baked into your dna to beat on things? Wow. I’m asking because it’s not baked into mine, and yet we do share a lot of dna. So, there’s this phenomenon in medicine called “boxer’s knuckles.” You got to look out for that. Have you experienced any swelling around your knuckles?

[ Breathes sharply ] Are you done punching? Can’t concentrate. Right. I mean, I imagine you have quite a bit on your mind. Your new wife’s recently deceased husband alive again… showing up on your wedding night. That must’ve been a crowded honeymoon.

[ Chuckles ] You ever stop talking? Just trying to be supportive. We are cousins, and I thought, at this moment in time, we could both use a f-friendly ear. Yeah, well, you have a lot of friendly ears — your mother, charity, your brother, jonah, your med school mentor. I’m flattered. That’s quite a deep dive to protect the family that you go to great pains to steer clear of. I steer clear of elq, not my family. I had you pegged as a guy who would choose his own family rather than just put up with the one that he was born into. And yet, at this moment in time, I’d imagine you can’t count on the family you chose either, can you? Oh, yes. Um, leo, yes, olivia falconeri’s son. Yeah, he’s my stepbrother. Oh. Are you two close? Uh, well, olivia was going through some stuff with julian — that’s leo’s dad — when he was a baby, and I, um, I took care of him. So since I’ve been back in port charles, we’ve been getting to know each other again. Such a rad little dude.

[ Chuckles ] So what’s the problem? Would what I tell you be covered under doctor-patient confidentiality? I-I know, technically, I’m not your patient. Well, uh, technically, you are. I treated you last spring when valentin brought you in for a sonogram. Okay, good. So, someone in this hospital suggested that leo has a behavioral issue. Now, my father is all about getting it checked out. But olivia — not so much. So there’s a lot of tension in the house right now, just when their marriage was getting back on track. And what sort of behavioral issue is leo having? Autism…or at least on the spectrum. Has he been examined? Was olivia given a reference for a pediatric neurologist? I don’t really know. I-I’m not sure. All I know is austin thinks that leo might be autistic. Dr. Gatlin-holt — he said this? To olivia? Ned? To me. Is that a problem?

[ Scoffs ] I suspect you knew that.

Things must be reallyup in the air with your new wife now that her dead husband is alive again. You got to have patients waiting for you, right? Actually, no. I don’t have to be at G.H. Until later this evening. You want to get a beer? Whatever you want from me, you’re not getting it. You don’t want to be friends? You know, we don’t have to be adversaries. No, we don’T. If you drop your lawsuit against the quartermaines. I would love nothing more than to resolve my conflict with the quartermaines amicably, but… I get nothing from them. Zero. They’ve iced me out. They don’t talk to me. They don’t even relate to me on a person-to-person level. I’m trying to meet a medical obligation with leo, and olivia keeps looking at me like I’m working some kind of an angle. Well, are you? At the risk of repeating myself, all I want to do is get my father the recognition that he was denied, and that may not mean anything to you, jason, but it might if you were the guy who sat at his father’s deathbed while he was grasping for his last breaths. The last word he said on this earth was, “why did edward shut me out?” Look, jason… even if I do win this lawsuit against the quartermaines and get the juicy satisfaction of a few elq voting shares, it’s not like the qs are going to welcome me into the family with open arms, and, by extension, jimmy lee. Then why bother? I-I’m not sure what you mean. Oh, really? Don’t play a player, brook lynn, okay? That — the fake “bump into,” establishing doctor-patient confidentiality, then bringing up a situation where one of my doctors breaks it. A doctor that just so happens to be locked in litigation with your family. You knew about that? Yeah. Austin is the son of edward quartermaine’s illegitimate son, jimmy lee holt. Edward wrote poor old jimmy lee out of the will, and now austin’s in court trying to write himself back in. Impressive. Not really. You know, the quartermaine squabble is the go-to gossip in the staff room.

[ Sighs ] Okay. Still, austin definitely crossed a line. Yes, you’re right. He did. Dr. Gatlin-holt had no business discussing or making a diagnosis regarding someone he doesn’t have the expertise to examine. So, when and where did he say leo was autistic? It was at G.H., Actually, this morning. Were there any witnesses? Chase and maxie were nearby, but they weren’t a part of the conversation. Okay, would you be willing to give your account to a disciplinary board?

[ Chuckles ] Why am I even asking? Of course you’d be willing. This is the point of the conversation. So what are you going to do about austin? Okay, let me do my job. And in turn, you take care of leo, because if austin thinks he might be on the spectrum, I’m inclined to believe him.

[ Sighs ] Oh, hi. Hey. Am I interrupting? No. What can I do for you, ava? I assume sonny told you. Spencer is your stalker? Yeah. Wow. I’m sorry about that. And just so you know, spencer and his girlfriend were asked to leave my hotel this morning. Wow, you surprise me. Why is that? I just thought that you would forgive spencer’s transgressions. Because you were the target. Okay, well, look, spencer has every right to have a chip on his shoulder. He has no right to go after avery. That’s totally unacceptable. I agree. I agree completely. And now that I am no longer in fear for my life — or avery’s — and I’m not going anywhere, I was hoping that we could revisit avery’s custody arrangement. So there’s rules if I stay in town? Why do you seem so surprised? I mean, look, you must’ve known that your lies were going to bring consequences…right? -Right. -Right. So, how foolish of me to forget. I am so sorry. Okay, lay ’em on me. Okay, first of all, uh, you stay away from carly. That’s easy. And the rest of my family. Including my grandson? Well, uh, michael’s his father. That’s his decision — what he wants to do with his son. And you and carly, of course, are going to back michael, whatever he decides. And I do believe we should not cross paths. Well, why don’t you give me a list of places that you think you’ll be, and I’ll just avoid them? Anything else? And I have the right to change the rules as I see fit. You weren’t wrong. What do you mean? About me finding out who you really are. Been quite the education. You know what? These — these rules make it easier for you. Oh. Yeah. Do you want me to thank you? No. No. I-I don’t need gratitude. I just want peace. Oh. Good luck finding it.

[ Chuckles ] Well, when I do, I’ll let you know so you can find it. But we’re not supposed to cross paths. Well, I can make an exception. So… okay, I think, uh, I covered it, so I’m going to let you get back to work. Wait. Mike left this in nixon falls. But it was never his. Sonny… it’s been yours all along.

Ava, I’m not going to have that conversation with you without sonny. Okay. I-I just thought, because you and I… we got along pretty well — right? — In sonny’s absence. I thought we could work together to lay the groundwork for a civilized conversation about the current arrangement. That’s all. I understand. Not without sonny. So, in spite of everything, you and sonny are as… committed as ever, huh? In spite of what exactly? Well, not what. Who. I’m not going to talk to you about this. Um, as for avery’s custody agreement, I am sure sonny will be happy to talk to you. So, if you don’t mind, you can go. Carly. Honestly, I didn’t come here only to talk to you about avery. I wanted to tell you how sorry I am about everything that’s happened — right? — What nina did to you and to sonny, to your family. It’s just — it’s deeply disturbing, isn’t it? I mean, the mark of a — a very troubled mind. To conceal a man from his family, to make them believe that he was dead while he’s off creating another life as a new person. But you’re friends with nina. Did you know what she was doing? Did you know that she knew sonny was alive? Were you keeping her secret? No! No, god, no! This is avery’s father we’re talking about. Nina would never tell me — she knows I wouldn’t keep that kind of secret. You better hope so, because if sonny found out, he would be very unhappy, and if you cross sonny, he’s the one who’s going to respond. Not mike from nixon falls. That’s my dad’s watch. Take it. Take it. I threw it away in nixon falls. I-I never — never thought I’d see it again. Why’d you throw it away in the first place? Because I felt it was holding me back from… taking that next step with…you, my life. Well, now your watch has come back to you. Where’d you get it? Well, phyllis actually found it. She was walking past one of lenny’s old fishing haunts. Lenny? Yeah. Maybe he had a hand in finding it. That watch was meant to be found. Is that what phyllis said? No, she actually said the opposite. She…didn’t know whether or not she should give it back to you. Why? Because she thought that maybe it would bring up some painful memories, but I figured you’d want it, so I told her to leave it here. Why didn’t you hold on to it? Sonny…

[ Sniffles ] …I don’t have claim to any part of you. Not even as mike. I never did. I didn’t come here to lay down the ground rules. I, uh — somebody said that I should forgive you.

[ Sniffles ] You’re kidding. Yeah. I mean, not… not forget. Forgive. Sonny? Do you forgive me? Not now. But I’m — I’m — I can’t rule it out.

[ Sniffles ] Hi, liv. Hey, leo. What brings you guys here? I hope everything’s okay. Just a — just a visit with his pediatrician. Good. Yeah. Mrs. Quartermaine. Leo. Dr. Diamond will see you now. Okay. Uh. Honey, why don’t you go with, uh, nurse caty for a second? I’m going to have a conversation with brook lynn. Okay, sweetheart? It’s okay. It’s okay, sweetie. It’s okay. Let’s go. Is everything okay? Well, I don’t know. Why don’t you tell me? You seem to be the expert on my son. You and — you and austin. Sorry. I didn’t mean for you to hear any of that, olivia. No, no. I don’t need an apology. I just would like an honest answer. Is that what austin’s been — been hinting about all this time? He thinks my son has autism? He does. I mean, you had a nice life in pautuck. You had a — what? — Medical practice. 500 people sponsored you in raising thousands for a local hospital. 505. What? Well, I did have the most sign-ups. And you sacrificed all that to try and force your way into a family that doesn’t want you. Yeah, I know. It must seem counterintuitive. And I did have a great life there.

[ Sighs ] So why give that up? The answer for me is simple. I don’t think I really could have enjoyed that life unless I tried to have this life. Nothing like that’s ever happened to you? You’ve never been in a situation where you had to weigh two things that you cared about and choose one over the other? Have you really been that lucky? Okay. Come on, come on, come on, come on.

[ Sighs ] It’s — it’s quitting time. We got — no, I can’T. I have a last-minute emergency. No, we — we got to do the brainstorming about how to get liesl home. Delayed. No, it can’t be delayed. She is in danger. She’s not just gonna get away from peter august. She’s alone. And anna devane is not going to make her a priority. Okay, scott, what — what are we supposed to do? Huh? Hire a mercenary? Well… that could be a little pricey. However, you know, what — what if we — we did come up with the money, you know?

[ Snaps fingers ] Like that? Who? Who? Who would we get? I mean, do you have any contacts, you know, with the black ops? What about your old daddy faison? Any of his cronies around?

[ Chuckles ] That’s funny. You know, I actually never thought of downloading his address book. Well, it wouldn’t work, anyway. We need someone closer to home, someone that is willing to plunge into danger, someone who is… stone cold. No. Yes. No. Yes. I’m not calling jason. Nothing kills lift and push and push! Thoctor aboutaustedo…it’s tim e to treat td. For smooth, luminous ski asking jason to find my mother is a terrible idea. I love liesl, and anna devane hates her. Now, listen, we got to pull out the big gun, and the big gun owes you. You don’t know the first thing about jason and me. Well, what — why — why don’t you enlighten me?

[ Scoffs ] We were two people who were on the run from some killers, okay? Yeah. Well, that happens every day. Look, we — we had some laughs. We dodged some bullets. That’s it. He doesn’t owe me anything, and I don’t know how to ask. Well, wait. Uh, whoa. Here you go. Let me script it for you. “Hey, jason…” f-forget it, scott!

[ Stammering ] Seriously. O-o-okay, I-I know you don’t want to go crawling to jason.

[ Scoffs ] You want to be dignified in the afternoon. You don’t want to look pathetic. But how are you going to feel if your mother never comes home? Are you going to say, “wow, at least I have my dignity”?!

[ Scoffs ]

[ Sighs ] Don’t overthink this, liv. Austin is clearly trying to divide and conquer. He wants our family to be confused and distracted so that we can’t present a united front against him. You think my son has autism? Look, I got the good doctor breaking confidentiality so I could bring it to britt. She’s getting the — the disciplinary board involved. He might even lose his medical license. There’s no way he’s gonna have time to fight for a piece of elq. He’ll be too busy fighting to stay a doctor. Yeah, yeah, I-I — I-I see what you’re doing. You do? I’ve just got one question for you — what is my son to you? A brother? Or just a means to an end?

[ Cellphone rings ]

[ Ringing stops ] What’s up, boss? I know you’re not on the schedule tonight, but I need you to come in. What’s the medical emergency? I just need you to come in now. Uh, okay. Maybe next time we can help each other out. Maybe next time we can get that beer. You know, I wasn’t joking about boxer’s knuckles. As hard as you hit that thing, you need to be careful. Good luck. Thank you, jason. Good luck to you, too. Looks like it… took a beating when I threw it away. Yeah. Nothing a little cleaning and repair can’t fix.

[ Clears throat ] I just… don’t want to put it on. I don’t want to take it off. I — you know, ’cause my dad loved this watch, and he recognized it, you know, when he barely recognized anything, and I don’t know why I would throw it away. Now you have it back. It’s true, you know? In life, as in music, timing is everything. What do you mean? Well, phyllis walked past lenny’s old fishing haunt to rescue your watch, and you returned home on jason and carly’s wedding night just in time to stop. Carly. You’re right about one thing — timing is everything.

[ Door opens, closes ]

[ Exhales sharply ] I was hoping that you and i could collaborate for avery’s benefit. I did not mean to start anything, honestly. I will tell sonny that you’d like to speak to him. Thank you. I-I-I’d like to see avery tomorrow. So maybe then the three of us could sit and — and talk about custody. Sure, should be easy. We’ve done this before. Well, yeah, you, me, and sonny, not you, me, and…mike. There’s no “mike.” Are you sure? It’s not like sonny has forgotten the life he led for all of those nine long months, right? All those experiences — they’re still with him. Just like all your experiences are still with you.

[ Indistinct conversations in distance ]

[ Box rattles ] Peppermint. Okay, I-I guess I was a little harsh. You called me “pathetic.”

H-hypothetically pathetic. If I don’t swallow my pride and ask for help from a guy who dumped me to marry his best friend. Well, that marriage didn’t make it to the break of day. Well, how does that make it better? Well, okay. Um, so, did your mother ever tell you about a little thing called


Schadenfreude? My german is schlecht. Mm-hmm. Well, yes. Mine’s intact.

[ Chuckles ] So, I-I have an idea. Mac scorpio — he’s been a gun for hire. Maybe he knows someone. No. Hell, maybe he’ll do the job himself. He hates peter august. No, no. Mac needs to stay with maxie.

[ Sighs ] I will think about talking to jason. Okay? But don’t get your hopes up. He’s got his own priorities. I doubt my problems are among them. Hey, jason, sonny’s not answering his cell. Is he with you? I-I haven’t seen him. Is everything okay?

[ Sighs ] I’m not sure. I just had a run-in with ava about avery. I don’t know. Maybe it’s nothing. Ah, it’s never nothing with ava. Yeah, that’s true.

[ Breathes deeply ] Anyway, don’t worry about it. I’ll talk to you later. Bye. Of course I’m doing this for leo, I love him. I’m sure you do. I’m also sure you wouldn’t think twice about exploiting him for your own gain. I’m only telling the truth. Okay? Austin violated hipaa rules when he told me leo might have autism. Now, he could say I misunderstood, and I will agree with him if he drops the lawsuit. Why would I care about any of this? You think my son is autistic! Austin doesn’t have the authority to make that kind of diagnosis. He barely even knows leo.

[ Breathes sharply ] Look, you might want to take him to see a pediatrician who specializes in this sort of thing, just to be absolutely sure. Oh, my god. I cannot believe we are having this conversation. I am so damn sick of you quartermaines always putting your company in front of your family! Olivia… dr. Gatlin-holt, thank you for coming in on such short notice. What’s the problem? You are. My office. It looks a little imbalanced. I tell you what — if you just switch the models’ pictures, I-it might look a little bit more balanced, yeah.

[ Knock on door ] Nina!

[ Whispering ] I’m in the middle of something.

[ Whispering ] Oh, you could say that again. You’ve been living a double life, haven’t you? Here you go. Thanks.

[ Door closes ] My chair. Yeah, I, uh, I put it in storage. And I, you know, I was using different one. You don’t like my chair? Just, you know, it didn’T… didn’t seem right. But now everything is, uh, back to the way that you left it. Mm, yeah. What’s, uh — what’s up? Something on your mind? Yeah, you and carly.

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Eli: Oh, this man’s on a roll.

Abe: Of course I am! The woman said yes.

Lani: I still cannot believe that my aunt and my dad are getting married.

Abe: Well, indeed we are, so I would like us to raise glasses and have a toast to love.

Paulina: Oh.

Eli: To love.

Lani: To love.

Abe: Love, to love.

Paulina: Oh, and let’s not forget about marriage.

Abe: Oh, that’s right. Cheers.

Abigail: So is that why you want to play john in the movie? You don’t want me to have a sex scene with another man? I mean, you do realize I’m gonna be acting, right?

Chad: Yes, of course. I was just–I was kidding.

Abigail: Were you? ‘Cause your jealousy is kind of what got us into trouble, in the first place.

Chad: I was wrong about you and jake. I regret ever going there. You know that.

Abigail: Well, I don’t know. I’m kind of starting to wonder if it’s happening again. Do you want johnny to give you the part in the movie because you don’t trust me with ej?

Chad: No, it’s got nothing to do with him. I just want to spend time with you as much as I can. And I think that doing this movie will be good for us.

Abigail: Really?

Chad: Yes. I have a feeling that this could bring us closer.

John: Hey.

Roman: Hey, I’m sorry for coming by so late without calling first, but I just wanted to let know I told johnny i won’t help him fund that movie.

John: Nice. Thank you, roman. I know that wasn’t easy.

Roman: No, but you’re right. The last thing we want is for marlena to have to relive that time.

John: I hear you. Hey, come on in.

Roman: Okay.

John: So tell me, how did johnny take the news?

Roman: Well, I just explained to him that when I agreed to invest I thought he was doing a movie about sami. And now, it’s all about this devil business, and I just think that telling that story is not a good idea.

John: Yeah, well, I’m sure he was disappointed.

Roman: Yes he was, and I, you know, I felt bad about having to let him down, but we’ll get past it. The important thing is that we do everything we can to protect marlena.

John: Amen to that.

Just let go, marlena. Give in to me. Give in to me. Give in to me.

[Dramatic music]

Excellent. You’re finally starting to let go. You’re almost there, marlena. We have already achieved so much together. If you let me back in, there will be no limit to what we can accomplish. But we cannot delay. Our time is now. I need you to be mine tonight.

Male announcer: Like sands through the hourglass, so are the “days of our lives.”

[Soft orchestration]


[Soft music]


Ciara: Was that just me, or did that feel different? Extra special?

Ben: It was definitely not just you.

Ciara: I didn’t think it was.

Ben: Uh-uh.

Ciara: And that kind of has me wondering.

Ben: Oh, yeah? What are you wondering, my love?

Ciara: I’m wondering if we just made a baby.


[Ominous music]

Babe, what was that? Is there a storm coming or…

Ben: Everything looks clear.

Ciara: So then what made the window fly open?

Ben: I have no idea. Maybe it’s just a big gust of wind?

Ciara: That appeared out of nowhere, and just disappeared? That’s pretty weird, ben.

Ben: I really hope that wasn’t, like, some kind of bad omen.

Ciara: Bad omen of what?

You should be very proud of what you’ve helped me accomplish so far. You attacked julie williams, in the hospital, and convinced everyone it was her husband doug. You had him committed to bayview, so you would not expose our collaboration. Then, best of all, you persuaded ben weston to father a child, to bring his and ciara’s baby into the world. You convinced him to let go of all of his fears about the future. Now, marlena, you must let go of yours. Woman: I have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis.

Abigail: So you think us acting together would bring us closer?

Chad: I do.

Abigail: Hmm. Well, what if I turn out to be a big diva on set?

Chad: Wouldn’t care if you were.

Abigail: No?

Chad: No.

Abigail: It’s not gonna bother you if I insist my room is stocked daily with purple hydrangeas and chocolate-covered pretzels?

Chad: It’s an independent film with a shoestring budget. I don’t think anybody’s gonna be getting a dressing room.

Abigail: I want the pretzels. Milk chocolate.

Chad: Okay.

Abigail: Not dark.

Chad: All right, you got it. But I do think that playing john and marlena would be really cool. I mean, just think of everything that they’ve overcome, all of the times that they’ve been separated, and they got back together. And they just keep getting stronger and stronger. It’s a really beautiful love story they have.

Abigail: They’re a real super couple.

Chad: Yes they are. It gives me hope that we can come back together. And who knows? Maybe, by the time the film is done, we’ll be able to sleep in the same room.

John: You know, when I saw that revised script, I almost blew a gasket.

Roman: Did you talk to marlena, tell her what’s going on?

John: Well, you know, I was going to, but when I got over to the hospital, she was so upset.

Roman: About what?

John: Well, she had this really heavy therapy session with ben weston, and I guess she didn’t like the way the session went. She wanted to talk to him some more, but, roman, she was so drained. I said, “no, no, honey, time for you to shut it down tonight.” I brought her home, and she got right into bed.

Roman: Okay. So she doesn’t know the new direction johnny’s going in?

John: You know, maybe I’m being a little overprotective by not telling her, but she’s been having such a rough time lately, I just didn’t want to pile on.

Roman: Okay, was she upset about something else other than ben?

John: Doug.

Roman: Oh, oh, yeah, doug. God, that poor guy. Not in his right mind. I mean he even attacked his own wife, and I mean, marlena did what she had to do, to protect him and everybody else.

John: Told her the exact same thing, but she still feels like she failed doug. I think that’s why she’s so driven to try to help ben right now.

Ciara: Ben, what do you mean by “bad omen”?

Ben: I don’t know.

Ciara: Ben, what happened? You were feeling so good earlier, so optimistic after seeing marlena.

Ben: I was, and I am. I am.

Ciara: So then why are you talking about bad omens?

Ben: I just think it’s kinda strange. You know, I mean, you decide to throw away your birth control pills, we make love, and then you wonder out loud if we just made a baby. And then, all of a sudden, the windows blast open, and all the candles blow out.

Ciara: So what are you saying, what do you think that means? You think someone’s trying to warn us not to get pregnant?

Ben and ciara’s child is so important for the future. I want that baby. I need that baby for myself.

[Dramatic music]

– Oh…oh. – What’s going on?

Ciara: Ben, answer me. Do you think that some unknown force is trying to warn us not to get pregnant?

Ben: Of course not, no, baby. I know it was just the wind.

Ciara: Ben? You promised me that you’d be honest with me from now on. Baby, what’s going on?

Ben: I guess I’m just just a little nervous about having a baby.

John: I’m telling you, roman. Doc is just really beating herself up lately.

Roman: She’s a great doctor, the best; everybody knows that.

John: Yeah, I know, but still she feels like she failed doug. And then she had to make that painful decision to have him committed there. It’s just kind of shaken her confidence.

Roman: Well, you know, hopefully get some rest’ll help.

John: Yeah, yeah, I think she’s too wired to sleep though. That’s why I made her some tea. Probably should run it in to her.

Roman: Yeah, good call. You know what? If you need anything, either one of you, just say the word.

John: Oh, thanks, man. And thank you again for backing out of that film. I mean, even though it’s just gonna be on the big screen, we don’t need that particular bit of history repeating itself.

I can feel you’re still fighting me, that you’re not ready to fully commit. I know you’ve always done everything for everyone else and nothing for yourself. Except when you let me in and feel my power coursing through your veins. You need to let yourself go completely and feel that way again. Perhaps you’d be more open to the idea if you knew my plans, which can only come to fruition with your help. You can never go back on the approval you gave ben to bring a child into the world. The future is in your hands, marlena. I think it’s time that I share with you exactly what I have in store for that child.

Abigail: Chad.

Chad: Now, I’m not trying to pressure you at all. I just miss sharing a room with you, and a bed. But I know you’re not ready for that, and I respect that. And I would never try to skip past everything that I have to do to make things right between us anyway. I just–I’m just expressing hope for the future.

Abigail: Well, it’s like i told you in boston. There’s nothing I want more than to be able to trust in our marriage again and our love.

Chad: And you’re not there yet. I understand. And I’ll wait as long as it takes. But I just want you to know I love you. I always have, and I always will.

[Soft music]

And that’s just about what i wanted to say. I’ll let you go to bed.

Abigail: Hold on.

Chad: What?

Abigail: Why don’t you stay in my room tonight? This is the sound of an asthma attack…

Chad: What did you say?

Abigail: I think you heard me.

Chad: I did–I think I did. I just–I wanted to make sure.

Abigail: [Sighs] Ever since I came home, I’ve kept you at arm’s length. But you’ve been very patient, and you’ve been understanding, and you’ve been devoted, and you’ve taken care of the kids. You’ve taken care of me and given me the time and space that I need. Everything I have asked, you have done and more, and so, I think it’s time I let you back in.

[Soft music]


Ciara: Oh, baby. I didn’t expect one session with marlena to magically erase all of your reservations. I mean, having a baby is still a huge step, no matter what. It’s life-changing, so it makes sense for the both of us to be a little bit nervous. I’m nervous, too, baby, as much as I am excited about the idea.

Ben: But we will stay on it, and we’ll just be hopeful that I don’t pass down any of the mental illness I had to our child, and if, god forbid, we see any signs at all that I did, we find treatment.

Ciara: Mm-hmm.

Ben: Right away.

Ciara: Mm-hmm, that’s right.

Ben: I’m sorry for freaking out. It’s just that you could be pregnant right now.

Ciara: Well, the odds are pretty slim for the first try. And so that means we are gonna have to try again, and again, and again, and again, and again.

Ben: And again.

Ciara: And again.

Ben: I am down for that.

Ciara: Hmm?

Ben: Mm-hmm.

Ciara: Although, honestly, weston, between the two of us, I am getting the short end of the stick here.

Ben: What do you mean short?

Ciara: Well–

Ben: What?

Ciara: I mean that I’m gonna be the one to gain all the weight, I’m gonna wake up with the morning sickness, the swollen ankles. All you’re gonna have to do is run to the store and get me my cravings whenever I want.

Ben: Mm-hmm, and I’m going to love every minute of it. In fact, what can I get you right now? Ice cream, pickles? What can I get you?

Ciara: Just this, babe.

My plan for ben and ciara’s baby is so monumental, so magnificent, and it all begins with–

John: Hey, doc, still awake?

Damn that john black, always trying to come between us.

John: What the heck? Is this thing locked?

Just ignore him, marlena. He’ll go away.

John: What the hell’s going on in there? Looks like it’s stuck. Hey, doc, are you okay in there? Doc? Hang on, doc, I’m coming! Come on!

Tackling tough messes can

take more time than you have,

[Soft music]


John: Hey, sweetheart. You okay, honey?

Marlena: Oh, yeah.

John: Hey, I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to wake you up. I just got really worried when I couldn’t open the door, and I swear I heard some voices in here.

Paulina: One key lime pie to go.

Eli: Oh, you know I’m gonna enjoy this.

Paulina: Well, to each his own, baby, to each his own.

Eli: Hey, and congrats again.

Lani: Oh, thank you so much for dinner.

Paulina: Mm-hmm.

Eli: Oh, bring it in. Bring it in.

Paulina: Aw.

Eli: I love you guys.

Abe: Oh, hey, take care.

Eli: See you guys later.

Paulina: Goodnight.

Eli: Goodnight.

Abe: That was a lovely evening, don’t you think?

Paulina: Hm.

Abe: Everything okay?

Paulina: I can’t believe I asked lani to call me mama. What was I thinking?

Abe: Hey, you know, you shouldn’t be so hard on yourself, just got carried away. Now, I know how you feel. Being lani’s dad is–it means everything to me.

Paulina: Well, after all that celebrating, I am wiped out. I think I’ll get ready for bed.

Abe: You know, let me ask you this–now that we are engaged, when do you want to do this?

Paulina: You mean, you want to set a date?

Abe: Yeah, any thoughts?

Paulina: Well, I guess that depends upon if you want a big wedding or a small one. Big takes a lot more planning.

Abe: Well, if it was left up to me, I’d do it tomorrow.

Paulina: I guess we’ll be having a small one.

Abe: So I will defer to my bride.

Paulina: Abraham, we are on the same page about pie and wanting our wedding to be an intimate affair. And now, for our first big challenge after becoming engaged–

Abe: Challenge? What do you mean?

Paulina: Finding a free date for both of us when we can get hitched–ah!

[Soft music]


Ciara: I don’t really want any food right now, do you?

Ben: Not really, kinda tired.

Ciara: Yeah, me too, but I don’t think I can go to sleep quite yet. Maybe there is something good on tv.

Ben: Yeah, check it out. I’ll watch anything.

Ciara: Okay.

Oh, my god. It’s “rosemary’s baby.”


John: Were you on your phone?

Marlena: No, I was asleep.

John: Maybe the voices came from that. Sound machine might have switched over to the radio or something. It looks fine to me.

Marlena: Oh. Well, I didn’t hear anything. Maybe I was talking in my sleep. What did you hear me say?

John: I’m not sure. I was out in the hall. Everything was mumbled.

Marlena: Okay.

John: No, no, no. Where are you going?

Marlena: Well, honey, I’ve been awfully worried about ben. I want to get dressed and go check on him.

John: No, no, you need to rest. You can talk to ben tomorrow.

Marlena: No, I don’t think–

John: He’s gonna be fine. He’ll be fine.

Marlena: It’s not–

John: He’ll be fine. Right now, I’m a lot more concerned about you, okay?


For once in my life,

I feel a little good

thing inside

looking in your eyes

I only want to love you

and hold you tight

I feel fine

because you’re mine

we’re in the light

dancing in the light

of love

holding you tight

tripping in the light

of loving


my world is gonna shine

because you’re mine

because you’re mine, mine

because you’re mine, mine

because you’re mine

because you’re mine

because you’re mine

because you’re mine

because you’re mine

because you’re mine your mission:

Eli: Hey, roman.

Roman: Hey, well, look at you two out on the town.

Lani: Yeah, we were just out at dinner celebrating.

Eli: Yeah, abe and paulina got engaged last night.

Roman: Oh, great, I like it.

Lani: Yeah, we’re really happy for them both.

Roman: Yeah, so am I. I didn’t think he’d propose this soon, but they do seem like a great match.

Eli: Made in heaven.

Paulina: So you thinking, like, a saturday night vibe or more easy like sunday morning?

Abe: Well, I have no preference. You know, of course I like having a nice wedding, but it’s the marriage. It’s the marriage that’s important.

Paulina: Abraham, we are on the same page. So how about mid-december?

Abe: Yeah, that’s almost too close to the holidays.

Paulina: Right, right.

Abe: Yeah. How do you feel about earlier in january?

Paulina: Hmm, oh, no good. I’m breaking ground on a project in bal harbour, and that time of year in salem, kinda bleak, no?

Abe: Yeah, I see. I see what you mean, yeah. Well, how about the third week in november?

Paulina: Well, that actually could work.

Abe: Ooh, that’s great. That would be more than a month’s notice, so theo and brandon could arrange to be here too.

Paulina: Oh, you think we could pull it all together by then?

Abe: I think anything we put our minds to will work.

Paulina: Well, then it’s all settled. A little more than a month from now, we’ll be husband and wife.

Abe: Ooh.

Paulina: Oh.

Ben: Why’d you turn it off?

Ciara: It’s a horror movie, and it’s not really what I want in my head right before I go to sleep.

Ben: Is it about a woman who gives birth to the devil’s baby? Just seems pretty dumb.

Ciara: It wasn’t a bad omen, ben.

Ben: What do you mean?

Ciara: That movie coming on was totally random. No one is trying to tell you that you’re evil and that I’m rosemary.

Ben: I mean, who said that?

Ciara: I can see it in your eyes, babe. You’re freaked out that I landed on that movie. Am I right? Baby, I am not some submissive pixie, and you are not evil. You are the best. You are a loving, caring, wonderful man, and you are gonna make the most amazing father. I know it because it’s true. And you’ve come way too far and worked way too hard to let fear ruin that. So let’s just forget about all of this nonsense that happened and focus on what is really real, and that is our love for each other.

[Soft music]


John: Here you go.

Marlena: Chamomile?

John: Hope it helps.

Marlena: Oh, I guess i thought it would be hot.

John: Yeah, well, I was on my way to bring it to you when roman stopped by.

Marlena: Oh, roman came by? Why?

John: We’ll talk about it later–tell you what I’ll do. I’ll go heat this up, okay?

Marlena: Hey, why don’t we talk about it now?

John: Well, I was going to, but I know that you were kind of upset about ben. Johnny has decided to rename his movie from “the sami brady story,” to “the marlena evans story.”

Marlena: Why would he change a movie about sami to a movie about me?

John: Well, apparently he’s fascinated about your past, specifically when you were… when you were… marlena: Possessed by the devil.

John: You know, I was upset enough just by knowing it was gonna be a part in the movie. Now, the whole damn movie’s gonna be about it.

Marlena: Oh, no.

John: But don’t worry about that; that’s why roman came by. He told me he changed his mind about investing. Johnny’s having a hard time coming up with the cash ’cause practically everybody has said no.

Marlena: So he won’t be able to make the movie?

John: I’m not gonna let him.

Marlena: That was his dream.

John: His dream was to make a film, and he can still do that. He’s just not gonna do this one, ’cause the last thing you need is to have to relive that part of your life, honey.

Chad: I can’t believe this is real. I mean, I’ve wanted this and you for so long. But I…

Abigail: What?

Chad: I just–I have to ask you something, but I don’t know if I should.

Abigail: You can ask me anything.

Chad: So does this mean we’re back together? When I heard about the science behind the new

Abigail: I don’t want to shut you out anymore; I want to be close to you.

Chad: I want that too, more than anything.

Abigail: But I think we also have to be realistic about where we are, you know? Our problems don’t disappear just because we made love. We’ve still got a lot of things to work on, and I’ve got a lot of things to work on. Everything–the guilt that I feel, after everything that happened with gwen’s baby, and… but I don’t want to work on things alone. Moving forward, I would like to work on everything together.

Chad: We will, I promise.

[Soft music]


Abe: Look how far we’ve come. It’s all because of you.

Paulina: Me, really? What did I do?

Abe: You kept your promise not to hide things anymore, no more secrets, no more lies. I mean, ever since, it’s just been wonderful. You made peace with your daughter, with my daughter, with me. I’ve never been happier. And I hope you feel the same way.

Paulina: Of course I do. Of course. Oh, mm.

Lani: Okay. The babies are asleep thanks to our excellent nanny. And thank you for cleaning up.

Eli: No problem, but now I am in the mood for something sweet.

Lani: You have got to be kidding me. I don’t ever want to see another pie for as long as I live.

Eli: No, no, I’m not talking about a pie. No pecan pie, or key lime pie, or florida lime pie.

Lani: Mm-hmm.

Eli: I want some lani pie.

Lani: Oh. Well, come get it.


Ciara: Are you sure you’re okay?

Ben: Yeah, I am.

Ciara: No more worries about random gusts of wind or horror movies with devil babies?

Ben: No, no, no, no. Dr. Evans made me see that there is no reason why we shouldn’t have a child. And god forbid, any issues come up, we’ll handle it together, like we handle everything. We are gonna make the most beautiful family together.

Ciara: Oh, my god. I love you so much.

Ben: I love you so much. You can barely keep these eyes open.

Ciara: Yeah, I’m tired. Will you hold me? I want to fall asleep in your arms.

[Soft music]


John: I hope you’re not upset with me and my bringing up that movie.

Marlena: No, of course not.

John: All right, you know I support johnny. Just that he needs to understand that this project, it’s never gonna happen.

Marlena: I assume you you talked to him?

John: Well, you know I did. And so did allie, but I think he needs to hear it from you. And I was just thinking that, once you were feeling better, you know, you could talk him out of it, but now I don’t even think you’re gonna have to have that conversation.

Marlena: Oh, well, I’m glad for that.

John: And everything that is in the past is gonna stay in the past where it belongs. And it’s just gonna be smooth sailing for me and you, baby, from now on out.

[Ominous music]

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Transcript provided by Suzanne

[ Upbeat music ]

Zende: So, you don’t like the neck line?

Thomas: I do, on paper, but I don’t think this fabric will allow the neck line to fall like you really want it to.

Zende: It could. Remember the way it’s stitched… kind of holds up.

Thomas: Right, I’m saying, I like the design. It’s just honestly, with this fabric, it’s not gonna work.

Zende: I disagree.

Thomas: Okay, hope. What do you think?

Zende: Is everything okay?

Hope: Uh, yeah. Yes. Everything is okay.

[ Sighs ] All right, well I might as well tell you. I’m honestly surprised you haven’t heard donna or pam gossiping about it but… my dad is out of prison. He’s back in town.

Thomas: Deacon?

[ Man groaning ]

[ Clinking ]

Deacon: Dammit sheila, dammit! Come on, come on!

[ Sheila giggling ] God. Ugh.

Sheila: I hear the third cup is a charm. But you surprised me. I really thought someone like you would hold their liquor better.

Deacon: Your bedside manner sucks.

Sheila: Well, excuse my frustration. I hauled you up here, you passed out. That was not my idea of a great night.

Deacon: Oh, what’s a matter, were you expecting a little something else?

Sheila: I wouldn’t touch you deacon, even if I wanted to slap you. Now can we just call it straight on the children?

Deacon: You know, coming up here was a mistake, and hooking up with you is a recipe for disaster. Sheila, if I’m gonna have any relationship with my daughter, come on. I can’t be anywhere near you.

Sheila: You’re never gonna get past liam and the forresters on your own.

Deacon: Well, you know, that’s not really any of your business. Same as whatever’s going on with your son has nothing to do with me.

Sheila: Your daughter hung up on you last night.

Deacon: She wants to have a relationship with me. I mean why else would she have written me all the letters in prison? You know, I just… I just gotta get through to her. And I’m gonna make that happen. Today.

Zende: On a scale from one to ten, how freaked out do you think hope is right now?

Thomas: Look, deacon is about as low as they get, but hope has a soft spot for him.

Zende: He is her dad, right?

Thomas: Yeah, I don’t know if it’s that, though. It’s like hope has this ability to see good in people no matter who they are.

Zende: Talkin’ about liam?

Thomas: Talkin’ about me. But you know, I don’t know what deacon being back means for hope or her family.

Paris: Hey, sorry. I don’t want to be an interruption.

Zende: You could never be an interruption.

Paris: Hi. I was looking for hope. I wanted to go over some forrester foundation stuff.

Thomas: Yeah, actually she just stepped out. She’s on a conference call.

Paris: Is everything all right? I heard you mention deacon, and what it might mean for hope. Who is deacon?

Thomas: That’s a long, ugly story.

Zende: Featuring hope’s father.

Hope: No, the pleasure’s all mine. All right. We’ll talk soon.

Deacon: Shh, it’s okay. It’s dad. It’s dad. It’s me.

Hope: Dad, hi.

Deacon: Hey. I had to get past security.

Hope: How did you know I would be in here and I was alone?

Deacon: I got my ways. You know, I tried to call you last night.

Hope: Yeah, but dad, you can’t be here.

Deacon: Yeah, I know, I know.

Hope: If someone sees you–

Deacon: I’m complicating your life. I know, I’m sorry. I just want to say I’m sorry for everything. I know I’ve said it before. I know I’ve let you down. I just– I want you to understand, I’m different now.

Hope: Why should I believe you this time?

Deacon: I was in my cell, and I was reading. I was reading one of your letters, and it got me thinking about my past. I’ve got so many regrets, and you were talking about that doctor, the one who stole your baby and you thought you’d lost your daughter. Only to be reunited months later. And you were talking about the hurt. The thought of losing another child was the worst hurt you’d ever gone through. And that the pain was so bad that you… you thought you might die. And… the fact that I couldn’t be there for you. The fact that I couldn’t just hold you and… um, wipe away your tears. It just–I… it broke me. And I said to myself that if I ever get out of there, I will do whatever it takes to be a part of your life. Hope, please. I know that I can be the father you deserve. Just give me another chance.

From the very first touch,

Thomas: Apparently hope has been sending deacon letters for quite some time.

Paris: So, she really wants to connect with him.

Zende: He will definitely use her love to get what he wants.

Paris: And that is?

Thomas: I don’t know exactly, but I’m sure it’ll be self-serving.

Zende: It usually ends up with hope being hurt.

[ Phone chiming ]

Thomas: Finally!

Zende: What is it?

Thomas: My realtor said that my seller’s agreed to the reduction. The deal’s closed. Drawing up the paperwork. Yes!

Paris: Oh wow, congratulations!

Zende: Finally! I feel like they were giving you the run around for a while.

Thomas: Yeah, but you know what? This place is worth it. It’s perfect for me.

Zende: So, what are you gonna do with your apartment?

Thomas: I’ll just sublet it. Wait a minute, you’ve been living with your friend after you moved out of steffy and finn’s, right?

Paris: Yeah, finding the right place has been really hard.

Thomas: Okay, well, why don’t you, why don’t you just take my apartment? It’s fully furnished.

Paris: What? No. No, I can’T.

Thomas: Seriously. You can have it for free.

Paris: No, thomas, that’s way too much.

Thomas: It’s not too much, you’re a part of the forrester family. We’re friends, okay? This is what friends do for each other. Look, at least come take a look at it. And if you like it, it’s yours.

Paris: Okay, but I’m going to pay my own way. There are a lot of people out there who can’t, and I am fortunate.

Thomas: Okay.

Paris: Thank you.

Thomas: I actually need to head over there right now if you want to see it.

Paris: Yeah, I’d love to.

Zende: See? I told you it would all work out.

Deacon: I know I can be a terrific father. I really can. I just need the chance to prove it. I also know that you’ve got a lot of people buzzing in your ear telling you horrible stuff about me, and sadly, it’s true. But, but, what’s also true is that I love you. Look, I just… I just want a chance to be the father that you deserve. I wanna be a grandfather to beth. Please. Please, I’m so excited to meet her. I just… want to be back in your life.

Hope: I don’t know what to believe.

Deacon: Hope, just–

Hope: Dad, no. I don’t–

[ Sighing ] I don’t know. Okay, I do know that mom, and ridge and liam certainly don’t want you in my life.

Deacon: Is that what you want?

Hope: I just… I think I just want all of this to slow down. You know, maybe if we grab a coffee or lunch, or something, in public. But you coming here like this. I mean, dad, that’s not a good idea.

Deacon: Is this you talking, or is this them?

[ Door opening ]

Liam: What the hell are you doing here?

Deacon: I came to see my daughter. Like it or not, liam. I’m her father.

Liam: Oh yeah, you’re her father all right. And what kind of father have you been?

Deacon: You know, I’ve been a pretty awful one. Which is exactly why I’m here asking for a second chance. Look, I didn’t come here to con, I didn’t come here to manipulate. I just want a relationship with my daughter. And I want to see beth.

Liam: Absolutely… absolutely not!

Hope: Liam, please.

Liam: Hope, this is what deacon does. Right here, right now. This is it. He’s doing iT.

Deacon: Deep down, hope wants to have a relationship with me.

Liam: Oh my god, get out! Get out! You have caused hope and her entire family nothing but pain.

Deacon: All right, I didn’t come to fight, I just came to tell my daughter… that you have grown up into a beautiful, exceptional woman. Hope, I love you.

Thomas: So, now that I got the house, I mean, you could move in today if you think it’s a good fit.

Paris: It’s great.

Thomas: Well, it’s a great neighborhood, there is a place for pizza right around the corner, and they have live music. They also, after four P.M., You can get all you can eat wings for like ten bucks.

Paris: Mm. Now you’re speaking my language. I thought super rich la guys were just into quinoa and green juice.

Thomas: Ew, no. No, no, no. Look, I know this place isn’t exactly my sister’S. It’s not in malibu, it’s not right on the beach, but it’s–

Paris: Well, it’s perfect. And I’m way more of a city girl than a beach bunny, anyways.

Thomas: Ah.

Paris: Are you sure about this?

Thomas: Yeah, yeah. No, I got my new place, so– actually, I can text over to the management company, have them send you the sublet paperwork right now. Um, look, paris, I’d love for you to live here.

Paris: Deal. Thank you so much.

Thomas: Oh, yeah.

Liam: God, the fact alone that we would just show up like that. You okay?

Hope: Yeah, I’m fine.

Liam: By the way, how did he get past security, ’cause don’t they have a whole–

Hope: Liam, I appreciate that you’re so worried about me, but I really wish you weren’t so harsh with him.

Liam: I’m harsh because I’m trying to protect you. Okay, I know… I know I’m coming on real strong here. I see that. And I know it’s overbearing. But, hope, you have such a good heart. I mean, you have the biggest heart out of anybody I know.

Hope: But…

Liam: But, it makes you vulnerable. Like, people like deacon and sheila, they’re just not the kind of people that change. Even if they really want to.

Hope: And what if you’re wrong about him? You know, he’s had a lot of time to think about his life and what he wants and… is it that crazy to think that he loves me enough to change?

Liam: You tell me. Are you willing to take that gamble? I know I’m being harsh, I just don’t want him to hurt you anymore than he already has. And the best way to achieve that is to not let him be a part of your life.

[ Door knocking ]

Deacon: Hey.

Sheila: That bad, huh? Sorry.

Deacon: Yeah, sure.

Sheila: I mean it. I know what it’s like to be rejected by your child.

Deacon: Yeah, but see, that’s just it. That’s just it. I wasn’t rejected. Hope and I were standing there and she wanted to give me another chance. And then…liam walks in.

Sheila: What’d he say?

Deacon: What did he say? He talked to me like I was a piece of garbage. Like I was nothing. I have spent so much time fighting the forresters, and now I gotta fight liam spencer?

Sheila: Yeah, well, I have fought the forresters, too. And now I have to contend with steffy.

Deacon: Maybe we’re the problem. Maybe we ought to… maybe we ought to just quit. Sheila, the forresters are never gonna let you around them.

Sheila: You’re telling me to give up on finn and hayes? My own son and grandson?

Deacon: You’re never gonna have a relationship with them, so yes. Yes, before this goes too far because you are starting to get obsessed again. Everybody knows what happens when you think you should have something. I mean, you did it with lauren fenmore, you did it with eric forrester. Look, you just, you need to stop and realize what you can’t control. So, you need to leave your son, and the forresters the hell alone.

[ Sinister music ]

Thomas: Okay, so all this was already in your car.

Paris: Well, yeah. My friend didn’t have a lot of closet space, so.

Thomas: Oh, you want me to start moving this stuff to the bedroom?

Paris: No, no. You’ve already helped so much and I e-signed the sublet while I was out there.

Thomas: Oh, then this place is officially yours. Congratulations.

Paris: Thank you. And if you’re up for it, I would love to treat you to some of those wings that you were talking about. Show my gratitude.

Thomas: You’re on.

[ Phone ringing ] Oh, it’s my realtor. I gotta take this. But, make yourself at home. It is your home. Hello? Yeah. Okay. Am I sitting down? What do you mean? What? No, no, that’s not possible because they accepted my offer. Okay. All right, yeah. Okay, thanks.

[ Scoffs ] I can’t believe this. Um… well, I guess the seller backed out. He just gave the place to his buddy instead. I guess I’m not moving after all.

Deacon: I just came to tell my daughter that you have grown up into a beautiful, exceptional woman. Hope, I love you. If hope wants me out of her life… sheila: She said she wanted a relationship with you, then liam interfered.

Deacon: What could I do? That’s her husband. I mean, if for some reason, she doesn’t want me around, that’s how it’s gotta be. It’s the same thing with your son. I mean, if he doesn’t want you in his life, you gotta give him what he wants.

Sheila: What are you gonna do? What, are you gonna leave town? You’re gonna go from job to job?

Deacon: I don’t know what I’m gonna do, okay? But what I do know is that I haven’t earned a place in hope’s life. The same as you haven’t earned a place in finn’s life. Sheila, you know, maybe we just need to admit that we lost.

Sheila: You know what I hate more than anything, deacon? Someone with a defeatist attitude. A coward. Someone who gives up. No one had a perfect upbringing. But when there’s blood between a mother and a son, and a father and a daughter, you don’t give up. That blood bond is something that cannot be broken. I will have a place in my son’s life. In my grandson’s life. In the forresters’ life. Yu understand? Am I a mother that’s obsessed because I want to see my son? Yes. What’s really surprising me here right now is that you’re not. I thought you told me that you cared about hope.

Deacon: Hope means everything to me.

Sheila: Well, then do something about it. Together, we can get our kids back. But, you know what? If you would feel better crawling back into that bottle that you came out of, you go right ahead. But, I’m gonna be a part of my son’s life. I’m gonna be a part of my grandson’s life. And there is nothing that steffy and the forresters can do to stop me. I won’t stop until I get what I want. And you know what, deacon? I always get what I want. I always get what I want.

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Interview with actors Cindy Cheung, Frances Fisher, Alice Kremelberg, Bill Pullman, and executive producers Jessica Biel, Michelle Purple, and Derek Simonds of “The Sinner” on USA Network by Suzanne 9/13/21

The Sinner
Cindy Cheung, Actor, “Stephanie Lam”
Frances Fisher, Actor, “Meg Muldoon”
Alice Kremelberg, Actor, “Percy Muldoon”
Bill Pullman, Actor, “Harry Ambrose”
Jessica Biel, Executive Producer
Michelle Purple, Executive Producer
Derek Simonds, Creator/Executive Producer/Showrunner/Director
Virtual via Zoom
September 13, 2021

This is a great drama, and I loved being in this panel. This was a large panel of press, so I only got to ask a few questions. I hope you enjoy it!
“The Sinner” returns for Season 3 October 13, 2021.

I asked Jessica Biel what she does as executive producer on the show, especially this season. As you may know, she also starred in the show’s first season. She replied that my question was a good one because, “I feel like the role of producer is very different and has a lot of different meanings and for all different types of people in shows. For this particular show, as an executive producer, we work closely with [showrunner] Derek and the team, the writing team, to sort of give notes on the scripts and sort of help support them as they’re working through — they’re breaking their story and they’re writing their episode. Honestly, we’re a big support system during the development process, or really whatever Derek and his team need, we help crew up for the actual production. We’re highly involved in the casting process. I’m saying “we.” I’m talking about [executive producer] Michelle and I. And really, the show is such a well—oiled machine at this point that once you get going into production, you know, you give it to the experts that you’ve hired and you just sit back and stay out of the way. And I think part of being a good producer is knowing when and how to do that. And this season, particularly, we did a lot of that, because of the different restrictions on set and everyone trying to stay as healthy and safe as possible. So, we never worked on set the way we normally are, which is hard and sad, because that camaraderie is something that I really miss. And I love that part of making TV and films.”

I was happy to get a second question, so I overserved to Bill Pullman that his character, Harry is “fairly quiet” and that he has to “convey a lot without using so many words.” I asked if that was something that came easy for him.

He replied in a thoughtful manner, “I think it’s always been a surprise to me, some of the actions to “The Sinner.” And a lot of people think I don’t say very much in the series. And I’m, of course, looking at the lines I do say and had to learn, and I feel like I’m talking all the time. But there’s something about the confidence. Because I’ve really just been so looking at — I think all the other actors in this season know this trust that you get, that your behavior is important. So, it’s the editing that you see. When you see the show, it’s not always just who’s talking. “Let’s cut to who’s talking.” It takes a certain courage to not do that, to trust that what isn’t being said is as interesting as what is said. And we, all of us, get that message pretty loud and clear from Derek when we’re going — we go through these — each script line by line. And Derek spends time with each of the actors. And then we spend time with each other. And because of Covid, we had a really freakishly great privilege to isolate just ourselves. We didn’t have people coming in from the outside. They couldn’t come in to visit. We lived close to each other. We could — we got together over scenes in a way — I’ve never experienced this, even though there’s seasons of “The Sinner” we didn’t have this. And Derek encouraged it. Derek joined in. We would come up with our list of questions, we’d go back and forth, so that you knew that the immediacy of the moment was the premise. That was number one, was to really feel alive and awake to the situation of what isn’t being said as well as what’s being said.”

Another journalist asked Pullman how his character and his work is affected by what happened last season and whether it will continue through this season. He kind of chuckled and says that his character discovers that retirement is not as nice as it sounds because you don’t just start over. You carry everything with you still. He feels conflicted about what happened to Jamie last season. He relates, “Season 4 kicks off, he’s bolted from his therapist, he’s off his meds, and he can’t sleep. Welcome to retirement.”

Another person from the press asked Simonds or Pullman to compare seasons 1 and 2 to this season. Simonds confirmed what Pullman said, that season 3 builds on what happened to Harry in past seasons, especially season 2. He’s going to have a “major reckoning point in this season that we haven’t really seen him encounter before.”

Pullman was also asked what attracted him to the role of Harry Ambrose and how he likes him. Pullman pointed out that this is the first series he’s done regularly (meaning more than just a guest-starring role). He praised Simonds, who came to find him for the role once he saw him in an Edward Albee play, “The Goat.” He thinks Simonds “wanted to find what we could be authentic about in our characters. And it started with Harry. But he’s continued it with all the characters as he finds — meets people and begins to work in the writers’ room. He’s crafting some pieces of your autobiography or something, at least with Harry, where all these situations have some reference to my own life. So, it’s like therapy on display, in a small way. But I think Season 2 in particular was so much following the fabric of my western New York State upbringing and situations that I had gone through in my past. And he moved it away from that slightly but kept the roots in it. And so that was one thing. But I think the whole sense of someone who is wrestling with what it is to be human and what it is to have — to sense that the truth is not something that’s easily accessible, and the world is really a stacked deck against getting to truth and living clear from trauma and other circumstances.”

Michelle Purple was asked whether she used anything on her show “Cruel Summer” in “The Sinner.” Purple replied that she didn’t think she did because they were two very different “beasts.” She credits Simonds for “bringing something so fresh and new to ‘The Sinner.’ You know, he surprises us every season with a little nugget of an idea at the end of the last season, and then the way he and the writers are able to bring it to fruition is amazing. It’s really his brainchild every season.”

Jessica Biel was asked whether she missed acting on the show and would like to come back. She admits that she does miss it when she’s everyone together on the set. She missed the “crazy, wild creative stuff that we got to do in Season 1.” She says that sometimes discuss the idea of where Cora could come back. “Who knows. We always kind of like to imagine a world where that could be possible. But yeah, sometimes it’s hard. It’s hard not to be on the playground with everybody else.”

Purple claims that Biel asked her yesterday, “Do you think Cora can come back for Season 5?”

The next reporter had a question for Simonds but siad that the others could chime in. He/she wanted to know how they figure out the theme for each season, and do they have to do casting or story first.

Simonds agreed that each season is a little different, but they’re guided in part with how Ambrose acts in his meta-arc over the seasons. “That’s always been kind of the thing that’s guided me creatively.
So, you know, after Season 1, I wanted to see Ambrose confront his childhood. After Season 2, I wanted Ambrose to confront a man who was not an innocent. After Season 3 and this, you know, death that Ambrose is a part of with Jamie Burns, I wanted to see him contend with guilt, and the guilt that he’s kind of accrued over his whole life, and what one does with that.
So, it’s always been about following this journey of Ambrose’s. And then the casting and the concept of the characters comes (inaudible). What would most activate Ambrose? What kind of person would most activate him? What would trigger him the most? So, we’re always trying to put him in hot water, basically.”

The next question was for Biel. She was asked how people in the show can escape the dark places in their minds when it seems there’s no turning back. Biel doesn’t know the answer, but she loves how they explore those ideas in the show. She replied, “I’d love to explore the question in these characters and in these shows that we produce and that, you know, that Michelle and I like to make, and that Derek and his wonderful cast. And I would be curious, you know, Alice or Frances, Cindy, if anyone has any thoughts on this as well, because you’re all playing characters with tons of complexities. But I’m not sure if you fully are able to get away from it. And sometimes I think it does take people down, and down a path that you can’t recover from.”

Simonds suggested that Alice Kremelberg, who plays Percy, answer the question. He said that she’s “struggling with the darkness within her.” Kremelberg said that Percy is trying to “move through things, face the dark past, and trying all different facets, going outside of herself. And you’ll see as the series progresses all the different ways that she’s trying to reconcile with what happens in the story. And seeing what works, and what works best, and finding, kind of, in your own life how that relates, is really always fascinating to me. Not knowing the whole scope of the story going into it, and then kind of reading through everything, like, “Oh, this does relate to me a lot.” And how we as humans really try to reconcile with ourselves and move past and through these things. So, yeah, it’s definitely something that Percy faces, and that I think we as humans face.”

Simonds is then asked whether there are any headlines he might want to use for the show. Simonds answered that he never really took story ideas from the headlines. He prefers to find ideas that he can identify with personally. After thinking for a minute, he admited that was inspired by the “Black Lives Matter movement.” He admits that “it’s normally a very focused, hermetic show about the inner workings of one person or a few characters’ psychology, and I wanted to do that and also expand it into a bigger canvas and engage some of the broader social movements that we’re collectively processing and figuring out right now.” He added that they have a much more inclusive cast and an inclusive set of issues that we’re taking on this season.”

A reporter asked about the color palette used in the production, which is dark and cool.

Frances Fisher answered that the color pallette is muted on the show, but “there’s also another side to it, the town of Lunenberg itself. Completely brightly painted houses, row houses, that were just fascinating. It was almost like walking on the back lot of Warner Brothers or some magical Brigadoon-ish town, you know. And how did it affect us? I mean, we were just immersed, you know. We were immersed in the air of it and all of the different weather patterns that would occur in a day. I think that affected all of us, you know, psychologically and emotionally. So, we reflect that.”

Another press person asked the female actors to tell what drew them to their roles how they prepared to join the world of the show and whether they had watched previous seasons.

Cindy Cheung revealed that she was a fan of the show, so she had watched previous seasons. When she saw the material, “it just struck me instantly how deep I would have to go in order to explore this particular character. And, you know, just that question comes up, ‘Do I wish to go there? Do I wish to inhabit this not-easy place to be in?’ But as I worked on it, it just resonated personally in so many more ways than just a role, just as my own experience as a person. And, so, I was very fortunate to be able to see it all the way through.”

Kremelberg also said she was a fan of the show. “The writing was so strong, and the character was already in the scenes that I had, you know, stripped down. I love drama. And it’s just — it’s gritty. It’s real. It’s emotional. It’s raw. It’s all those things that I as an actor really am drawn to. And it just kind of, like, jumped off the page when I read it and when I was taping it. And it’s just such an immaculate show that I’m so proud to be a part of. So, all of those things together.
And getting to be a fisher is so cool. We got to know so much of that in Lunenberg and go out on the boats in Lunenberg to really learn how to pull up the crates and all that. So, it was just, you know, all—encompassing really, just an incredible experience. But the writing and the character just, like, really drew me in.”

Frances relates that she was glad to have the role of “A kick—ass role for a woman in her late ’60s, and Bill Pullman all in one script, oh, my god.” She also said she binged the entire first season in one sitting.

Simonds was also asked about the venue change for this season. Simonds said that he was looking for a small town that had racial and class politics “and using that as kind of a reflecting board for a statement about broader social movements. And then I was also just really excited about Season 4. I feel the show had been so, so tied to this upstate New York feel, and the idea of Ambrose encountering a seaside town and having the metaphorical power of the ocean, the myth around fishing and seafaring, and Ambrose sort of entering as a fish out of water this world that he doesn’t understand, had a lot of dramatic potential and kind of helped us develop his character further and just kind of revitalized the show. Without, I think, or hopefully without changing the template too much. I think it’s still feels like a kind of New England East Coast show. It has a regional feel still. It just felt like a great kind of pivot, without reinventing the wheel. It’s not Ambrose going to Hawaii.”

Another journalist asked Biel if working on a show about crime has made her more paranoid in real life. Biel agreed that probably does feel that she’s more on edge and waiting for crazy things to happen in real life, like they do on the show.

Simonds jokingly added, “She’s also a pretty dark and twisted person by nature. I mean, you’re very comfortable in that space.” Biel agreed, adding, “It’s very true. And I’m not totally sure why. I had a really nice childhood. But — I don’t know. I love true crime. I always have, and I always will.”

Frances Fisher was asked how she deals with getting a project where she doesn’t like the script or isn’t fond of the characters. She answered that she just tells her agent “thank you” and “I just don’t have the capacity to work on this right now.”


Still reeling from the trauma of a previous case a year ago, the now-retired Harry Ambrose (Bill Pullman) travels to Hanover Island in northern Maine for a recuperative getaway with his partner, Sonya (Jessica Hecht). When an unexpected tragedy occurs involving the daughter of a prominent island family, Ambrose is recruited to help the investigation, only to be thrown into a mystery of mounting paranoia that will turn this sleepy tourist island, and Ambrose’s life, upside down.

From UCP, a division of Universal Studio Group, Derek Simonds serves as showrunner and executive producer, alongside executive producers Jessica Biel and Michelle Purple through their production company, Iron Ocean. Charlie Gogolak, Adam Bernstein and Nina Braddock also serve as executive producers.


Day & Time:
Wednesdays (10-11p.m. ET) on USA Network

Season four premiere:
Oct. 13, 2021

Bill Pullman, Frances Fisher, Alice Kremelberg, Neal Huff, Cindy Cheung and Ronin Wong, with Jessica Hecht and Michael Mosley

Executive producers:
Derek Simonds, Jessica Biel, Michelle Purple, Charlie Gogolak, Nina Braddock, Adam Bernstein

Created for television by:
Derek Simonds

Ellen Marie Blum

Derek Simonds (401), Jonathan Caren (402), Jenny Zhang (403), Piero S. Iberti (404), Kate Roche (405), Gerald Cuesta (406), Mia Chung (407), Nina Braddock (408)

Derek Simonds (401), Adam Bernstein (402/403), Radium Cheung (404), Haifaa Al-Mansour (405), Batan Silva (406/407), Monica Raymund (408)

Production designer:
Phillip Barker

Directors of photography:
Radium Cheung, Andre Pienaar

Deborah Moran (401, 404, 405, 408), Amanda Pollack (402, 406), Doug Abel (403,407)

Ronit Kirchman

Music supervisor:
Oliver Hild

Casting directors:
Stephanie Holbrook, Robin Cook

Chester, Nova Scotia

Series produced by:
UCP, a division of Universal Studio Group

Bill Pullman

Detective Harry Ambrose, “The Sinner”

THE SINNER -- Season:3 -- Pictured: Bill Pullman as Detective Lt. Harry Ambrose -- (Photo by: Matthias Clamer/USA Network)

Bill Pullman currently stars in USA Network’s psychological thriller “The Sinner” as Det. Harry Ambrose and for which he received a Screen Actors Guild Award nomination.

He was recently seen in Netflix’s “Halston.”

His movie career includes blockbuster comedies (“Ruthless People,” “Spaceballs,” “Casper”), dramas (“The Accidental Tourist,” “Igby Goes Down,” “LBJ”), romantic comedies (“Sleepless in Seattle,” “While You Were Sleeping”), action (“Independence Day”), thrillers (“Malice,” “Dark Waters”), westerns (“The Virginian,” “Wyatt Earp”), film noir (“The Last Seduction,” “Lost Highway”), horror (“The Grudge”) and television miniseries/series (“Torchwood,” “1600 Penn”).

Pullman started acting professionally on stage in New York in 1983, and shortly after began his film/TV career that currently spans over 70 features and several series. In the past 15 years of his theater career, he has acted in six major productions in NYC and has been nominated as a best actor in four of them.

Most recently, he appeared in the London revival of “All My Sons” in 2019.

Jessica Biel of "The Sinner" on USA NetworkJessica Biel

Executive Producer, “The Sinner”

Jessica Claire Timberlake (née Biel; born March 3, 1982) is an American actress and model. Biel began her career as a vocalist appearing in musical productions until she was cast as Mary Camden in the family drama series 7th Heaven (1996–2006), in which she achieved recognition. The series is the longest-running series that aired on The WB channel and the longest-running family drama in television history.

In 1997, Biel won the Young Artist Award for her role in the drama film Ulee’s Gold. She received further recognition for her lead role as Erin Hardesty in the horror film The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003). Biel has since starred in such films as The Rules of Attraction (2002), Blade: Trinity (2004), Stealth (2005), The Illusionist (2006), I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry (2007), Valentine’s Day (2010), The A-Team (2010), New Year’s Eve (2011), Total Recall (2012), and Hitchcock (2012).

In 2017, Biel was the executive producer and star of the USA Network limited drama series The Sinner, for which she received nominations for a Golden Globe Award and a Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Limited Series or Movie.

Frances Fisher of "The Sinner" on USA NetworkFrances Fisher

Meg Muldoon,“The Sinner”

Frances Fisher stars as Meg Muldoon on the USA Network psychological thriller “The Sinner.”

Born in Milford On-Sea, England to American parents, Fisher’s itinerant childhood living in the UK, Columbia, Nova Scotia, France, Brazil, Turkey, Italy, Iowa and Texas undoubtedly influenced her decision to live the actor’s gypsy life.

Fisher has starred in more than 30 theatrical productions, including Elia Kazan’s “The Chain,” “Hay Fever,” “Cat on a Hot Tin Roof,” “Summer and Smoke,” “Orpheus Descending,” “1984,” “A Midsummer Night’s Dream,” “Fool for Love,” Arthur Miller’s “Finishing the Picture,” “Three More Sleepless Nights” (Drama League Award), “The Cherry Orchard” (Mark Taper Forum) and “Barbecue” (Geffen Playhouse), which won three NAACP 2018 Theatre Awards, including Best Ensemble.

On film, Fisher is perhaps best known for her performance as Kate Winslet’s mother in “Titanic,” which garnered her a Screen Actors Guild nomination for Best Ensemble Cast. Her numerous film credits include the Oscar-winning “Unforgiven,” “In the Valley of Elah,” “True Crime,” “The Kingdom” and “House of Sand & Fog.”

On the TV side, Fisher played Lucille Ball in “Lucy & Desi: Before the Laughter” and has also had roles on many acclaimed series, including “The Shield,” “The Killing,” “Masters of Sex,” “Law & Order,” “Roseanne,” ER,” “Grey’s Anatomy” and “Watchmen.”

Fisher’s supports several worthwhile causes and is an executive board member of the Environmental Media Assn. She is currently serving her 21st year on the National Board of SAG-AFTRA and is an Ambassador for NWHM, working to create a National Women’s History Museum in Washington, D.C.

Fisher is a member of the Actors Studio, and her first acting teacher was Stella Adler.

Cindy Cheung of "The Sinner" on USA NetworkCindy Cheung

Stephanie Lam, “The Sinner”

Cindy Cheung plays Stephanie Lam on the USA Network psychological thriller “The Sinner.”

Cheung has guest-starred and recurred on a wide range of TV series, including “The Flight Attendant,” “Billions,” “13 Reasons Why,” “High Maintenance,” “FBI,” “Blindspot,” “The Good Fight,” “Blue Bloods,” “New Amsterdam,” “House of Cards” and “Homeland.”

She has appeared in numerous films, including Noah Baumbach’s “Mistress America” and “The Meyerowitz Stories,” Jenny Slate’s “Obvious Child” and “The Sunlit Night,” “Children of Invention” (Sundance) and M. Night Shyamalan’s “Lady in the Water.”

On stage her most recent role was in Nia Vardalos’ adaptation of the Cheryl Strayed book “Tiny Beautiful Things at the Long Wharf.”

Alice Kremelberg

Percy Muldoon, “TAlice Kremelberg of "The Sinner" on USA Networkhe Sinner”

Alice Kremelberg plays Percy Muldoon on the USA Network psychological thriller “The Sinner.”

Kremelberg is a film, television and theater actor born and raised in New York. She portrayed Nicole Eckelcamp in several seasons of Jenji Kohan’s “Orange Is the New Black” and can be seen in Aaron Sorkin’s award-winning Oscar-nominated film “The Trial of the Chicago 7” on Netflix.

Other film and TV credits include “Monsterland,” “Doomsday” (AMC’s HollyWeb Fest winner for Best Series), “The Taking of Pelham 123,” “New Amsterdam,” NCIS,” “Nurse Jackie,” “Blue Bloods,” “The Big C,” “Smash,” “Law & Order: SVU” and “30 Rock.”

Her stage credits include “Dry Land,” “Dress of Fire” (The Abingdon/Players Theater), “Suddenly Last Summer” (ATNYC), “Road Veins” (Amy Witting), “Lend Me a Tenor” (PPAS), “The House of Bernarda Alba,” “A Lie of the Mind” and “The Nutcracker” alongside the New York City Ballet.

Kremelberg has trained at the Atlantic Acting Conservatory, Fordham University, Upright Citizens Brigade and the Professional Performing Arts School, and studied with Tanya Berezin and Ted Sluberski, among others.

Derek Simonds, executive producer of "The Sinner" on USA NetworkDerek Simonds

Executive Producer, “The Sinner”

Derek Simonds is the creator and an executive producer of the USA Network psychological thriller “The Sinner.”

Simonds has developed numerous independent film projects as a writer and director, most recently executive producing Sony Pictures Classics award-winning release “Call Me by Your Name.” He was a writer on the ABC miniseries event “When We Rise,” a recounting of the gay civil rights movement created by Dustin Lance Black, as well as ABC’s 2015 limited series “Astronaut Wives Club.”

Simonds has developed television pilots for UCP, ABC Studios and TNT, and also wrote and directed his debut feature film, “Seven and a Match.”

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Y&R Transcript Tuesday, October 12, 2021

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Victoria: Something’s wrong. What is it?

Ashland: I’m through hiding things from you —

Victor: We are having a discussion, the kind a father has with his future son-in-law when he’s about to marry his daughter.

Victoria: Well, it’s a little late to be asking him what his intentions are, don’t you think?

Ashland: You’re right. Victor and I are determined to make sure there are no surprises, that this wedding goes off without a hitch, and that we can savor the celebration.

Victoria: Which means there’s something that needs to be dealt with that you’re not telling me.

Victor: Sweetheart, all you have to know is that I have any potential threat to you, to the wedding, or to ashland under control. I give you my word, alright? So, you two get ready. I’ll see you at the party. Goodbye, sweetheart.

Victoria: You look pale. And my father doesn’t fool me. What is this really about?

Jack: Hey!

Billy: Hey.

Jack: Look who’s here. When did you get in?

Billy: Not long ago. Hello, nikki.

Nikki: Hello, welcome. Where are lily and the kids?

Billy: Driver’s at the airport. They should be getting in any second. If you’ll excuse me, I’ve got to take care of something.

Jack: What do you think that’s about?

Nikki: Who knows? But I don’t like the sound of it.

Ashland: [ Sighs ] After you left earlier, I had a little trouble breathing.

Victoria: How bad was it?

Ashland: Well, it was really nothing. It lasted a short while. Not gonna get in the way of the festivities.

Victoria: Well, should I ask nate to come check on you?

Ashland: No, no, no, no. There’s certainly no need. Ironically enough, billy was the one who came to my rescue.

Victoria: Billy’s here? I haven’t seen him yet.

Ashland: Yeah, he’s probably laying low.

Victoria: Well [Sighs] Given that he’s been flooding my phone with messages, I assumed that he’d be banging on my door the moment that he arrived. He seems eager to confront me with his news that he thinks i need to know.

Ashland: Well, there’s nothing billy can tell you that you don’t already know.

Victoria: Well, mom told him not to come, but I’m actually glad that he did because i cannot wait to see how crushed he will be when he sees that he flew all this way for nothing.

Ashland: That’ll be very satisfying for you.

Victoria: I wonder why i haven’t seen him yet. Do you think he’s avoiding me?

Ashland: He’s probably mapping out his grand entrance or something like that. I say we don’t give the guy another thought.

Victoria: [ Sighs ] That sounds good to me.

Ashland: Right. I’m gonna finish getting ready, and then we can head downstairs and welcome all of our family and friends who came to cheer us on.

Victoria: Okay.

Phyllis: Seriously? We’re going to leave? I mean, I got this dress and — and, I mean, we should’ve just gone back home after milan.

Nick: I know, I’m sorry. I didn’t know I’d feel like this until after we arrived.

Phyllis: Alright. Okay, if you want to leave, we’ll leave. If you want to stay and keep on working on victoria, we’ll stay. I’ll do whatever you want. I’ll even keep, you know, the disparaging remarks about victoria to myself.

Nick: I’ve said everything that I can think of to sway her, and nothing’s working. Now, she said she’s not gonna kick me out, but I don’t want to be this dark cloud hanging over her wedding.

Phyllis: Alright, I’ll just do whatever you want. I mean, honestly, I’m only here because of you. We both know I wouldn’t have made the guest list otherwise.

Nick: Then let’s just leave.

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Noah: I could tell how preoccupied you were at summer and kyle’s ceremony. Something wasn’t right.

Nick: Yeah. I didn’t want anyone to notice that, noah.

Noah: Well, you did a great job covering. Every time there was a quiet moment, I saw that look in your eye. And now, what, you guys are talking about not even staying for victoria’s wedding?

Phyllis: Um, you know, I’m gonna let you guys talk in private. Father-son time. I’ll do whatever you want.

Noah: Come on, man, talk to me. What’s going on?

Nick: I did some checking into ashland’s past behind victoria’s back. She found out about it and she felt betrayed.

Noah: Did you learn something bad?

Nick: It doesn’t matter what I found out. Didn’t affect her decision at all to go through with this wedding.

Noah: He clearly didn’t win you over.

Nick: I just need to accept the fact that my sister’s gonna make her own decisions without my input.

Noah: So tell her that.

Nick: I have tried. Nothing works. She refuses to accept my apologies.

Noah: Wait, so you’re running away because your feelings are hurt?

Nick: I’m not running away from anything, noah, alright? I just don’t want to be somewhere where I’m not wanted.

Noah: Well, that sounds like an excuse to me. Victoria probably just needs some time. If her forgiveness is really that important to you, stick around and fight for it.

Nick: Of course it’s important. I never would’ve looked into ashland’s past if I didn’t care about her.

Noah: Alright, so it might be hard for her to see that. Big deal. You know, if you taught me one thing, it’s not to walk away from a challenge. Figure out a way to overcome and work things out. Given there was also plenty of other meaningless father-son lessons I ignored, this isn’t one of them. And I’ll be really disappointed in my old man if he doesn’t follow through on his own advice.

Victor: Well.

Nikki: How are the bride and groom? Do I need to check on them?

Victor: They’re just fine. They’ll be here shortly.

Nikki: Okay, um…

Victor: Mm-hmm.

Nikki: I saw billy a few minutes ago. He seemed skittish. That’s never a good sign.

Victor: Baby, don’t you worry, okay? I have my eye on billy boy abbott. Trust me, nothing and no one will ruin this celebration. Nothing.

Jack: There seems to be some intrigue afoot.

Nate: Yeah, we picked up on that, too.

Jack: I just hope it has nothing to do with my brother.

Elena: Well, planning such a big event has got to be stressful, and a destination wedding in italy is probably extra difficult.

Nate: I wonder if I should go check on ashland.

Leslie: Ah, and where’s the happy couple?

Victor: My goodness, leslie brooks. How nice to see you. You look beautiful.

Leslie: Oh, after traveling all day, I think not.

Nikki: No, no, my husband is right. You look sensational. We are so thrilled that you will be able to be at victoria’s wedding.

Leslie: Well, I’m delighted that it worked out with my concert schedule.

Jack: Well, believe me, the pleasure is all ours.

Leslie: Jack abbott, how long has it been?

Jack: We have a lot of catching up to do.

Leslie: We do indeed.

Jack: First, though, I’d like you to meet a couple dear friends. Leslie brooks, dr. Nate hastings, dr. Elena dawson.

Victor: Just in case anyone asks if there’s a doctor in the house.

Nikki: Oh.

[ Laughter ]

Leslie: Well, I’m pleased to make your acquaintance.

Elena: It’s so exciting to meet a famous concert pianist.

Jack: Yes, leslie is one of genoa city’s own and the least likely to ever be a celebrity.

Nikki: Ahh, but her playing. When victor and I heard you in milan last spring for my birthday, we were absolutely transported.

Victor: It was a hell of a show, if you don’t mind my saying so.

Leslie: Oh, not at all, victor. I’m flattered.

Nikki: Well, we are just thrilled that you’ll be able to play for victoria and ashland’s ceremony.

Leslie: Well, I’m honored to be included. Your daughter deserves every happiness.

Jack: Well, I will drink to that.

[ Indistinct conversation ]

Jack: Hey, hey. What’s going on? You’re sniffing around here like a bloodhound.

Billy: Just a little confused. I guess lily arrived early and she’s here, and I can’t find her anywhere.

Jack: Oh, come on, the place is big, it’s not that big. And why would lily and the kids be avoiding the one place everyone’s gathering?

Billy: You know, jack, will there ever be a day that you are not suspicious of me?

Jack: I know how you feel about this wedding. I know you have doubts about ashland. It is not that far a reach to think you might be up to something.

Billy: Oh, look at that. Lily just texted me. She is here, and she’s lost, so I guess this place is that big,after all.

Phyllis: Where’s he rushing off to?

Jack: That’s a good question.

Victoria: Hey, listen. Are you sure you’re ready for this? I mean, maybe we’ve planned too many events. We’ve got this cocktail party, the big family ceremony, and then the reception afterwards.

Ashland: I am more than ready. I can’t wait to welcome our guests to witness the happiest event of my life. Are you ready?

Victoria: I’m ready.

Ashland: [ Chuckles ]

Nikki: Here they are, everyone, the bride and the groom.

[ Applause ] Yawns “okay okay, I’m up, I’m up!”

Victoria: I am so elated to have you here.

Leslie: Oh, well, I remember you as a young girl at nikki and victor’s first wedding. What a wonderful moment this is.

Victor: We have come full circle.

Victoria: Yes, we have. Um, leslie, may I present my fiancé, ashland locke.

Ashland: Enchanted.

Leslie: Oh. I am pleased to meet the man who’s put that radiant smile on victoria’s face.

Ashland: I believe I have every one of your tchaikovsky recordings going back to the ’80s. Each one more exquisite than the next.

Leslie: Oh, well, I don’t think I can even say that.

[ Laughter ]

Ashland: I know this may be a bit of a busman’s holiday, but could I impose on you to play one of my favorite pieces, “sonata rom*ntica in g major”?

Nikki: I love that one.

Leslie: Oh, well, it will be my pleasure to oblige as a gift to the happy couple.

Nikki: Oh.

Leslie: Yes, and I’m looking forward to accompanying tessa porter on your wedding song.

[ Chuckles ] And I hope you don’t mind if i let loose and play a little jazz on that exquisite piano.

Victor: By all means.

Leslie: As the evening progress.

Nikki: It’ll take me right back the allegro days.

Leslie: Oh, then it’s a deal. Aww. Okay.

Victoria: [ Chuckles ]

Victor: Shall we?

Leslie: Shall we?

Nikki: I’m going to sit here and listen.

Leslie: Yes.

Phyllis: Love the way she’s tickling the ivories. Alright. I’ll just shut up and enjoy the setting and the ambiance and the company.

Elena: A private performance from a world-renowned pianist. I hate to add more pressure. That speech of yours has a lot to live up to.

Nate: [ Chuckles ]

Elena: Seems like everyone’s showing up big time for victoria and ashland.

Nate: Yeah, the bar just keeps getting higher. Luckily, I thrive on competition. And I’m starting to get inspired. Look how happy they are.

Elena: Yeah. Victor and nikki seem really happy, too.

Billy: Damn it, where are you?

Lily: I’m right here.

Billy: Hi.

Lily: Hi.

Billy: I’m sorry. I didn’t even know you arrived. You didn’t text me.

Lily: Yeah. That’s okay. Sorry, I was busy juggling the kids and luggage with minimal italian. And the staff told me they would alert you.

Billy: Yeah, well, no one told me.

Lily: Okay. Well, that’s fine. Kids are napping. They’re very cranky after the flight. And I was gonna get changed and meet you at the party.

Billy: Okay.

Lily: You seem less than excited to see me, which is very annoying given how much traveling I’ve just done.

Billy: I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I am thrilled to see you. I am, and thankful that you brought the kids with you all that way. They are going to love it here. It is actually spectacular. And I’ve missed you.

Lily: [ Chuckles ] Okay. I missed you, too.

Billy: How’s mattie?

Lily: She’s good. She’s better. I mean, even though she’s brilliant, she’s having a hard time finding people on her wavelength, but it’s alright. I wish you were there.

Billy: Yeah, me too.

Lily: Whoa, whoa, wait a second, actually. Um…if you didn’t know I was here, who were you expecting to find when you came bursting into the room?

Billy: What do you mean?

Lily: Okay, you’re all flustered. What have you done now? Are you tired of clean clothes that just don’t smell clean?

Billy: What have I done? You automatically jump to accusations.

Lily: I know how you get when one of your plans have gone awry.

Billy: Well, maybe I’m just out of sorts because I missed you and the kids so much.

Lily: No, you said that you had to fly here early to tell victoria some important information, so what was it?

Billy: I found persuasive evidence that ashland locke committed fraud. He changed camilla rhodes’ will and made himself the beneficiary.

Lily: Wow, that’s huge.

Billy: I know.

Lily: So how — how did you find this evidence?

Billy: Well, the evidence is a person. Jesse gaines.

Lily: Wait, you found him? How did you get him to tell you?

Billy: I paid him off.

Lily: How much?

Billy: A hefty sum.

Lily: How hefty?

Billy: A duffel bag full of cash.

Lily: [ Scoffs ] Ah, okay, go one.

Billy: Look, it was enough to get him to flip on ashland and tell me everything he knows about his criminal past.

Lily: And how long were you gonna keep me in the dark about this?

Billy: I couldn’t sit on it, lily. You were in california taking care of mattie, and obviously the wedding was fast approaching.

Lily: Yeah, no, I — I mean, I’ll admit, this is information that victoria needs to hear. What did she say when you showed her the evidence?

Billy: I haven’t told her yet.

Lily: Why not?

Billy: Because I lost the evidence.

Nick: I mean, I see your point. I’m still not convinced that staying’s a good option.

Noah: Alright, look. Have a drink. Get your head in the game, alright? I’m gonna go say hi to victoria. Excuse me, do you know where i can find the bride?

Victoria: Oh, my gosh, noah! Come here, give me a hug. It’s so good to see you.

Noah: It’s good to see you, too.

Victoria: I’m so glad that you were able to make the trip.

Noah: Are you kidding me? I wouldn’t miss it. You must be ashland. I’m noah newman. I’m nick and sharon’s son.

Ashland: I know exactly who you are, and it’s a pleasure to finally meet you.

Noah: Same here. You’re a lucky guy to win my aunt’s heart.

Ashland: Don’t I know it?

Noah: Excellent choice in best man, by the way. Nate, he’s — he’s done a lot for the family over the years.

Victoria: Yes, he’s been a rock for ashland, too, as he’s undergone his treatments.

Noah: Right. I hope that’s all working out. It’s your guys’ wedding celebration, so if you don’t want to talk about it right now…

Ashland: No, no, no, it’s part of our life together. In fact, it’s in our vows — “till death do us part.”

[ Laughs ]

Victoria: [ Chuckles ] My soon-to-be husband has a very warped sense of humor sometimes.

Noah: Sounds like we’ll get along just fine.

Ashland: From everything your aunt tells me, I believe you’re right.

Noah: I hope we find the time to get to know each other better. If not this trip, next time I’m home for a visit.

Ashland: Well, you never mentioned how charming your nephew was.

Noah: [ Chuckles ]

Victoria: I have to wonder where he gets that from.

Noah: Hey, don’t get mad, but I had to convince my dad to stick around.

Summer: Buona sera, everyone!

Nikki: Oh!

[ Applause ]

Summer: Hi! [ Chuckles ]

Lily: Wait, you lost the evidence? How?

Billy: Gaines is the evidence. I need him to tell victoria because she’s not gonna believe it coming from me.

Lily: Wait a second, are you saying that you brought gaines here to tuscany? Billy, what were you thinking?

Billy: My plan was to introduce gaines to victoria discreetly, and he could tell her everything he knows about ashland and then she can make whatever choice she wants, but now gaines is missing.

Phyllis: Oh!

Summer: Hi. Hi. Where’s dad? Hi.

Victoria: Oh, look at you!

Summer: [ Chuckles ]

Ashland: Good to see you.

Victoria: Congratulations. You’re glowing.

Kyle: Oh, well, thank you.

Victoria: I wish I could’ve been there.

Summer: No, no, I get it. You were busy tying things up at work so you could take some actual time off, and I was just crazed with all the details on my end until the last second, so we just had a tiny little ceremony.

Victoria: Well, it doesn’t really matter what size it is, planning a wedding is a lot more work than you would think.

Summer: Right?

Victoria: Yes.

Summer: Well, I am just so happy that we can all be here to celebrate with you, and I am very much looking forward to being a guest and not the center of attention.

Kyle: And she’s not just talking about being a bride. Summer gets recognized on the street all the time now. We can’t go into a café in the fashion district without people checking out what she’s wearing.

Summer: No, I do not leave the house unless every hair is in place now.

[ Chuckles ]

Nick: I always knew my supergirl was gonna be a star.

Victoria: Well, it sounds very glamorous.

Ashland: Victoria and I are so thrilled that you guys are here. And most importantly, that you are taking such good care of harrison. Where is he, by the way?

Harrison: Father!

Ashland: Oh, buddy, look at you! Oh, my goodness! It’s so good to see you.

[ Laughs ] Mm. Yawns “okay okay, I’m up, I’m up!”

“The young and the restless”

will continue.

[ Indistinct conversations ]

Summer: I’m his only friend.

Kyle: [ Laughs ]

Summer: No, it was just us.

Kyle: No, yeah. My father…

Summer: No.

Kyle: It was just us. What do you mean? What do you mean?

Summer: Just us.

[ Indistinct conversations ]

Jack: Well, looks like maybe nick and victoria have called a truce, at least.

Phyllis: Really? Wow. Nick was ready to leave earlier.

Jack: Wait, really?

Phyllis: Yeah, I mean, maybe noah convinced him to stay. He talked to him. Nick didn’t want to make the wedding uncomfortable, so… but I don’t know, maybe he changed his mind.

Jack: Well, I hope noah got through to him. I’d hate for you to have to leave already.

Nate: That was sublime, leslie, really.

Leslie: Oh, why, thank you. Thank you so much.

Elena: So I have to ask, does it ever get old, people asking you to perform when you visit?

Leslie: Oh, well, it comes with the profession. I mean, you’re doctors, so you know. I’m sure people are always asking you about their ailments, and would you refuse to give them medical expertise?

Nate: [ Chuckles ]

Elena: That is a really good point.

Leslie: Well, I believe when you have a gift, it’s your duty to share it. I mean, besides, I love to perform and I’d do anything for victor and nikki’s family. Victoria seems so happy, and your ashland’s best man, so you must know him pretty well. What do you think of him?

Nate: [ Chuckles ] Believe it or not, we didn’t meet that long ago, so I don’t know much about his past, but I’m impressed with the man I’ve gotten to know.

Leslie: Well, from what i understand, victoria and ashland are devoted to starting fresh, writing a new chapter for the rest of their lives. I’m all for that. Why look back?

Nate: I agree. What really matters is where they go from here.

Nikki: It’s so nice having noah here.

Nick: It is, isn’t it?

Nikki: He’s grown into such a talented, confident young man. He reminds me a lot of you.

Nick: It’s funny you say that. He offered me some of the same wisdom I gave him when he was growing up, you know, after i tried and failed to work things out with victoria.

Nikki: Failed? What are you talking about? You didn’t fail. You’re still here. I assumed that meant you’d worked things out.

Nick: She relented and said i could stay, but I’m not sure it’s the best idea.

Nikki: Don’t you dare tell me you’re thinking about leaving.

Nick: Let’s just see how it plays out, okay? I said my piece, I did my best to convince her that everything I did was for sake. I can’t force her to be okay with it.

Nikki: Try to be patient with your sister. That’s my sage advice.

Phyllis: I don’t know, I’m not sure about anything. But now I want to stay, if for no other reason but to spend time with my daughter now. That wedding was gorgeous. She was gorgeous. That was a beautiful, intimate affair, unlike this newman event that’s filled with fireworks and…

Jack: I thought you liked a little drama.

Phyllis: I do like drama, but not like this. It’s like I can never say the right thing to nick about his sister, ever. I’m an outsider in that family, you know that.

[ Sighs ] The way they treat each other, it’s horrific.

Jack: Listen to me. You are not an outsider, certainly not with nick.

Phyllis: Okay, you don’t have to do that, you know that, right? What can I du with less asthma?

Jack: I’m merely being supportive of nick, that’s all.

Phyllis: I know, I know. You’re so supportive of nick and so supportive of us as a couple.

Jack: And that’s a bad thing because?

Phyllis: Because stop trying to overcompensate because of what you said before. I know you’re not trying to get in between us. I know that. You have nothing to prove.

Jack: Okay, I never intended to do that. Maybe you’re right. Maybe subconsciously, I was doing that. I only want what’s best for you.

Phyllis: Ohhh, that’s exhausting.

Jack: My having your back is exhausting?

Phyllis: Yes. Stop trying to humor me. Stop trying to be so careful, you know? It’s annoying. I know, I can be annoying. That’s okay. Let’s just go back to normal.

Jack: Whatever you say.

Summer: So I saw you talking to dad. What is with the mood he’s been in? ‘Cause he seemed really weird in milan, and it seems like he still is.

Noah: He and victoria aren’t in the best place right now.

Summer: Why? What’s going on between the two of them?

Noah: Dad looked into some things she didn’t want looked into, and now she’s totally put out by him.

Summer: You know, I am so surprised that they can still fight at this stage. You know, they have to know that they’re gonna make up eventually, so why put all the energy into it?

Noah: Come on, do you think people ever really grow out of sibling rivalry?

Summer: Um, I think we did.

Noah: Yeah, I’d give us a little bit more time, but…

[ Both laugh ]

Summer: Okay.

Noah: I don’t love being away from the family, but I really don’t miss the constant drama.

Summer: Yeah, I get it. I mean, I miss everyone from back home so much, but milan is amazing and it’s chaos-free and it is a really nice change of pace.

Noah: I can tell europe agrees with you.

Summer: Well, once I got to be with kyle again, it made all the difference.

Noah: Yeah, you married old lady.

Summer: Oh, no. Two weddings in a row. They’re gonna expect you to be next.

Noah: You know, it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. The settling down part, that is.

Summer: Really? Okay, because I thought that you loved being the hip artist living in london, dating all the international goddesses. What?

Noah: Come on, we both know what it’s like to have parents who can never be content with one relationship for too long. Kind of makes you feel like you can’t trust anything will last.

Summer: Yeah. Yeah, I suppose so.

Noah: Yeah, I think that’s why you realized you wanted to be with kyle for the rest of your life. The whole roller coaster thing, it starts to get old.

Summer: [ Chuckles ] Yeah, I mean, kyle and I have been through a lot of turmoil — mostly my fault, ’cause of my indecision. But, yeah, we were on and off again for such a long time until we just figured out that that’s not what we want and we wanted to be together forever.

Noah: I really admire that. Hope to have it for myself someday.

Summer: Hey, you should come for a long visit. No, seriously, I have met so many amazing women that I can introduce you to. They’re entrepreneurs, designers. I — seriously.

[ Gasps ] Oh, and then you can move to milan and we can hang out all the time!

Noah: Yeah, I have been considering a change of scenery.

Lily: You actually brought gaines here to italy? Like, what were you hoping to accomplish, some sort of theatrical newsworthy exposure of ashland right before his wedding?

Billy: No, I didn’t want this to be some big showdown, okay? And I don’t even plan on publishing the information. I simply want victoria that she’s about to marry a liar and a fraud.

Lily: Right.

Billy: She can make her own choice after that, okay? But right now…

Lily: Okay, well, you have a problem. You lost control of the narrative along with the narrator. So are you telling me that gaines is lurking around the palazzo somewhere?

Billy: I’m assuming he is. I mean, it’s a big house. I searched the property. I searched everywhere. I don’t know where he is.

Lily: Who knows, maybe he went to go explore?

Billy: I don’t think so. I thought maybe victor had something to do with it, like his security team found him, but —

Lily: No, if that were the case, victor would’ve tossed you out, too.

Billy: Yeah. Look, gaines has an axe to grind. He despises ashland. My concern right now is that he has his own plan.

Jack: Hey, look, I don’t know if I said this enough in milan, but I couldn’t be happier for how you and summer have found your way back to each other. Here you are, starting a whole new life together.

Kyle: Thank you for making this move to italy work for us. I mean, that’s not just about jabot. I know you miss your new grandson, as well.

Jack: Yeah, I miss harrison and I miss you, but I’m incredibly proud of how you and summer have stepped up for that little boy.

Kyle: Summer and I love having harrison with us. It’s been fantastic.

Jack: I’m also proud of the way you have honored the bond between harrison and the man who raised him.

Kyle: Yeah, well, after everything blew up with tara and ashland getting sick, I wasn’t sure how harrison would do. I know he misses both of them, but every morning, that kid wakes up so joyful and serene, it’s just this miracle. Harrison’s happiness always comes first. Ashland’s someone who he feels safe with and who he loves. To be able to give my boy some time with him means a lot to me.

Jack: To see the man you’ve become, the father you’ve become, makes me smile. You know what really touches my heart? That you always put your son’s happiness first.

Kyle: I learned that from you, dad. Can’t thank you enough.

[ Taps on glass ]

Victor: May I have your attention, please? I want to welcome all of you. I want to thank you for coming from far and wide to be at this momentous occasion, the wedding of my beautiful victoria to ashland locke, a man I’ve come to know and respect. As you know, ashland came to genoa city for business, and he stayed for love. Ashland and I have known each other in the world of business for a while. Knew him to be tough and ruthless, almost as ruthless as I am.

[ Laughter ] But I’m not worried about victoria. She’s a worthy adversary. As a matter of fact, in her wheeling and dealing with ashland, she discovered that he was a good match for her. They combined efforts and their business brilliance and they merged two very powerful companies and created what is really an empire. An empire I hope will continue honoring the legacy of both newman and locke. Now, not only did they merge in the boardroom, but — and this is most important to me — I saw them be very loving with each other. It means a hell of a lot to me. You know that as her father, I’ll always worry, so as her mother. For that matter, one always worries about who one’s child falls in love with. And as a father, I can tell you that one never thinks that any man is good enough for one’s daughter. But you’re a good man, ashland. I’ve learned to respect you. So, without further ado, my beautiful wife, nikki, and I — as you know, we really cherish family — want to welcome you, ashland, into our family. And all of you will vow to support this union. So, in the words often spoken in this beautiful country, let us toast to the couple and to our family.

A la famiglia.

All: A la famiglia.

[ Glasses clinking ] Yawns “okay okay, I’m up, I’m up!”

Ashland: That was one heck of a speech, victor. It meant a lot. Thank you very much.

Victor: Ashland, I meant every word of it, okay? Now, let’s make sure that billy boy doesn’t ruin things, okay?

Ashland: I’m gonna go look for him now and make sure he doesn’t do any more damage.

Victor: Careful.

Gaines: Ashland. Many happy returns of the day.

Elena: Whatever you have planned for your speech, I think you’re gonna have to start from scratch. Victor pretty much covered all of the material I could imagine you saying.

Nate: Actually, he didn’T. It just so happens, when we were chatting with leslie earlier, something she said inspired me to come up with my own perfect angle.

Elena: Oh, really? That sounds great. Let’s hear it.

Nate: [ Chuckles ] I’m not a traditional best man. Ashland and I are from different generations. I don’t know him from the business world. We’re not former fraternity brothers or guys who grew up in the same town together. Ashland’s a new friend. Someone I’ve come to know under extraordinary circumstances, which speaks to the kind of man he is. His character and fortitude in the face of adversity. Who’s marrying victoria, someone I do know and want the best for.

Elena: I loved it. It wasn’t stilted at all or clichéd or trite. It was heartfelt and honest, just like the man giving the speech.

Nate: Whew! That’s what I was going for.

Elena: Well, mission accomplished. Now I guess we can focus on the romance of italy, this amazing wedding.

Nate: And my amazing date.

Ashland: What the hell are you up to, gaines, and what are you and billy abbott planning?

Gaines: Oh, and spoil the surprise? No, I’d rather see you sweating for a bit.

Ashland: You smug bastard.

Gaines: That was quite a tribute the old man just gave, wasn’t it? Maybe I should walk into that fancy party and reveal to everyone how you built your empire on deceit and criminal behavior. Or maybe I’ll wait and announce it tomorrow right before the ceremony. Or maybe I’ll make you so nervous that you’ll feel like you have no other choice but to call off the wedding. Wouldn’t that be devastating for everyone?

Victoria: Ashland, you out here?

Gaines: Enjoy the rest of your evening, lovebirds.

Victoria: That was jesse gaines, wasn’t it?

Ashland: I’m gonna call security and let them handle this.

Victoria: No, don’T. I know exactly how to handle this.

Lily: If gaines is working his own angle, what do you think he’s gonna do?

Billy: I don’t know. I mean, he was very disappointed that I didn’t plan on interrupting the wedding.

Lily: Okay, you cannot let him wreck the ceremony.

Billy: I know. I know. Victoria will never, never forgive me.

[ Door opens ]

Victoria: What the hell do you think you’re doing?

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[ Knock on door ]

Jack: Hey!

Phyllis: Hey! Hi. Isn’t this gorgeous?

Jack: I could not agree more. Milan was wonderful in its own way, you know, the shops, the fashions, the restaurants, the art and culture. But, wow, everywhere you look in this place, it is gorgeous. The newmans have outdone themselves.

Phyllis: Yeah. Well, the palazzo’s beautiful.

Jack: So, I came to drop off this bag you left in the jet. My pilot had it messengered over.

Phyllis: Ahh. I thought I lost this. Great. Ah! I’m wearing it to the cocktail party.

Jack: I somehow doubt you were lacking in wardrobe choices.

Phyllis: [ Laughs ] I have about a dozen dresses that I brought.

Jack: [ Chuckles ]

Phyllis: But I got this one special. I’m supporting my daughter’s flourishing career.

Jack: Of course you are. And you’ll look absolutely stunning in it. I have no doubt. So, where’s nick?

Phyllis: Uh, he’s taking the bull by the horns right now. I mean, we’re here against victoria’s explicit directions not to come. Let’s hope, uh — let’s hope it’s worth it.

[ Indistinct conversations ]

Victor: Hey, my boy.

Nick: This place looks great.

Victor: Doesn’t it?

Nick: Hey, mom.

Nikki: Nicholas, oh, you’re here! I’m so glad.

Nick: Hey, dad.

Nikki: Does that mean that victoria changed her mind about having you at the wedding?

Nick: Uh, afraid not. But I’m not gonna give up. I wanted to talk to you two first to see if you could give me a read on vick before i approach her myself.

Victor: Hmm.

Nick: You think there’s any chance I can repair things before she says “I do”?

Nate: [ Sighs heavily ]

Elena: Huh. So, this is what you’re up to. We have this whole palatial estate to explore, and yet you’re here staring at your tablet screen.

Nate: I want to spend time with you. Really, I do.

Elena: But?

Nate: I’m having trouble coming up with my best man toast.

Elena: Ah.

Nate: I am no speechwriter. I don’t want it to sound stilted. It needs to be smooth, warm, and brilliant, you know? Something worthy of the power couple.

Elena: I can completely understand why you’re having a difficult time. You haven’t known ashland for very long. So you don’t have any old embarrassing stories or funny anecdotes to share.

Nate: Yeah, you’re not making this any easier.

Elena: That just means I will have to find a way to help. Come with me.

Nate: Where?

Elena: To find some romantic inspiration.

Victoria: Some of our guests have already checked in, and the rest are gonna be arriving right on time. So it looks like everything is set.

Ashland: Is it, though?

Victoria: Well, I don’t have anything left on my to-do list.

Ashland: Oh, that’s not what I meant. I have no doubt that all the arrangements will be in order. I’m more concerned about your heart. Now that you have time to let everything I’ve told you sink in, are you really, truly all-in for the wedding tomorrow? I just don’t want you to go through with the marriage if your main motivation is for some precaution to save our company.

Gaines: Wow. This place is something else. Maybe I’ll use some of my payoff cash to buy myself a little palazzo like this one.

Billy: We’re not here for a shopping spree, okay? So just slow down. We got a job to do.

Gaines: And I, for one, am ready to do my part. I have been waiting a long time for this — the well-deserved and ultimate downfall of ashland locke. So, how do you see it playing out?

Billy: Very carefully.

Gaines: You know, I was hoping for something dramatic, like humiliating him while he’s standing on the altar, waiting for his precious bride. Hi. So you’re the scientist here.

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Billy: I understand you’re starting to taste your revenge against ashland, but we are not looking for pyrotechnics here.

Gaines: What’s wrong with a little fireworks? Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. The more painful and embarrassing the reveal, the better.

Billy: Jesse, I’m gonna be very clear. I am here to protect victoria. I do not want to cause her any more pain than what is necessary. I simply want to give her the irrefutable proof that she is about to marry a liar and a criminal.

Gaines: So, what’s your plan?

Billy: Hopefully I can convince victoria to speak with me alone. I’ll bring her back the suite, and you can fill her in with all the details. I want to give her a little bit of space and some privacy with no distractions or interruptions so she can come to her own conclusion, which I’m hoping is calling the whole thing off.

Gaines: Well, as long as the outcome is the same — locke humiliated on his big wedding day.

Billy: I’m gonna go find victoria. You wait here. Sit tight. Don’t go exploring. Don’t go showing your face. If anybody sees you, it could blow the whole thing up.

[ Door closes ]

Victoria: Trust me, ashland. One way or another, newman/locke will be safe.

Ashland: Uh-oh. I know that look. Now, what does my beautiful bride have up her sleeve? ‘Cause it sounds like you have some kind of a plan to protect the company.

Victoria: All I want to focus on right now is the love that we have for each other and our wedding. And I think everything else can wait.

Ashland: It means so much to me that you are still standing by me despite everything you now know.

Victoria: You know, I keep thinking about your childhood, picturing that anxious teen boy having to make those life-changing decisions all on his own, running away from an abusive home, leaving everything and everyone behind, and then losing the one friend that you had in the whole world in a car accident.

Ashland: Mm.

Victoria: Worst of all, you felt like your mentor, the women who meant more to you than your own mother — you felt like she betrayed you on her deathbed. The story — it just haunts me. It really does. So I can see how, even when you became the formidable ashland locke, that it followed you around everywhere.

Ashland: Yeah. That’s exactly how it felt. Hovering over me all the time like a dark cloud. And you do understand.

Victoria: Yes, I do. And I have come to terms with why you didn’t tell me. I — I know that you didn’t want to taint the beautiful relationship that we were building.

[ Sighs ] But now that it has, I just want you to know something. It’s okay. We’re okay. And you’re gonna have to trust me now. And by this time tomorrow, you and I are gonna be husband and wife. And nothing is gonna stop that now. Nothing is gonna stop that now.

Jack: You don’t have to worry about nick. He knows how to handle victoria. I’m just hopeful that she changes her mind and asks him to stay for the ceremony. She knows it wouldn’t be the same without her brother there.

Phyllis: You know, they’ve had so many arguments. So many. But this has gotten really out of control.

Jack: She’s loyal to the man she loves, just the same way he defended you to her over the years.

Phyllis: Well, that’s for sure. When she went after the grand phoenix, he saved my hotel. I will support him.

Jack: Okay, I just want you to know — you are the last person to convince victoria to change her mind.

Phyllis: Oh, I know that. How about you? She’s already respected you.

Jack: I am not getting in the middle of this. They are gonna have to work this all out themselves.

Phyllis: [ Sighs ] I wish she would just listen to him. It’s so crazy that she’s not doing that. Honestly.

[ Sighs ] You know what? They’ll work this out. They always do.

Jack: It is the beauty of family.

Phyllis: She can’t keep on holding this against him. He was just trying to help her.

Jack: I’m sure he feels justified in his actions. Look, at least now he realizes that it’s time to let go and accept the inevitability of this wedding, unlike some people we know.

Phyllis: Who? Billy?

Jack: Do not ask me to enumerate the number of times i have told billy to let victoria live her life.

Phyllis: Okay, I won’t ask you. Ah, I do respect how nick will go above and beyond for someone he loves. I do respect that. But sometimes talking nice is not the right way to go, and i am afraid that’s what he’s trying to do right now.

Nikki: Darling, you know how much we want to see you and victoria work things out. We’re just not sure how receptive she will be to your surprise appearance.

Nick: I can’t stay away, alright? It’s vick’s wedding day and i want to be here and I need to make my case to her in person.

Nikki: And I agree with you. It’s just that she’s dealing with so much prenuptial stress as it is.

Victor: Son, a lot of this was brought on by you digging into ashland’s past.

Nick: Right. Do I need to remind you that we were both investigating locke?

Victor: No, you don’T. The difference is I didn’t go to new jersey to dig up old skeletons.

Nick: I will accept responsibility for what I’ve done. I was trying to get the truth, but the only thing I want to do now is make things easier on my sister. Vick and I have been in lots of fights over the years. We always find a way to make it work. Are you telling me that we can’t do it this time?

Victor: All I’m telling you, son, is that I don’t want anyone to cause any problems on victoria’s happy day, alright?

Nick: Are you saying I’m a problem?

Nikki: Alright, now, this is victoria’s moment. The last thing she needs is to have the two of you arguing.

Nikki: Hold on a second. Are you two telling me you’re both on board with this wedding?

Victor: Yeah.

Nick: Mom, you’re willing to stand there next to victoria as dad is handing victoria away to this guy who’s been lying his entire life? Who got everything he has because he exploited a death? Really?

Elena: [ Chuckles ]

Nate: So, the trip to the little winery down the road was a great idea. But unfortunately, it didn’t clear my writer’s block.

Elena: What?! How can you not be inspired by that old couple who own the winery? Their story was so romantic.

Nate: It was, but I’m not sure how that relates to victoria and ashland. Look, our new vineyard friends met in elementary school, and they’ve been inseparable ever since, which is pretty much the opposite of the bride and groom’s story.

Elena: Okay, but maybe that’s your angle. Sometimes your first love isn’t always the love of your life.

Nate: Okay, but referencing people’s exes during a wedding toast — probably not the best idea.

Elena: Good point. Okay, so, what do we know about ashland and victoria? They met during work. That’s something the both of us know know a little bit about.

Nate: Sharing professional interests can bring two people together.

Elena: Yes. That means that they have the same passions and values.

Nate: Mm. Working long hours together, saving lives. Oh, wait. That’s us.

[ Both laugh ] Um…structuring deals, making massive financial transactions?

[ Chuckles ] Whatever it is victoria and ashland do with their day.

Elena: Your guess is as good as mine. I was always a lot more excited about the O.R. Than executive suites.

Nate: Maybe I need to do a little research.

Elena: Well, in the meantime, we have this fine italian wine, and this will get our creative juices flowing.

Nate: Mm.

Billy: Hey, you two.

Elena: Hey.

Nate: Hope you got an extra glass for me.

Nate: Billy. You made it.

Billy: I did, yeah. We had a smooth flight. How was yours? How was, uh, ashland’s private jet?

Nate: Ah, it couldn’t have been better.

[ Chuckles ]

Elena: So, billy, I hope your arrival here means that you’ve come to terms with the fact that this wedding is going to happen?

Nate: Yeah, there’s no way victoria’s backing out now.

Billy: Yeah, well, we’ll see. I, uh — I assume everything’s gonna go exactly how it’s supposed to. Now, if you don’t mind, I’m actually looking for victoria. Excuse me.

Nate: I get the feeling he’s not letting this go.

Elena: Yeah, and he’s fighting a losing battle.

[ Door opens ]

Ashland: [ Coughs ]

[ Breathing heavily ]

Victoria: Are you okay?

Ashland: Oh, I’m fine. It’s just a little cough.

[ Coughs ]

Victoria: Have you been taking your medication?

Ashland: Yes. I’m okay. Really.

Victoria: I really hope that the stress of the last two days hasn’t exacerbated your condition.

Ashland: I promise I won’t let anything slow me down or get in the way of reciting my vows to you.

Victoria: [ Chuckles ] Do you know what you’re gonna say? I mean, unless you want me to tell the minister that we’ve changed our minds about writing our own vows.

Ashland: Mine are written on my heart, and they have been for a long time. What about you?

Victoria: I wrote mine down on paper a little while back.

Ashland: Really? Can I get a preview?

Victoria: No, you may not. It’s gonna be a surprise.

Ashland: Well, then I will enjoy the anticipation.

Victoria: [ Chuckles ] Well, I think I’m ready.

Ashland: You certainly are. You know, I’m not sure if I’m ready to let you out of my sight.

Victoria: You won’t have to for very long if you hurry up and get dressed. Besides, losing a few moments doesn’t really matter. We’re gonna have so many moments together in the future. So hurry up and get dressed and meet me downstairs. I’m gonna check in on my parents and see if the rest of our friends and family have arrived.

Ashland: [ Exhales heavily ]

[ Coughs ]

[ Sighs ]

Jack: Hey. Don’t worry about nick. What’s the worst that could happen?

Phyllis: [ Chuckles ] The worst that could happen is victoria’s security throws us out on our butts and it would be really awkward.

Jack: Yeah, that would be bad.

Phyllis: Yeah.

Jack: Yeah, well, just don’t be pessimistic. Put on your pretty dress, get ready for the cocktail party, and let’s hope everyone gets along.

Phyllis: Yeah.

[ Cellphones chirp ] Ohh! I don’t want bad news.

Jack: It’s not bad news. Take a look.

Phyllis: Ooh! The wedding pictures from summer and kyle’s wedding. She is stunning. They look so happy. Wow. You know, somebody may call me biased, but, uh, ashland and victoria’s splashy affair doesn’t hold a candle to this beautiful, intimate ceremony, even with this whole palazzo backdrop.

Jack: I’m sure both weddings will be perfect… in their own way.

[ Door closes ]

Nick: I’m sorry, but I don’t get it. I don’t know how you two can be supportive of this wedding. And, dad, it wasn’t that long ago that you yourself were looking into ashland’s past. I thought we were on the same page about this. What changed?

Victor: What changed, son, is that ashland confessed, okay? He came clean about his identity.

Nick: He only did that because I confronted him with the truth. He told us half the story, and he left out the part where he left his best friend in the world to die in a burning car. Who the hell does something like that?

Nikki: At that point, he thought his friend was already gone, beyond help.

Nick: I — I don’t know how you can make excuses for him.

Victor: Son, let’s put an end to this. I’m very appreciative of the fact that you are concerned about your sister’s well-being. But kindly let this go now, alright? Accept her decision. That’s it.

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Nikki: Nicholas came here because he wants to make peace. You should hear him out, darling.

Victor: That alright with you, my sweetheart?

Victoria: It’s fine. There’s nothing that nicholas can say or do that’s going to upset me more than I already am.

Victor: You two work it out, okay?

Victoria: Okay, nicholas. I hope that you’re not going to try to tell me that I need to stop this wedding again because that’s definitely not going to happen.

Victor: [ Sighs heavily ] I’m afraid nicholas won’t let this go. The last thing I want him to do is to ruin this special day for our daughter.

Nikki: I understand why you’re worried, but I believe that nicholas will put his sister’s happiness first.

Victor: I only hope you’re right.

Nikki: Believe me. I was very upset when I heard that she had disinvited him, but I have to respect that. My biggest concern right now is that nicholas doesn’t yet know of ashland’s latest surprise.

Victor: Sweetheart, the fewer people know about this, the better, okay?

Nikki: [ Sighs ] Well, this last confession of his was atrocious. Forging your mentor’s will? If nicholas learns about that before the ceremony, it will only add fuel to his fire.

Victor: Sweetheart, the most important thing is that victoria has made peace with ashland. She’s okay with it, alright? That’s what’s important. The other secret needs to stay buried, and I will see to it that it does.

Nick: I promise you I’m not here to try to and stop your wedding.

Victoria: Right. You call it showing your concern, but your goal is the same.

Nick: Look, I get where you’re coming from, and I hate it that this has come between us. It was never my intention to betray you.

Victoria: But that’s exactly what you did.

Nick: Vick, I swear to you, i was hoping that I wouldn’t find anything shady about ashland.

Victoria: But you did. And then you just couldn’t let it go.

Nick: Because I’m worried about you. But I’ve had a lot of time to think about it, okay? And I guess I can understand… why ashland would work so hard to keep, you know, a painful memory a secret.

Victoria: But you still judge him for what he did.

Nick: Look, if me telling you the truth doesn’t make you change your mind about marrying this guy, I’m not gonna try and convince you otherwise. I have to respect your decision. Now, I’m not gonna tell you that I like it or that I’m ever gonna be able to trust this guy.

Victoria: Oh, that’s — that’s really very funny since you have completely destroyed my trust in you. You showed no regard for my feelings or for my wishes. How am I ever supposed to confide in you again?

Nick: All I can say is that i truly believed I was acting in your best interest. I don’t want to break this trust that we have. But I need you to know, vick, that I would never do anything to hurt you on purpose.

Victoria: Your apology doesn’t even begin to make up for what you did.

Nick: So, you’re saying you can’t even forgive me a little bit? It’s your wedding day. Now I’d really like to be here for my sister.

Ashland: [ Coughing ]

[ Gasping ]

[ Coughing ]

[ Breathing heavily ]

[ Coughs ]

Billy: Looks like you could use some help.

Ashland: [ Coughs ]

Billy: What can I do?

Ashland: [ Breathing heavily ] Need long-lasting freshness?

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Nick: Vick, I won’t say another word about ashland, alright? If you’re willing to put his past behind you, I’ll do the same.

Victoria: I appreciate the effort that you’re making, but i can tell that you’re still holding back about how you really feel about my fiancé. And that is the last thing that I need the day before my wedding. That being said, while I don’t forgive you, I won’t tell you to go, either.

Nick: What does that even mean?

Victoria: Our parents want us to be happy. They want this to be a celebration of family harmony. So, if you want to stick around for the reception and the wedding, that’s your choice.

Nick: So, you’ll let me stay for their sake?

Victoria: Dad gave me this palazzo as a wedding gift, and i am gonna make this a happy event for him. And you know how mom gets when we’re not getting along.

Nick: It’s your wedding. Your opinion is the only one that matters to me. Do you want me at this ceremony or not?

Victoria: Look, my focus is gonna be completely on ashland. If you happen to be in the crowd, I doubt I’ll even notice it.

Nick: [ Scoffs ] It’s not even an invitation, is it?

Victoria: I told you, you were welcome to come. What more do you expect from me?

Nick: I want to know where things stand with us.

Victoria: I’m not gonna talk with you about where we stand anymore. You hurt me, nicholas. It’s not my job to absolve you or to make you feel better. My only focus now is on ashland and my wedding.

Nick: [ Sighs ]

Billy: I know nate is on the premises. Maybe I should give him a call.

Ashland: That won’t be necessary. I’m fine.

Billy: You don’t look fine, ashland.

Ashland: I could use a glass of water.

[ Coughs ]

[ Breathing deeply ]

Billy: I still think calling nate would be a good idea.

Ashland: [ Coughs ] Thank you. You know, I’m surprised that you had the nerve to show your face. I heard that nikki urged you to, uh, gracefully bow out.

Billy: I think we both knew that that wasn’t gonna happen. I wasn’t gonna miss the most spectacular event of the year.

Ashland: You know, just in case you have any plans to disrupt the wedding, there’s something you should know.

Billy: Okay. Go ahead.

Victor: What the hell are you doing here?

Nikki: So, how did it go with nicholas? Were you two able to resolve your issues?

Victoria: Well, I didn’t kick him out, but I’m not exactly thrilled that he’s here, either.

Nikki: Well, I am. You made the right decision letting him stay.

Victoria: Jack!

Nikki: Oh, you made it!

Victoria: Welcome!

Jack: What a spectacular palazzo, an ideal location for a wedding.

Victoria: Well, I also heard that summer and kyle’s wedding was very special. I wish I had been able to make it.

Jack: It was wonderful, you were missed, but it seemed like you had your hands full.

Victoria: Yes, maybe just a little. But I’m glad that they’ll be coming here so I can congratulate them in person.

Jack: And they’ll be bringing harrison with them.

Victoria: I know. Ashland is so looking forward to seeing his son.

Jack: Well, I happen to know the feeling is mutual. How is ashland doing?

Victoria: My fiancé’s very strong. He’s handling the treatments well.

Jack: Well, it sounds like congratulations are in order all around.

Nikki: Yes, we are on track to have a glorious wedding.

Victoria: Yes, as long as i make sure that everything is under control.

Nikki: Well, it is, darling. You don’t have to do another thing.

Victoria: Well, there are just actually a few more things that I do need to check on.

Jack: Victoria seems a little tense. Everything alright?

Victor: Now, billy boy, knowing you, I’m not a bit surprised that you’re loitering around where you’re not welcome.

Billy: I got an invitation, just like everyone else.

Victor: And you didn’t have the common sense to stay home?

Billy: If you don’t mind, victor, ashland and I are having a private conversation.

Victor: I don’t give a damn. I’m here to talk to the man who’s actually worthy of marrying my daughter.

Billy: Oh, come on. You don’t honestly believe that, do you?

Victor: You bet. Now, for your information, this is my property. I can have you thrown out of the damn place, or you walk out on your own.

Billy: Ashland, we’re not done yet, are we?

Ashland: I’m going to have to agree with my future father-in-law. Victor suggested that you leave the premises. So what are you waiting for? Scoot over.

Nikki: Well, yes, victoria is a little tense, but what bride isn’t? I was a bundle of nerves on our wedding day — both of them, as I recall.

Jack: Who could forget? I understand, though, there’s been a bit of friction between nicholas and victoria. I hope they’re not gonna let it ruin the day.

Nikki: Oh, no. But, uh, I can’t deny there’s has been a little bit of family conflict.

Jack: Well, I think that’s natural. Big event, lots of family. Nerves are bound to be frayed. Believe me. I have been in that situation with my sister more times than i can count. Everything works out in the end. It’s gonna be a stunning wedding.

Nikki: [ Sighs ] Well, the ceremony is small, just those closest to them, but the reception is going to be a much grander celebration.

Nate: Nikki. Jack.

Nikki: Hey, nate!

Jack: Elena! Good to see you.

Elena: Great to see you, jack.

Nikki: I hope you’ve been enjoying yourselves.

Elena: How could we not in a place this beautiful?

Nate: We’ve already visited the neighborhood winery.

Jack: Ooh, I’m gonna add that to my list of things to do.

Elena: [ Laughs ] So, nikki, are you ready for the big day?

Nikki: I think I’ve just about got everything all set.

Elena: [ Laughs ] Well, then you’re doing much better than nate. He’s still struggling with his best man toast.

Nikki: Ohh!

Jack: Wait. Best man? I didn’t know that. In fact, I didn’t know the two of you were close at all.

Nate: Oh, it’s a new friendship, but a strong one.

Jack: Well, ashland is a man of many surprises.

Nikki: Yes, he certainly is.

[ Chuckles ]

Phyllis: Hey! Oh, well, looking at your face, it didn’t go how you wanted it.

Nick: That’s an understatement.

[ Sighs ]

Phyllis: I’m sorry. I know how you wanted everything to work out.

Nick: Well, my sister’s just not in a very forgiving mood.

Phyllis: What about your parents? Can they step in?

Nick: No, they can’t because they’re both firmly on team ashland.

Phyllis: Really? I don’t even get that.

Nick: Yeah, me either. Vick did say I could go to the wedding if I wanted to.

Phyllis: Well, alright, that’s good. I mean, she’s coming around. That should make you feel better.

Nick: No, because her heart wasn’t in it when she asked. She’s just tired of us arguing, so she reluctantly gave in. But she made it very clear that this decision is not an act of forgiveness.

Phyllis: I don’t know why she’s being like this. Honestly, you’ve done everything you could, you know? You apologized. You were just trying to help her.

Nick: Well, it hasn’t done a damn bit of good because she still is really upset.

Phyllis: You know, I don’t get this. Maybe it’s the bridezilla thing. Maybe she’s just really tense before the wedding. You know what I mean? Because she’s being really, really petty, and she’s treating you like dirt. And I don’t like it.

Nick: Look, my sister has a right to feel the way she does, alright? So don’t use this as another opportunity to start trashing her. This is my battle. I’ll deal with it.

[ Sighs ]

Victoria: Hey, reed, listen. Don’t be sorry. I hate that you can’t make it, too, but I totally understand. Other than missing you, I mean, I’m good. Everything is fine. No. It’s more than fine. It’s — it’s perfection.

Billy: So, I guess whatever you had to say isn’t all that consequential in the grand scheme of things? Well, I will give you two your privacy. Oh, one last thing. Do you know where I can find victoria?

Victor: Billy boy, you’re pressing your luck, okay? You stay away from my daughter. This is her special occasion. I will not have you destroy her happy moments. Do you understand?

Billy: Oh, don’t worry. I won’t be the one to cause the bride any distress.

Victor: Now get out.

Ashland: I caught your look earlier. I hope this is important. I was just about to tell billy that victoria knows all my secrets, including the one that gaines is holding over my head. I was hoping it might undercut his plans to disrupt the wedding.

Victor: I don’t understand why victoria invited him in the first place, especially given the information I just received from adam.

Ashland: Another complication?

Victor: [ Sighs ] The chartered flight that billy was on apparently had another passenger.

Ashland: Lily, I would assume.

Victor: No. She’s flying separately with my grandchildren.

Ashland: So, who was with billy?

Victor: Jesse gaines.

Ashland: [ Sighs heavily ]

Victor: The description that I was given of him fit him perfectly, okay? And he’s the only other one who knows about your crime, ashland.

Ashland: [ Sighs ] Yawns “okay okay, I’m up, I’m up!”

Elena: Wow. Everything about this place is incredible. The rolling hills, the majestic views. It’s breathtaking.

Nate: I second that.

Nikki: This place has always held a special spot in my heart. Victor and I have had many romantic holidays here.

Jack: You can almost feel the magic of tuscany in the air.

Nikki: Perfect for a wedding.

Phyllis: Listen, I know it’s your battle. I’m just in the trenches with you. I just wanted you to know that. I’m trying to help. I’m not trying to trash victoria. That’s not what I’m trying to do. I just want you to know that you’re not the one who’s wrong in any of this.

Nick: I just — I feel bad, you know? All I wanted to do was help my sister, but all I have done is hurt her. And I don’t want to do that anymore. I certainly don’t want to cast a shadow over her wedding by staying here.

Phyllis: Seriously? Are we leaving?

Nick: [ Sighs ]

Ashland: How did billy abbott get his hands on jesse gaines?

Victor: I don’t know. But you and I will have to think about this rationally. We have to handle him.

Ashland: Well, how did he make it to italy without you knowing?

Victoria: What’s going on?

Billy: Gaines, time to get ready. Gaines.

[ Sighs ] Damn it.

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mr. Corbin? Dr. Navarro. How is — how — how are they, um…? Come in and see for yourself. Looks like we’re good. Yeah? W-we as in both? Both me and the baby, brando. We’re all good. Shawn: Alexis.

[ Sighs ] I’m sorry. I’m just worried about nikolas. He told me that spencer was the one stalking ava. Spencer? Mm. Well, that explains how he got past security at wyndemere. It’s his home. It’s really taken its toll on nikolas. I can imagine. No one can blame spencer for acting out, really. I mean, nikolas wasn’T… always the best role model. He’s not perfect, but he’s also good. You know, he went up against cyrus renault in order to keep me safe at pentonville. He’s got a good heart. Which is a real trick when you’re brought up in the reptile cage that is my family. Sorry. For what? For going on about the cassadines. I-I doubt very much that you came here to talk about nikolas. I’m sneaking up on you. Why are you announcing it? ‘Cause after months of being stalked by my son, I figured you’d rather not be surprised.

[ Chuckles ] Fair point. Took your advice. Tried to find spencer. Ran into trina’s mom instead. What did she have to stay? Quite a lot. She’s a tough lady. She is, indeed. Never found spencer, though. Actually, you just missed him. H-he was here, spencer, looking for you. Phyllis! Hello, nina. Hi. Um… what are you doing here in port charles? I came to see, well…

[ Chuckles lightly ] Sonny. Still not used to that name. I returned some of his things, and I met his wife. I also wanted to see you. But you’re busy. Maybe I should come back some other time. Hey. Hi. Hold all my calls.

[ Receiver clatters ] Okay. Let me have it. Sonny: A lot has happened since nixon falls. Yes, it has. And some things never change. You and carly…

[ Chuckles ] Yeah, we’re a family. Believe it or not, I actually want carly to be happy. Do you? I do. Mm. I want nina to be happy, too. Good luck with that. Yeah, there seems to be an obstacle in my way. I’m looking at him. Oh, I was hoping jax would be in the office by now. What’s the nature of my call? Well, I was hoping to discuss aurora media and the future of crimson magazine. Can you just tell him to call me back as soon as he gets in the office? Thank you. Look, I know what you’re gonna say. That if I target nina, I’m gonna make her out to be the victim. I don’t care. Nina’s gonna pay.

You two feel about your birthing classes? Great. Why? Do I need to do something over? You could not have been better or more supportive. She’s right. No do-overs for you. All that’s left is a tour of the delivery room and the nursery. I-I mean, I know my way around a garage, but a delivery room? I…uh, the classes were great, but does anything really prepare you? This will actually help. Once you see the delivery room and get a feel for it, you’ll find it’s not nearly as intimidating as you might imagine. Plus, we get to see all those babies in the nursery. I’ll go and arrange it.

[ Sighs ] It’s really happening. There’s still time for you to bail.

[ Laughs ] Never. We are in this together. You, me, and the baby makes three. Gladys: Make that four. Actually, this thing between nikolas and spencer has got me thinking about me and tj. Well, you two are in a lot better shape than spencer and nikolas. Unless there’s something you’re not telling me. No, no, we’re good. Great, even. I am sorry nikolas is having a tough time with his son. But he and spencer have time to make it right. Mm. I lost a lot of years with tj I’ll never get back. Yeah, I know. But the only direction is to move forward, yes? Alright, so tell me — what’s going on with the hayden shooting? Any new leads? So, my son realized he has to atone for the harm he’s caused, especially the pain he caused you. I wouldn’t go that far. Okay. Spencer — he’s a cassadine, he has pride, but at least he wants to meet me halfway. Right? Ava? Well… spencer came out here again after I kicked him out. He must have been genuinely remorseful. A little remorseful? That was my hope, as well. Especially because trina was here. And no matter what spencer thinks of me, I know that he admires trina, and I was hoping that — that her opinion would still matter to him. But… but what? What happened? I know I have no right to say this, but, phyllis, I’ve… I’ve really missed you so much. I miss you, too. This is a nice office. Mm. Nice view. Well, when I have a chance to look at it. All the fashion and excitement. It must be so glamorous. It has its moments. It makes me wonder why you ever left. Well, phyllis, you know why I left. Because you were hurting. Jax, a man you loved and trusted, had kept your daughter’s identity from you, siding with the woman you blame for her death. And that betrayal broke my heart. To think that the little girl I took to her adoptive family all those years ago… met such a tragic ending. Yeah, when I met nelle, it was too late to raise her, but maybe I could have… helped her. I’ll never know. And you made sonny’s wife suffer in return. You felt she took away your daughter, so you took away her husband. How does that feel now? It doesn’t feel great.

[ Chuckling ] Phyllis, you know, revenge isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be. It just ends up hurting you more. Well, then. If you know that, then maybe your time in nixon falls wasn’t a waste. No, it was not a waste. Despite everything, I wouldn’t trade my time in nixon falls for anything. The chance to get to know lenny and you. Not only us. You got to know… …someone else, too. Sonny: Nina made the choices she made. If she doesn’t like the way it turned out, then she only has to blame herself. Look, I am not defending nina or trying to justify what she did, sonny, but…

[ Sighs ] …You lived an entirely different life for the better part of a year. Mm-hmm. No corinthos organization, no territory to — to control or defend. No rival families. Mm-hmm. You were mike, and people cared about you and respected you not because you were sonny corinthos. I mean, how can you not be changed by that? I never said I wasn’T. My point is you have the power to be generous here, okay? Right. You can give nina the chance to come out of this better than she went in. I mean, can’t you find it in your heart to — to give her that chance? Why would I? Because you have your memory back. You have your wife and your family again. Yeah, the family that nina took from me. As I understand it, she gave you something, too — her heart. What would you do if you were me? Let nina get away with it? Let her sit in her office and hide in my hotel? Look, I understand you wanting nina to pay, but not if it costs you more than it costs her. Oh, it won’T. It won’T. Well, you — you don’t know that, carly. Nina was lying the whole time she was in nixon falls, keeping sonny’s existence a secret even from sonny. And what did that crazy bitch do when she came to town? She went to my grandson! Okay. So, why — why are you involving jax? Because I want nina to know what it feels like to lose something she loves, the way she took sonny from us.

Mom, you’re here. Why? Now, what kind of greeting is that fofofor the grandmother-to-be? You just happen to be at the hospital while sasha and i had our appointment? As a matter of fact, I had a follow-up. Making sure everything is okay with my wound. From when I took a bullet for you.

[ Chuckles ] You didn’t exactly throw yourself between me and a hail of gunfire. And — and how did you know where we were? Oh, you left your phone unlocked on the kitchen table. You should really be more careful with that. Yeah, you’re telling me. Gladys. Brando told me he sent you on a spa day. How was it?

[ Sighs ] A — a momentary respite from the horrors I experienced from jason and carly’s wedding. I mean, when I think that I might have been in that car with vincent novak when he and what’s-his-name were blown to smithereens, I can’t even — but you weren’T. But I could have been. Yeah, but you weren’T. And everything’s okay now, so… by “everything”… are you referring to cousin sonny? Rumor has it he’s alive. Is it true? Yes, ma. Sonny is alive and well. That’s wonderful. If only someone had called to tell me.

[ Chuckles ] That’s fine, though. Um… I’m sure everyone was so excited to see sonny that I was the last person on anyone’s mind.

[ Sighs ] All I can say is, though, hallelujah!

[ Chuckles ] Who says miracles don’t happen anymore? Well, we think our baby is a miracle. Oh, sure. Sure, sure. Yeah. But, um — but with sonny back at the wheel, brando doesn’t have to stay another minute in that garage. You can write your own ticket and ride it to the top, son. You haven’t heard a word I’ve said. About sonny or about me. You know, after we talked yesterday, you got me thinking about your uncle, victor cassadine, and how he was mixed up with crichton-clark. Now, jordan’s lead was a record-keeper. Drew could have also beenanother victim, since he was held captive at crichton-clark. Well, victor couldn’t have anything to do with hayden’s shooting, since he was already dead by then. So the cassadines couldn’t have been involved. Victor couldn’T. But what if we picked the wrong cassadine? Before I spoke to spencer, I left him alone with trina. I-I was hoping that she could talk some sense into him. Clearly, she didn’T.

[ Sighs ] Well, spencer doesn’t feel any remorse, because according to him, nobody got hurt. As if he didn’t cause sheer terror or use kiki’s memory against me or — or watch as I planned to leave the country without avery. It was all just harmless pranks to him. Unfortunately, I think I know where he gets that attitude. I wasn’t having any of it, of course. And I told him that his — his plan to break us up failed miserably. We’re back together. Still together. Better than ever. Yeah, that’s right. Because nothing he or anyone else can do will ever come between us. So, how did he take it? Mm… not well. Lenny was never one to leave photos on his camera. And I used to put together photo albums as a hobby, the old-fashioned way. You can keep those if you want them. No, no. Thank you, though. It’s just I have to find a way to forget about mike. Like he never existed, which… I guess he didn’T. Except we both know he did. Mike was real, nina. I don’t care what anyone says. Even sonny. It was mike, not sonny, who made lenny’s last days better, and all the days before that while he was with us at the tan-O. I knew who he really was the whole time, and I kept quiet. Initially, it was because I wanted to hurt carly. But then it was because I fell… well, there was a time between wanting to hurt sonny’s wife and falling in love with mike. Why not speak up then? Because m– s-sonny was so happy. You’re so kind. And I-I repaid that kindness by lying to you, and I am so sorry it cost you the tan-O. The tan-o! This place that you and lenny loved. You shared so much of your life there, and I am so sorry. And I told you after the fire, a building is just stuff. It’s people who matter. Yeah. I wish I could see the world the way you do. It’s just too late for me now. It’s never too late, nina. Isn’t mike’s li– sonny’s life proof of that?

[ Sighs ] Sonny: I can’t help nina. I gotta — I gotta focus on my life and my family. I was being honest when I said that I’m happy for you and carly, if for no other reason than it makes josslyn happy. You know, it was actually josslyn who led me back to nixon falls to find you. Josslyn? How does that happen? It seems that your pasta sauce is quite memorable. Uh, trina picked up some at the tan-o, she passed it on to josslyn, and josslyn said it tasted exactly like yours. And that’s what got me thinking. When I was shot… yeah? When I stopped the robbery in nixon falls, I thought I saw you right before they loaded me into the ambulance. Now, of course, I told myself that I was probably hallucinating. So, did — did, uh, you tell yourself that, or did nina tell you that? Look, the point is, when josslyn recognized the sauce, I-I-I just thought that it must have been you that I — that I saw. And you know the rest. Alright, well, remind me to give you a case of that pasta sauce. No, really… no, you don’t need to — no, no. Listen. You did find me. I owe you. And I always pay my debts. If you punish nina,it’s not gonna give you back all the time that you lost with sonny. Don’t you think I know that?

[ Chuckles ] And it’s — it’s not gonna make her lose anybody that she cares about. Well, that’s impossible, because nina doesn’t care about anyone but herself. And wiley. Do you think michael and willow will continue allowing nina to see wiley? Oh, even they can’t be that forgiving.

[ Scoffs ] Sonny doesn’t want me to go to war with nina. Carly, you have more important things to do. Yeah, I know. I need to sit down with sonny and tell him what we were feeling on our wedding day.

[ Sighs ] And I’m so afraid because I don’t want things to change between the three of us.

I told you once,I’ve told you a million times. I helped sonny with cyrus renault. That’s over. I’m out. I’m sorry, brando. Forgive me for only thinking of what’s best for you and your new family. If you want what’s best for me and my family, why would you want me anywhere near sonny’s world? What is so wrong with sonny’s world? You were just complaining about how in that world, you go to weddings in limos and you come home in little pieces. Please tell my son that I’ve come back from the spa refreshed and with a new attitude. If getting held at gunpoint by cyrus renault didn’t change your attitude, why would a massage and facial?

[ Scoffs ] Fine. Believe whatever you want, but I’m actually glad my son is no longer part of that violent world. If you really mean that, mom — of course I mean it! Then why are you pressuring me into working with sonny? Because he also has legitimate businesses. Lucrative ones. Well, everybody drinks coffee. And there’s that resort island, right? I-I think that’s still his. You — you can do better than the garage! But I like the garage. Like more. Like better. And remember, sonny owes you for all the time you were helping keep his family together at risk to your own life. That’s not even remotely true. And has dear, un-departed cousin sonny even bothered to say thank you? Okay, sasha, would you excuse us, please? Go right ahead. Come on, ma, let’s go. Good. Now we can talk. No, ma. I will talk. You will listen. What do you mean, the wrong cassadine? We both agree your family fingerprints are all over this. Yeah. I mean, as much as I’d like it to be victor, he was blown to bits. And the cassadines are resilient. However, an explosion like that, even for a cassadine, that might be hard to resurrect from. Well, victor’s not the only cassadine who’s made a return trip from the great beyond. So has nikolas. Nikolas: I’ll talk to spencer. Maybe I’ll even ask him to come home. If I can be the father that he needs, maybe he can be the man he’s meant to be. Don’t forget about the little pyromaniac that torched my car. Allegedly at his behest. You’re not buying it? Well, whether it was spencer’s idea or not, esme went through with it. And she left kiki’s I.D. Badge, which is just sadistic. I won’t argue with you there. Spencer is clearly under her spell. It’S…first love, first lust. He’ll outgrow it, and when he grows up a little and he sees what real love is — the kind we have — maybe he’ll stop fighting us. I hope so. Someday. The way I see it, if spencer can make the effort to see me, I can go to him. I’ll try to meet him halfway. Oh, you — uh, you might want to talk to a lawyer first. Why do I need a lawyer? You don’T. But spencer does. I always knew that it was gonna blow up in my face. I did. How could it not?

[ Chuckles ] And now, despite my many machinations, sonny’s back with carly as if nothing happened. As if we never happened. Maybe that’s my penance, phyllis. Sonny — he gets to move on, he gets to leave what we had in nixon falls behind. And me, I get to… stand in this beautiful office with this beautiful view and remember everything. Nobody’s asking you to forget, nina. If your time with mike really meant something, if it helped you heal the wounds that took you to nixon falls in the first place, don’t you owe it to him to honor that? To leave sonny to enjoy the life he’s chosen? When I saw mike today… …I didn’t give him everything. I’ve got something else that belongs to him.

[ Gasps ] Before the fire, before I got my memory back, we were talking at the overlook, and I had thrown my father’s watch in the river to forget my past. Yeah, I remember trying to warn you. Yeah. Thing about the past, you can run from it, you can even hide for a little while, but eventually, it always catches up with you. For once, I should have listened to you. Yeah, maybe. But I figured, you know, you had to find out your own way. Well, now I know you were just looking out for her. And that’s exactly what I’m doing now, sonny. If you ever had feelings for nina, recognize the good in her, despite the wrong she did. Find a way to let go of your anger and — and just walk away. Carly: Do you think he’ll understand?

[ Sighs ] I mean, he’s your husband. He’s my best friend. I know. But it would be one thing if we were getting married to save the business, but by the time we said our wedding vows, it was more. I mean, sonny knows we thought he was dead. I mean, I think — I think he’s gonna understand.

[ Voice breaking ] We were without him for nine months. And he was without us, and… I mean, he didn’t even remember us, you know? So what if the person that sonny became — what if this man, this bartender, mike — what if it’s changed sonny? It doesn’t seem like he’s changed. Maybe “changed” is the wrong word. You know, I just, um… sonny has these experiences that I — I don’t share. I don’t know anything about them. It’s just one more thing that nina took from me — the certainty of who my husband is. Carly, nine months is a long time. There’s gonna be gaps. You’re gonna feel awkward sometimes. Okay? But the only way past it is to go through it. Ugh! You have to face it and deal with it. Jason. I know. But just start new memories together. Yeah. Okay. I mean, we talked a lot last night. W-we were talking a lot last night, and — and I asked him, “why didn’t you tell me that nina knew you were in nixon falls?” And he’s like, “I just didn’t want you going after her and doing all that stuff.” And I have to say that when I woke up this morning, revenge was the furthest thing from my mind. Was it? Yes, because sonny’s alive. And he’s my husband, and I love him.

I saw sonny today, and he thanked me for looking out for his family. He also offered me a job.

[ Laughs ] Why didn’t you say so?!

[ Gasps ] When do you start? I don’t! I’m glad that sonny is back with carly and their family. But I got a family of my own now, and I made it clear to him and I made it clear to sasha that I want to find my own way without help from sonny. In the garage he gave you. That is payment for keeping dev’s secret. A secret that you blew when you told cyrus renault. When are you gonna stop throwing that in my face? Dev was like a grandson to me. I know, I know. Hey. You got a new grandchild on the way. But am I even gonna be part of that child’s life? You keep pushing me away. Is there a place for me in your new family or not? Knock it off, ma. I love you. I always will. But I know who you are, and I know how you operate. You want to keep picking at sonny and pissing him off? Be my guest. But I’m not gonna have any part of that. Are we clear? Excuse me, mr. Corbin. If you and sasha are ready for that tour… yes, we’re more than ready. We’re finished here, right, mom? You think I’m wrong about nikolas? I don’t like that you think nikolas had anything to do with it at all.

[ Sighs ] And what I like even less is that I’m not dismissing the possibility. Why do you suspect nikolas? After I saw you yesterday, I spoke with jax. You may recall when he and hayden returned to port charles and they both worked with nikolas. I remember. And I’m also sure you remember that years prior, nikolas and hayden were married. Yes, I know. And e-everyone knows that they didn’t really get along, but they were working together to bring valentin down. You know, enemies of my enemies. They were. Until she disappeared without a trace. Why do you think nikolas had anything to do with hayden’s disappearance? I didn’t say that. Nikolas did. You had my son arrested?! Spencer left me with no other choice. He made it very clear that he would not stop until we were broken up. And I-I can’t take any chances, not when avery’s involved. But you were the one that said we could find a way to forgive. Well, spencer and you. I didn’t say anything about me. We are the adults. We can be the bigger people. I tried that. I did. I-I wanted to forgive spencer. But there is another side of that coin — repentance! And he didn’t just terrorize me. He brought my little girl into it. He never would have hurt avery. Maybe not intentionally, but he could have pulled some stunt and she could have ended up collateral damage. Spencer needs to learn there are consequences for his actions! You are right, and I failed him in that concern. So you keep saying. Now is the time to do something about it. Like putting him behind bars? Well, the only reason I did that, to be perfectly blunt — I need him to learn to not mess with me. Yeah. I-I can respect that. You can? You’re not mad? I don’t love it. But I get it. Well! Thank you. At the same time, alexis convinced me to be a better father to my son, to make a difference in his life. The sooner, the better. Uh-huh. But how am I supposed to do that when my son is behind bars? Phyllis: I found it on the river walk near lenny’s favorite fishing spot. The watch! Sonny’s one link to his past. That’s why he tossed it away. He was saying goodbye to whoever he was and wherever he came from. All that mattered was his future with you.

[ Exhales sharply ] Well, for what it’s worth, at least in that moment, he chose me. Even though I didn’t deserve it. Sonny: Nina’s the one who can’t let go. Truth is, she shouldn’t have come to port charles. She should’ve stayed in nixon falls and started a new life. Like you did? Well, like I did, but my life’s here. The one that nina tried to take from me. I am not trying to ask you to forget what nina did. Okay, but you have your life back now. So whatever — whatever happened between you and nina, the good and the bad, leave it in nixon falls where it belongs. Appreciate it. Okay. I’m happy for you.

[ Sighs ] And for sonny. Hey, look, you guys — you guys should be together. And now that you are, all the more reason to put nina behind you. Oh. I don’t know how to do that.

[ Scoffs ] I keep… I keep watching sonny and I keep thinking, is the sonny that came back the sonny that I’ve always known? Is it my sonny? Carly, it’s — it’s sonny. For nine months, we thought he was dead. You thought you were gonna spend the rest of your life without him, and now he’s home. Whatever happened in nixon falls, it doesn’t matter. Now you sound like sonny.

[ Chuckles ]

[ Cellphone rings ]

[ Sighs, sniffles ] Jax, I’ve been waiting to hear from you.

[ Babies fussing ] You know, dr. Navarro was right. After seeing the delivery room, I think we can do this. Famous last words from the father.

[ Laughs ]

[ Chuckles ] Hey. I honor and respect you for doing all the hard work, and I just want you to know I’m gonna be right there to support you. And on the bright side, after it’s all over, we get one of those. Yeah. Makes it all worthwhile, doesn’t it? Sure does. When jax confronted him, nikolas admitted he turned up the heat on hayden to force her to leave town. That doesn’t mean nikolas was responsible for hayden’s shooting years before. True, and the fact that they worked together after means either she didn’t know or she figured somehow to forgive him. Okay, let me play devil’s advocate. How does any of this connect nikolas to all of the insanity that went down at crichton-clark? Maybe it doesn’T. Alright? Maybe he was only involved in hayden’s shooting. Or maybe none of it. Look, all I have are pieces that may or may not fit together. Jax said you would want to hear the truth. Now I’ve told you. Who else are you gonna share your suspicions with? That depends on you. You have been an incredible friend to me. You and your family are a big reason I’m walking around. It was our pleasure. I care about you, my friend. And I owe you big time. So… you just say the word, and I’ll drop this whole thing. How do you guide spencer while he’s in jail? Well, you go and visit him. It’s not like he can go anywhere. And once I get there? The only way to reach spencer is to show him that he can’t escape what he’s done. So, please, under no circumstances, nikolas, can you — I-I won’T. I won’t bail him out. And don’t let that esme bail him out either. He needs to just sit there. He needs to reach rock bottom. You know, that’s the only way you’ll be able to reach a meaningful hand out to help him. Tough love. Yeah. Spencer needs to realize… that he needs you, he needs your love. He needs his father. Until he realizes that, this cycle is just gonna keep going, and you can’t let it. That cannot happen. For spencer’s sake — for ours — it’s got to stop. Now. Yes, jax, I wanted to talk to you about crimson. Never mind. Um, you know what? You can run your business without my two cents. No, no, no, I’m open to input, in the spirit of mutual cooperation. It — it was an idea. Okay? It was just an idea I had, but it was a bad idea. Did you just admit to having a bad idea? Yes, jax, I did. Okay? Goodbye. Nina’s off limits — for now. Why didn ‘t you give sonny backhis watch when you saw him? I thought it might bring back too many painful memories. Maybe I should have left it where he dropped it. Listen, you always make the right decisions. It’s frustrating.

[ Chuckles ] I’ll make sure he gets it.

What did you say to your mother? Oh, I just established some ground rules. I think this time she got the message. Ah! Oh! Oh, look at that one! He’s as bald as a basketball.

[ Laughs ] Oh. How likely do you think it is that nikolas had hayden shot?

[ Sighs ] That likely, huh? If I’m right, is that something you think you can live with knowing? I’ve spent my whole life and — and a career, when I still had one, seeking justice. A terrible injustice was done to you, and you deserve justice. And it would be hypocritical of me to not let you get that. No matter where it leads? No matter where it leads. Nikolas: I know you’re right. Spencer — he has to own his mistakes. Otherwise, he will never learn, he’ll never change, and he has to change. If spencer learns his lesson — no matter how painful it is — he has the chance to walk out of that jail a better man. A man more like his father. Alexis: Think about what I said.

I believe in you.

[ Sighs ] Oh. You made the right decision. Doesn’t feel like it. Well, because you’re not used to it. I’m not used to making the right decisions? No, you’re not used to letting things go. Because it goes against every instinct I have. What kind of message am I sending nina by letting her get away with this, I mean, what she did to my family? I think nina knows that you’re not okay with this. If nina stays the hell away from me and my family, then maybe we can avoid a war. I’ll leave you two to talk. Remember the mike in you. Be kind.

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alexis: How you doing? Shouldn’t that be my line? Ava stopped here on the way out of town. Sorry. You’re probably heartbroken, huh? Ava didn’t leave town. We’re back together. Oh, that’s good, isn’t it? Got my wife back, but I lost my son in the process. Esme. What’s wrong? Something happen with spencer? Esme: Spence is okay. As okay as he can be, considering he just lost his father and his best friends. Spencer: What are you doing here? Visiting my friend. Better question is, what are you doing here? I’m looking for my father. He isn’t home. My mistake. So you admit you make them. When it comes to my dad, yeah. But not when it comes to me. No. How can you say that to ava after everything you’ve done to her? It’s more complicated than that. It’s really not. Forget it. I’m out of here. Trina, wait. It’s good to see you, sonny. It’s good to be back. Yeah, when I heard the news… something else, right?

[ Laughs ]

[ Chuckles ] You, uh — you were definitely missed. Thanks. Listen, jason told me about the situation with renault. Yeah, just another day at the office. But in all seriousness, I was glad to help the family. Family is everything. It’s about to get bigger. How’s that? I’m gonna be a father.

[ Laughs ]

[ Exhales sharply ]

[ Knock on door ] Yeah, come in. Good news. Hey. Okay, tell me. This study shows the cross-promotion not only boosted deception sales, but also crimson circulation. Oh, that’s great news. Yeah, I guess I should have said great news. Alright. You didn’t have to deliver this yourself

and in person, so…what’s up? There is something I need to say to you. Are you ready for some radical honesty? I am if you are. So what do you want to be so honest about? Jason. Thanks for meeting me. Absolutely. I assume this is about hayden. How’s the investigation going? I’ve hit some roadblocks. Yeah, I heard that her mother was murdered right after you and sam spoke with her, right? It can’t be a coincidence. Okay, so how does this circle back to me?

I want to congratulate you and sasha. Happy for you. Brando: Thanks. Starting a family is a big deal. Yeah, yeah, I’m getting that sense. So you’re gonna need a job, you know, a good salary. I can work out something at the warehouse if you want. Thanks, sonny, really. But I’m — I’m out of the business. You are? Yeah. Sasha and I just want a quiet life with our baby. I’m a little surprised. I mean, you were so intent on being part of the organization. Is sasha pressuring you to leave? I was shocked when I heard you’d known that sonny was alive for months. Yeah, I’m sure you were. Watching that family grieve, especially michael — I know what I did was unforgivable, and you can tell me what you think of me. Go ahead. I can take it. Here, let me get you started. You think that I was cruel, that I was unfeeling? I think that you were in pain. And I think that you made a mistake, one that you will regret for the rest of your life. I wish I didn’t, but I know what that feels like. Cameron: Spencer’s dad cut him off. Emotionally and financially. Oh. Well, I guess that’s not too surprising, but still… it’s awful. So where are you guys staying? Nowhere at the moment. Well, I’m sure you two will figure it out. You and spencer are nothing if not resourceful. Cameron: Joss. No. I deserved that. Can I ask you something? Sure. Why are you here? You made it pretty clear that you blame us for sonny confronting nikolas, which I think is pretty funny considering you’re the one who told sonny nikolas was taking off with avery. I’m sorry. For which part? All of it. But try and put yourself in my position. Seeing my boyfriend in so much pain, it was torture, so I lashed out at you. And I shouldn’t have. Cameron’s been great talking me down. Yeah, well, that’s cameron. He’s pretty great. He said he could forgive me and spence. What about you? Alexis: What’s wrong with spencer? It’s not the stalker, is it? Spencer is the stalker. No. Yes. Are you sure? He admitted it. Wow. I thought you were wrong. Guess it was me who was wrong. Spencer? I still can’t understand how my son was capable of such cruelty. He’s different, alexis. Colder. I wonder why. Maybe it’s because of you. Spencer: Can we go somewhere and talk? I have no interest in going anywhere with you. Then would you mind, please, giving us some privacy? It depends. Trina, would you like privacy? I guess I’ll hear him out. Okay. I have a phone call to make. I won’t be far. Holler if you need me. Thanks, ava. Do you want to sit? No. What did ava say to you to make you so angry? Ava didn’t say anything to me, spencer. You’re the one that makes me angry. But I thought that we might be on better terms after my apology. You call that an apology? Nuh-unh. You’re gonna have to up your game. I’m not implying you had anything to do with naomi’s murder. Well, I’m glad I’m not on the suspect list. I just found myself stuck, trying to figure out who shot hayden, so I’m reviewing everything I know so far. Hoping something gets you unstuck. Exactly. Well, I’m at your disposal. Okay. So when sam and i spoke to you last, you said we should talk to nikolas cassadine. I remember. Was he no help? Nikolas claimed he had nothing to add. You think he’s lying? If there’s a link between naomi dreyfus’ murder and drew’s disappearance, then sam’s investigation just got a bit more dangerous. Well, I can see why that might concern you. This somehow leads back to the cassadines. It always does. So we need to figure out how before even more people get killed. Let’s just say someone just recently reminded me what the cassadines are capable of. Everything I said to you that day at the hospital, it was a bunch of crap. I just wanted you to let go. Of jason? Yeah. I mean, for your own sake. And I knew jason wouldn’t do it, so I had to. What — what are you… so you lied? Yeah.

So you and jason don’t love each other. Of course we love each other, but that’s not why we got married. It was a business situation. Carly, do you think I’m stupid? No. Jason was on the run. You went to some business meeting because you had to fill in for him, and then he went back and saved your life. I was there in the room taking a bullet out of his side. Of course this was about the business. And then it became about more. Jason and I thought sonny was dead, obviously, so if we were going to be married, we wanted it to be real. Real? Wha– real. All the bells and whistles. A true husband and wife. And… we were happy. Well, this is gonna sound snarky, but I actually mean it. It must have been hard when sonny came home. But he is home, and that’s all that matters. Jason and i are processing, but we both know what we want. Which is? For things to go back to the way they were. . If part of going back is… trying to make things okay with me and jason, I’m sorry, that’s not gonna happen. It was sasha who was concerned about the danger, but we’re a team, so I couldn’t just ignore it. And let’s be real, it’s not like she was wrong. No, she’s — yeah, I get it. So in the end, we came to a decision together. And now my focus is on making the garage a success. You’re gonna be great. Life’s crazy, isn’t it? And all the — all the twists and turns. You know, if you would’ve asked me a few months ago what I thought it would be like… it wouldn’t be this? No.

[ Laughs ] Not then. Unh-unh. But now… the idea of putting in an honest day’s work and coming home to the people I love… yeah, it just feels right. There are perks to the simple life. Yeah, but it’s not for everyone. I mean, take you, for instance. Your life is anything but simple. Thank you for being so kind. I don’t deserve it, but… it means the world. Well, now that I am about to be a mom, it’s really sunk in, you know? How horribly wrong I was to pretend to be your daughter. If this child was taken from me somehow, I can’t even imagine. But you can, and that is because of me, and I am so sorry, nina. You are gonna be a fantastic mother. I hope so. I know so.

[ Chuckles ] Well, if that is true, then it is in large part because of you. It may not have been real, but you showed me what it looked like to be a kind and loving mother. And even after you knew what I had done, when you should have despised me, you still showed me compassion. Nina, I — I mean it. If it was not for you and carly, I might still be on drugs right now. No, I don’t know about that. Carly was the one who sat me down and gave it to me straight, and then you reached out and you really cared, and that changed everything for me. Maybe you and carly aren’t as far apart as you think. Maybe we weren’t then, but… we certainly are now. You got to remember, I wasn’t living in port charles when hayden was shot. I’m actually more interested of your impression of hayden and nikolas when you three were working together right before she disappeared. Impression of their relationship? Oh, it was contentious, to say the least. But nikolas was in a bad place back then. You know, he was completely unpredictable. I mean, the fact that he scared hayden so badly that she left town? Oh, hold on. Nikolas was the reason hayden left town? Sorry, this is my fault? Of course it is. And you know that, which is why you came here to talk to your aunt alexis because you know that I’ll tell you how it is. And how is it, alexis? Nikolas, you let your son believe you were dead. I mean, I get that you you wanted the cassadine fortune, but that can’t trump your relationship with your own son. You hurt him. Yeah, and he hurt me right back. Spencer was always into pranks, but this one really is on a whole new level. Yeah, you think? Does he know the gravity of what he’s done?

[ Scoffs ] Something ava said stuck with me. You know, we’re not even sure if spencer’s sorry for the acts or just sorry that they didn’t work. I know the pain of feeling like you’ve failed your kid, but you haven’T. Y-you guys will work it out. I don’t want to work it out. No, spencer’s gone from my life because I threw him out. That’s the worst thing you could have done. Cameron, spencer, and i have been friends basically our whole lives. That’s really beautiful. Yeah. So if spencer is truly sorry for what he’s done to everybody, then, yes, I will find a way to forgive him. Life’s too short. That’s all I ask. So are you okay after talking to nina? It was intense, and I’ll fill you in later. Hmm. Talk now. I’m headed inside to grab a coffee anyways. Thank you again.

[ Whispering ] I owe you one. Yeah, it’s no problem.

[ Scoffs ] Wow. Yeah. That girl will say or do anything, won’t she? What? Her whole contrite act, crying on your shoulder out here? I mean, did she really think we’d buy it? You don’t? I’m bad at apologizing. I guess I haven’t done it much in my life. And that’s a start. But you can’t just say you’re bad at something. You actually have to get better. I told you I deserved whatever you threw at me. That’s not the same as actually saying, “I’m sorry.” I am sorry. For what? That I took it this far. And that I let you get caught up in it. You could have stopped when you saw me at the gallery. Trina, the sprinklers were already set to go off. Then you could have taken off your stupid mask. Do you know how scared I was? I thought you were gonna hurt me or worse. So it’s pretty obvious that at no point in your plan did you think of anyone else besides yourself. That’s not true. Sure, it is. There are so many ways you could have played it. You didn’t want me to see your face, fine. Then you could have told me I wasn’t in any danger, but you didn’t because you didn’t care because I was nobody to you.

[ Chuckles ] No. No, you are not nobody.

On is only 18. He comes upwith this elaborate plan to terrorize ava, first in hiding, not telling me he’s back in port charles, but then face-to-face, alexis, unrelenting, even when he saw all of the pain he was causing. He is a true cassadine. Which is exactly why he needs his father right now. What he did is unconscionable. What do you call what you did? I know this is hard for you to hear, but he’s acting just like you, and slamming the door in his face isn’t a solution. He needs guidance, not abandonment. This is no time for you to be turning your back on him. You are the opposite of nobody. I knew that the moment I laid eyes on you. You mean right before you covered me in fake blood? It was the way you stood up to me. You got in my face, whipped out that pepper spray without flinching, even though you knew it was empty. I’m so glad my terror is a fond memory for you. And then after that, you — the way that you bounced back, trina, you refused to let me ruin your night, and I thought that that was so cool. It proved to me that you were someone worth knowing. Or maybe somebody that could cover up for you in case I figured out who you really were. I’m sorry I lied. About everything. No, not everything. I wasn’t lying when I told you that guy at the gallery was a jerk. And I wasn’t lying when I said that it never should have happened to you. Tell me you believe me. Believe what? That you’re even capable of telling the truth? All I’m saying is that esme seemed genuinely upset when I spoke to her earlier. Esme can se you don’t think she cares for spencer? If she did, then why did she try to turn him against us and put his father in danger by lying to sonny? She apologized for that, and by the way, she didn’t lie. No? No. No, she thought that avery was going with nikolas and ava. And why wouldn’t she? Avery is ava’s daughter. You really believe her? Why would she bother coming up with a cover story? Spencer’s obviously crazy for her. She doesn’t need our seal of approval. I don’t know, I just — I — I get this vibe from her and I don’t like it. I think she’s using spencer. For what? He’s richer than god, cam. So is esme. How do we know that? Because she said so? Cam, think about it. I mean, what do we actually know about her? Okay, say that you’re right. Esme’s after the money. Now that spencer’s cut off from his father, shouldn’t she be getting the hell out of here and dumping him? Why is she still in port charles? Esme: Hello? This is she. Really, I got the internship at spring ridge? Thank you so much. I can’t wait to get started. Jax: You didn’t know? Hayden ran because she thought that valentin was after her, but it was actually nikolas that wanted her gone. I’m surprised that elizabeth didn’t mention that. Although hayden disappeared years after she was shot. I mean, who knows if the two incidents are connected. Yeah, but if they are, this could get complicated. How? You think alexis would be okay with me investigating her nephew? She’s the reason I’m out of prison, jax. I owe her everything. Alexis, of all people, would want to know the truth. Thanks for your time. No problem. Jason’s an amazing guy. He’s the best. And the time I spent with him was wonderful. And you don’t want that back? No. Look, I’m sorry for what happened to you, and I’m sorry for jason and what happened with almost getting married and then sonny, and… I mean, that’s super complicated. But for me, it was a blessing. Losing jason was a blessing? Yeah, because if I had actually let myself fall for him and then realized that you were always gonna come first, and I do mean always, I would have lost my mind.

No one knows how wrong I was more than I do, but carly thinks it was only about revenge, and it wasn’T. I mean, the initial phone call when I tried to tell her about sonny — yes, I gave into a bad impulse at the moment, but I fully intended to pick up the phone the next day and tell her about him. Why didn’t you? Because it — it — it just — it quickly became less about carly and more about this — this place, nixon falls, and how happy sonny was. I created this whole new world and I just got swept up in it, you know? And it didn’t have anything to do with carly. Yes, I felt bad about keeping the secret, but I wasn’t doing it to get back at her. It’s just really hard to explain. No, I think I understand. You were really happy there, weren’t you? Sonny: [ Laughs ] Oh. I was.

[ Chuckles ] What? It’s just really hard to imagine sonny as a bartender. Yeah, well, he was just a lot different without the weight of being in the mob on his shoulders. In what way? Just lighter. More joyful. More at peace. Let’s hope that brando feels the same way. I respect your determination to make it on your own. My own? That’s a stretch. I only have the garage because of you. Oh, you definitely earned it. So I may not need a job, but, um… I could use some pointers in the dad department. I always knew you were a good one, but seeing how your family tried to move on, how big a hole you left when you were gone, that… you know, that really drove it home for me. You’re irreplaceable. Thank you. And you’re gonna be. Look, parenting isn’t something you can prepare for. I mean, you can read all the books you want on sleep and everything, but the way to do it… is to do it. On-the-job training.

[ Laughs ] Yeah. Exactly. That’s not intimidating or anything. And you already know what the most important thing is. What’s that? There’s nothing more important than family. So what happened when you talked to nina? It was awful. But I said what I wanted to say. So there’s that. Well, I’m proud of you. Thank you. Listen, I know that you want to get off the subject of spencer and esme — trust me, so do I — but esme is seriously sounding alarm bells off for me right now. Yeah, I’m kind of getting that. Look, I know that spencer is capable of some ridiculous crap, but sending that bear to avery and torching ava’s car, I mean, it’s just — it’s next level. Well, spencer’s dad made him believe that he was dead. Maybe spencer was just that angry. Or esme took it upon herself to raise the stakes and now spencer is being forced to cover for her. I am capable of telling the truth. I truly want you to forgive me. Why do you even care? Because I care what you think, trina. I care about you. Convenient timing, now that everyone hates you. The timing may be suspect, but it’s still the truth. I was hoping — I still am — to be your friend. Because you’re mine. You’re the only friend I’ve ever made who didn’t know me as spencer the cassadine heir or spencer the orphan, spencer the atm. Or spencer the jerk? Yeah, that too. I am sorry I manipulated you, and I am even more sorry that I hurt you. Please believe me. How? How can I believe anything you say, ever? Is everything alright? Uh, I have to go. I’ll take the launch break with you. No, I’d rather go alone. Finally… I have you all to myself. It’s so much more civil to look your enemy straight in the eye. Don’t you agree?

Well, I’m glad to hear that brando’s out of the family business now that you two are about to become parents. I mean, you’re gonna have a baby, look at you. Can you believe it? No. So how are you feeling? I’m okay. I — my blood pressure was high, so I was on bed rest for a while. Oh, no. It’s better now, though, so I can finally leave the house. That must feel nice. Oh, yeah. Turns out I am not meant for lounging around all day. Mnh-mnh. So how is brando? How are things on that front? Everything’s great. Yeah? Yay!

[ Knock on door ] Well, look who it is. Wow. Your ears must have been burning. We were just talking about you. Oh, all good things, I hope. Only the best. Ah, from perks. Extra spinach, no ginger. Thank you. So sweet. I remember that you like ginger. I do. Baby doesn’T. Yes, of course. So what have you been up to? Um…I went to see sonny. I mean, look at the number you did on sam and elizabeth. Okay, there’s two sides to that story. Sure, elizabeth moved on, but I’ve heard enough hospital gossip, not to mention seeing it with my own eyes. She still carries a torch for him. Not that that will ever happen for her because you are his top priority. Look, if you think you’re selling me on the fact that you don’t want him… and if you think you’re selling me on being all magnanimous here, gifting jason back to me, please. And you know what that tells me? What? You still think you’re in control of jason’s life. “In control”? No, but I am a part of jason’s life, and I will not step aside, and accepting me is the price of admission. But isn’t he worth the price of admission? No. Coming in second doesn’t work for me. Britt, I get it. I really get it. And it’s your life, it’s your choice. Jason’s a hard habit to break. Not for me. Mr. Corinthos, hello. Dr. Westbourne. Yeah, okay. Hi. Hey. What’s going on? So how was your talk with phyllis? It was good. I’m lucky to have her as a friend, and hope you don’t mind, but I told her she could stay at the metro court. Of course. Oh, of course. But sadly, our bartender can’t compare it to tan-o’S.

[ Both laugh ] Alexis: Do better. Be better, nikolas, for your son. If I’m such a terrible role model, maybe spencer is better off without me. Stop whining. No, he said it himself. He did all these terrible things because he loved me. Isn’t that what you said to him when you played dead all those years? You did it for spencer? It’s the cassadine way. No. The cassadine way is to discard those that don’t fall in line. Fight for your kid. You’ve made some horrible decisions, nikolas, but you are a good man. So you stay in there and you teach your son to be a good man, too. Don’t let him down. I never said you were my enemy. You didn’t have to say it. I’m sure you’ve heard the expression, “actions speak louder than words.” And yours were deafening. But ultimately, they failed. I’m still here. And you don’t have to like me, spencer, but you do have to hear me when I say that this is over. There will be no more attacks. There will be no more scare tactics. Never again. It’s not like anyone got hurt. I was trying to teach you a lesson. “It’s not like anybody got hurt”? You don’t think being separated from my child hurt? You don’t think planning to leave her behind hurt? You fired the first shot when you refused to testify against valentin. You chose your face over my father. As we discussed, that was wrong, but it does not give you the right to terrorize me. I’m sorry I took it this far, okay? How novel. But I am not sorry that I went after you. And we’re back. You’re bad for my father, ava. And that’s just a fact. Your father disagrees with you. I am his wife, and I’m not going anywhere. And if you ever come after me or my daughter again, there will be hell to pay — a hell unlike anything you have ever witnessed. You got me?

Alrighty. I got to go back to work. Okay. May I just add one thing? You said it yourself, you’ve known spencer since… forever. Yeah. Is it possible that you want to push the blame on esme because you don’t want to blame a friend? Mm… possible, but highly doubtful. I’ll see you later? Count on it. Bye. You’re really lucky to have cameron. He’s an amazing guy. Yeah, he is. Esme, what do you want? I want spence to be happy. That’s it? That’s it. And to be happy, he needs his friends. Cameron seems ready to put all this behind us. I’m hoping you can do the same. I already told you that I’m not giving up on spencer. Just on me. Look… I may not be your favorite person, but spence and i are a package deal. Cameron accepts that. You’d be wise to do that, too. What is that supposed to mean? Just that I’d hate for you to be left behind. Hi, trina. Mm. What was that? Nothing good. I’m not intimidated by you, ava, and I will not let you poison my father against me. Your father’s relationship with you is up to him. As for me, nikolas knows that I will deal with you directly. And how are you gonna do that? Mrs. Cassadine, your housekeeper let us in. Excuse me, what are you guys doing? You can’t just waltz in here. I called them. You called the police to have me thrown out? Oh, no, don’t be silly. I called the police to have you arrested. What? Harassment, criminal mischief, breaking and entering. You’re about to face the consequences of what you’ve done. I don’t want to interrupt. That’s okay, I have to get going anyway. Think about what I said. I believe in you. Was it weird bringing up sonny in front of nina? It’s bound to happen. I just hope my friendship with nina doesn’t cause problems for you with your family. I can handle my family.

[ Sighs ] Good answer.

[ Both chuckle ] Hey, can I get a sip of that? Are you crazy? It’s all mine.

[ Laughs ]

[ Clears throat ] So brando asked my advice on fatherhood. Well, I’m not surprised. You are one of the best. One of the? Yes, of course I have to include michael in that.

[ Laughs ] Oh, yeah.

[ Cellphone chimes ] Oh, I have a meeting. I forgot. It — it won’t take very long. Will you wait for me here? Oh, I’d wait for you anywhere. I’ll be back. Jax. Sonny, welcome home. Miss me? Well, josslyn did. Well, since you’re here, uh… we got a lot to chat about.

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Chanel: That was quite a kiss.

Johnny: Well, that was my way of saying thank you for convincing my sister to do the movie.

Chanel: Allie and i are best friends. So she usually takes my advice.

Johnny: Which was a big help for me in this case. Can I ask you for one more thing?

Chanel: Well, it depends on what that thing is.

Johnny: I’ve got a lot more parts to cast. How would you feel about playing one of them?

John: “Possessed: The marlena evans story”? Did you know about this?

Roman: No, I didn’T. I put my money in this thing because your brother told me he wanted to make a movie about your mom. Now it’s all about marlena’s possession?

Allie: I’m sorry, grandpa. I just assume johnny told you.

John: I can’t even believe this.

Allie: He thought that this movie would make more of a– you know…

Roman: Yeah, moneymaker.

Allie: I mean, you have to admit it it’s pretty exciting. It’s not every day that somebody gets possessed by the devil.

Marlena: What are you talking about? What kind of plans do you have for ben’s baby?

Demon marlena: I don’t wanna spoil the surprise. Let’s just say it is imperative that ben weston and ciara brady conceive a child.

Marlena: Well, he doesn’t agree, and I’m not sure that I convinced him to change his mind.

Demon marlena: Don’t underestimate yourself, dr. Evans. Ben weston always listens to you. He takes your words to heart. And soon I’m going to get what I’ve been wanting for so long.

Ciara: How did it go with marlena? Did you talk to her about us starting a family?

Ben: Actually, yes, I did.

Ciara: You did? Well, did it make you feel any better?

Ben: It did.

Ciara: Wait, it did?

Ben: Mm-hmm.

Ciara: So does that mean–

Ben: If you wanna have this baby, let’s have a baby.

Ciara: Are you serious?

Ben: I know how important this is to you, and that makes it important to me. So let’s do this. Let’s make a baby.

Ciara: Oh, my god.

Male announcer: Like sands through the hourglass, so are the “days of our lives.”

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Chanel: So you really want me to be in your movie?

Johnny: Yeah, I do. I have a feeling that the camera would love you.

Chanel: Well, I have been told I take a great picture.

Johnny: Is that a yes?

Ciara: And I’ve always thought acting sounded like fun.

Johnny: Oh, so it is a yes.

Ciara: When I was little, I used to pretend to be those twins on “sister, sister,” and I would make my mama be the mom. She recorded a bunch of videos. She probably still has them.

Johnny: Well, if she does, I would love to see them.

Ciara: So if I did say yes to being in your movie, what role would I play? And if you say the devil I’m punching you in the face.

Johnny: No, you’re not the devil. I actually think I have the perfect role for you.

John: [Scoffs] No way this is gonna happen. He’s not gonna make this movie. Kiddo, did I not ask you to talk to your brother? Did I not practically beg you to convince him to stay away from this part of your grandmother’s life?

Allie: I did talk to him. I swear. But he is stubborn and he says that this is the movie he has to make. I mean, I don’t think anything is gonna stop him.

John: No, I just thought of one thing that can.

Marlena: I don’t understand. What makes ben and ciara’s child so special to you?

Demon marlena: Do I really have to spell it out? The child would inherit the genetics of a serial killer, a man who murdered three women. Young weston was right to be worried about passing on his dark, twisted legacy to his child. That’s where I need you.

Marlena: There’s no such thing as a serial killer gene.

Demon marlena: But as a psychiatrist, you must know that certain genes if nurtured in the proper environment, can result in psychopathic behavior. Weston himself had a sadistic father and a weak mother.

Marlena: Ben and ciara are not those parents.

Demon marlena: Just leave that part to me. That child could turn into the perfect instrument of evil.

Marlena: You don’t know ben the way I know him. He despises what he’s done. And he is not inherently evil.

Demon marlena: But the capacity for evil still resides in him as it would in his child.

Ciara: Oh, my god, I can’t believe this. Ben, you really want us to have a baby? You want that now?

Ben: I do.

Ciara: Oh, my god. Oh, my god, ben this is just– god, you made me so happy.

Ben: Oh, my god. I can see that.

Ciara: What did marlena say to change your mind?

Ben: Well, first of all, she said that half of our baby’s gene pool will be from your side, thank god. And since you are the best, strongest, most beautiful person I’ve ever met, I can’t be afraid of what’s happening on my side of things. And it’s not–I can’t let it stop us from having a baby. Like I said, it is important to me too for us to be parents. I wanna have a baby with you.

Ciara: Really?

Ben: Really.

Ciara: Oh, my god. Oh, my god, ben, I love you so much.

Ben: I love you so much. It’s my 4:05 the-show-must-go-on

Abigail: Love-making has never really been an issue for us.

Chad: No, it hasn’T.

Abigail: However, you still have a lot of issues to work out, and I don’t wanna cloud that by being intimate too soon.

Chad: This–this kiss. It’s just–it’s pretend. It’s john and marlena kissing. Doesn’t have to mean a thing to–to chad and abigail.

Abigail: Oh, well, thank you very much for explaining that, mr. Stanislavsky.

Chad: I’m being– I’m being serious. Look, you don’t have to worry about me turning this into something that it’s– it’s– it’s not, all right? We’ll kiss, and then we’ll go upstairs. Well–we’ll sleep in separate bedrooms. That is unless you–you find me too–too irresistible.

Abigail: Suddenly, I don’t think that’s gonna to be very much of an issue.

Chad: No?

Abigail: No. Where were we?

Chad: Okay, all right. Okay. Do you really want me to go, doc?

Ej: Well, well. What have we here?

Johnny: So I was thinking you could play celeste perrault.

Chanel: Oh, interesting name. Tell me about her.

Johnny: She was my grandfather’s henchwoman.

Chanel: Oh, so she did his dirty work.

Johnny: Some of it, yeah. She was also his lover.

Chanel: And how does she fit into the story?

Johnny: Well, she was a psychic too. She was the first person who sensed that the devil was in salem.

Chanel: Oh, so she’s like the hero of the movie?

Johnny: She should be, yeah. But when she tried to warn everyone, nobody believed her.

Chanel: Why is that?

Johnny: Oh, you know how some people are about psychics.

Chanel: So what makes you think that I’d be the perfect celeste? Wait, is she black?

Johnny: Uh, well, yeah, yeah. Now that I–I guess she is. Now that I think about it, yeah.

Chanel: You–you guess?

Johnny: No, I mean she–she was–she is, yes, but that’s not why I thought of you. I mean, she’s–she’s strong, you know. She’s–she’s a woman doing a man’s job. She’s wise.

Chanel: Uh-huh.

Johnny: She’s beautiful.

Chanel: Uh-huh.

Johnny: And you have a connection to her.

Chanel: What connection?

Johnny: She–celeste is the mother of my aunt lexie, who is the mother of theo. Theo carver, the guy you dated.

Chanel: Wait, so let me get this straight. You want me to play my old boyfriend’s big mama?

Allie: How can you stop johnny?

John: Easy. You see your brother never bothered to get the rights to marlena’s story.

Allie: But he said that she encouraged him to make the movie.

Roman: Well, I’m sure she said that, because she didn’t know the movie was about her. Same as me.

John: Yeah, I’ll just talk to marlena, and I’m sure she will stop johnny from doing this.

Roman: Yeah, if she wants to shut it down, I do believe the law is on her side.

John: That’s a fact. I’m gonna head over to her office right now. She has one appointment with ben weston. But I’m sure she’s alone.

Ciara: Here you go.

Ben: Thank you, love.

Ciara: So this dream you told marlena about.

Ben: I had it in new orleans. I dreamed that we had a son. We came home, and we discovered that he killed his babysitter with a necktie.

Ciara: And you didn’t think to tell me about this?

Ben: Baby, we were on our honeymoon.

Ciara: Yeah, but, baby, i would have reassured you that it was all good.

Ben: I did not want you to have to reassure me. I didn’t wanna burden you. Like I said, we were on our honeymoon, and dr. Evans reassured me today. She’s not even sure if the illness that I had is actually hereditary. You know, and if god forbid there’s the chance that our kid does inherit that, there’s treatment.

Ciara: Mm-hmm, like you had.

Ben: Right.

Ciara: Right.

Ben: It doesn’t mean that we can’t not look for signs, you know. We can’t kid ourselves, but–

Ciara: No, we will not.

Ben: No.

Ciara: No.

Ben: And I’m still not a 100% gung ho, but I know that I can certainly live with my fears, especially if it means that you and i can start a family together.

Ciara: Sounds like marlena gave you some really good advice.

Ben: She did give me good advice.

Ciara: Mm-hmm.

Ben: She was a little different, though.

Ciara: How so?

Ben: Usually, she doesn’t tell me what to do. She lets me make my own decisions for myself, but today she made it seem like I would be making this huge mistake if I decided to never have kids. Like, she really wanted me to listen to her. It was almost like…

Ciara: Almost like what?

Ben: Like she had a personal stake in us having a baby.

Ciara: Hmm.

Marlena: Even if ben and ciara’s child were predisposed to evil behavior, it doesn’t mean that behavior would ever surface.

Demon marlena: Must you be such a doomsayer?

Marlena: Look, ben and ciara would be kind and loving parents, and–and they would–they would raise their child in a loving and safe environment.

Demon marlena: But there are cases where biology is destiny. Ben weston was conditioned by clyde weston to become the necktie killer. Even though that need in him was dormant for years and years, he couldn’t escape the evil that clyde had planted inside him. And clyde himself is the product of generations of evildoers. I chose ben very carefully.

Marlena: But ciara would be the mother, and she is a product of–of two loving and caring families, the bradys and the hortons.

Demon marlena: I never said it wouldn’t be a struggle but the struggle is what makes this all so perfect.

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Ej: I just came down for a nightcap. Feel free to continue with your reconciliation or whatever it was.

Abigail: Actually, chad was just helping me run lines for a scene from your son’s movie. We were–we were pretending to be john and marlena.

Ej: Hmm, it’s not enough to provide funding for johnny’s little project?

Chad: I was helping my wife with her lines. It’s called being a supportive husband.

Abigail: Yeah, and since the role of john hasn’t really been cast yet…

Chad: Oh, no. You know what? That’s right. Maybe I should audition for it. It’d be a–a real kick to act with my wife in my nephew’s movie.

Johnny: Chanel, listen to me.

Chanel: I’ve heard enough. You want me to play theo’s granny?

Johnny: Whoa, you’d be playing her as a young woman, not as a granny. I mean, if–if you have a problem with it, you could always play the part of her daughter. It’s a smaller role, but aunt lexie was the doctor who took care of my grandmother in the hospital.

Chanel: So my only options are to play theo’s mama or his big mama.

Johnny: Allie’s playing our mother. I mean, it’s not that strange.

Chanel: I’m pretty sure theo carver would think it was strange.

Johnny: So you’re turning me down.

Chanel: I’m gonna have to think about it.

Ciara: Baby, I know it wasn’t easy for you to change your mind, and I know you did it mostly for me. So I have to ask you if you’re sure that this is what you really want, because as much as I want to have a baby with you, I–I don’t want you to do this if you think you have to because you owe me or something.

Ben: Do you know how much I love you?

Ciara: Yes.

Ben: If I wasn’t scared of what my genes might do to our baby, I would have been on board with this from the start. I’m not doing it because you want it or just because you want it. Dr. Evans made me feel a whole lot better about this whole idea. I cannot wait to make a baby with you.

Ciara: I can’t wait either. So should we take the first step? Because I’m not gonna be needing these anymore.

Ben: Go for it.

Demon marlena: Don’t you see? Ben and ciara’s bloodlines are the perfect combination. Their progeny will have enormous potential for evil and also a pure and innocent soul, one that could be easily corrupted. It’s going to be wonderful. It’s exactly what I have been wanting for so long.

Marlena: What does that mean?

Demon marlena: You don’t need to trouble yourself with that–

Marlena: But I do. You forced me to persuade ben to have this child. Now you’re telling me that you’ve had plans for this child right along?

Demon marlena: When you risked your professional reputation to have ben released from the sanitarium, and of all the psychiatrists in the world he became your patient, it was as if the stars suddenly aligned. It was glorious.

Marlena: I will not allow you to use ben.

Demon marlena: What are you doing?

Marlena: What I have to do. I’m gonna warn him.

Demon marlena: You will do no such thing.

Marlena: You try and stop me.

[Knock at door]

John: Doc, you busy?

Marlena: Come in.

John: Whoa. You’re alone. I could have sworn I heard another voice. Now, we all know progressive offers 24/7 protection,

Ej: It’s your favorite pastime, isn’t it, getting under my skin?

Chad: Okay. You–you think that everything is about you? Look, I mean, playing a married couple with problems could be good for us.

Abigail: I never thought of it that way.

Ej: And when will you do your job, the one where you run an international corporation?

Chad: I can do both.

Ej: Oh, really? We’re supposed to be sharing the position of ceo. But the only one working long hours is me. Chad: I can’t help if I’m better at time management than you are.

Ej: That’s your assessment. Mine is that you are simply not pulling your weight. And once I express that concern to shin, I think he will agree with me.

Johnny: Chanel, please. I really want you to play the part of celeste. You’d really be great.

Chanel: Well, then you should stop playing director for a little while and do some more of that wooing.

Johnny: I left my guitar back in my bedroom, but we could go back there and I don’t know.

Chanel: Is that where you keep your casting couch?

Johnny: You are really giving me a hard time tonight.

Chanel: Yeah, it’s good for you. You’ll thank me later. But I wouldn’t be opposed to you taking me to dinner.

Johnny: Well, my father has cut me off financially, as you know, but we could go to the pub. I’m sure I could talk my grandpa into giving us a free meal.

Chanel: You really think you can just charm your way through this world, don’t you?

Johnny: Well, yeah. ‘Cause I usually can. You coming?

John: Thought you still might be in your session with ben. Were you talking with him on the phone?

Marlena: No, I–I recorded our session, and I was listening to it.

John: And how did it go?

Marlena: Well, for some reason I–I think I might have led him down the wrong path. So, I–I think I–I need to talk to him.

John: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Now?

Marlena: Yeah, I think this shouldn’t wait.

John: No, I–I–I don’t think that’s a good idea. Because you are paler now than you were when left the house. Something’s going on that’s got you upset.

Marlena: It was a very emo–it was a very emotional session, and–and I think ben still needs me.

John: Sweetheart, I know how committed you are to your patients, and I respect that, but right now tonight you’re gonna shut it down. I’m gonna take you home. You talk to ben tomorrow.

Marlena: John, this is not–

John: I’m not taking no for an answer, sweetheart. Let’s go. Let’s go. Now.

Marlena: Fine. I’m fine.

John: Come on.

Ben: How soon after you stop taking the pill can you get pregnant?

Ciara: I don’t know. Let me check.

Ben: Check. Please, please, please.

Ciara: Okay, so it says here that I can get pregnant immediately.

Ben: Okay.

Ciara: Or it can take up to a year.

Ben: It doesn’t really narrow it down. Does it?

Ciara: Uh-uh. It also says that if I stop taking the pill in the middle of my pack, which I am doing, I can get pregnant right away. It’s rare, but it does happen.

Ben: Ooh, well, then what better time than the present, huh? Am I wrong?

Ciara: No.

Ben: I didn’t think so. On the outside, I looked fine.

Chad: You know, I’d–I’d like to work hard, ej, but the truth is you’ve been inching me out of the process since the moment we took over those jobs. And you damn well know it.

Ej: I entered into our agreement in good faith. I wanted it to work.

Chad: No, you didn’T. You’ve been planning this from the get-go. I’m backing johnny so you’re making your move.

Ej: I have a hard time trusting people who betray me.

Chad: I believe in johnny, I’m supporting him. And this is your way of paying me back. Just be a man and call it what it is.

Ej: Don’t tell me, you’re serious about running dimera. I just heard you talking about acting in a student movie. You don’t have time for side jobs.

Abigail: Okay, look. You took time to act as xander cook’s attorney. What was that? Pro bono work?

Ej: What I do is none of your business.

Chad: Okay.

Abigail: You know darn well that he has all the time in the world to be in johnny’s movie in his spare time and still put in a full day at dimera.

Ej: No, I don’t think shin will concur. As a matter of fact, I’ll call him now, sound him out about chad’s new gig.

Chad: I mean, I don’t–I don’t even–i don’t even have the part, and you just drooling over the thought of dumping me.

Ej: You never should have undermined me with my son.

Johnny: So you closed the bakery and came here, huh?

Allie: Yeah, I did. You have a problem with that?

Johnny: I just thought you were going home to learn your lines.

Allie: Well, I called nicole, and she said henry was already asleep, so i figured I’d come see grandpa and get some dinner.

Johnny: So grandpa’s still here?

Allie: Yeah, he’s in the back.

Johnny: Oh, good. I need to talk to him.

Allie: Before you do, you should know that grandpa john was here, and he saw my script. He knows the movie’s about grandma marlena now, and he’s flipping out.

Johnny: Oh, man. He was–he was really pissed?

Allie: Yeah. He’s gonna tell grandma that she shouldn’t give you the right to make the movie.

Johnny: But I will convince her that she should, that I can tell her story.

Roman: It won’t make much difference.

Johnny: What do you mean?

Roman: Look, I saw it john, saw his reaction when he looked at your script, and it got me thinking. And, johnny, I can’t in good conscience invest in your movie anymore.

John: All right, now, doctor, I want you to try to get some sleep, and I’m sure you’re gonna feel a lot better in the morning. Okay?

Marlena: Yeah. I’m just still so worried about ben.

John: Have you figured out why yet?

Marlena: No, just a–just a gut feeling.

John: Well, I think I might know what’s going on here.

Marlena: Well, I wish I did.

John: I think that you were just obsessed with ben, because you tried so damn hard to help doug, and you couldn’T.

Marlena: Yeah, I-I try so hard. I-I-I just wanted to get through to doug. I want–and then I–I feel awful about trying to convince julie to let me commit him to bayview.

John: Hey, after what he did to her, you didn’t have a choice. Now, I know you, sweetheart, and I know that you–you always want to try to help everybody, especially those people you love, and–and then, you know, you’ve done a really good job with ben, but you don’t need to talk to him tonight. Tonight you just need to take care of yourself. Okay?

Marlena: Yeah.

John: Okay.

Marlena: Okay, yeah, I’m– I’m–I’m sure ben will be fine. It can wait till tomorrow.

Ciara: What do you think?

Ben: I think we should have been making babies a long time ago. I’ve lost count of how many asthma attacks I’ve had.

Chad: So should we try the scene again?

Abigail: Aren’t you worried about ej getting to shin?

Chad: Ej, no. I don’t care what ej says. I’ve been killing it at the office. And I don’t see shin making any changes. Not–not with the way profits are. So should we take it from the top?

Abigail: I’m tired. I think I’ve rehearsed enough for today.

Chad: What? What are you talking about? We’re just–we’re just getting to the good part.

Abigail: Uh-huh. I just wanna go upstairs. I’m gonna check on the kids, and I’m going to take a very long, hot bath.

Chad: Well, why don’t we– why don’t we check on the kids together. And then I can–I can escort you to your room because I wouldn’t want you running into any–any dangerous creatures in the hallway, especially ones with plummy british accents.

Abigail: Hmm. You’re very protective.

Chad: Yeah.

Abigail: But that sounds nice.

Johnny: Oh, come on, grandpa. You can’t do this to me. I’m counting on you.

Roman: Yeah, I know. Look, I feel bad about breaking my word, okay? But admit it, you pulled a bait and switch on me. And it’s not fair, and it’s not right. And this new story of yours, I don’t think you get what a really bad idea this is.

Johnny: Oh, man.

Roman: Johnny, you can’t just be about what you want. This movie can mess people’s lives up, people you love, people you care about.

Johnny: Thank you for trying to help me.

Roman: All right, listen. I gotta run. Make sure nobody robs the place.

Allie: We’ll keep an eye out.

Roman: See you later.

Chanel: I am so sorry, G.

Johnny: I mean what the hell am I supposed to do now? I’ve tapped every investor I can think of.

Allie: Any way you could crowd source the rest of the money?

Johnny: That could take forever. Damn it.

Chanel: Hey, why don’t we just order some food and then we can brainstorm over dinner.

Johnny: I’m not hungry anymore. You mind if we take a rain check? I–I just need to think this thing through on my own. I’m really sorry.

Chanel: I understand. We’re gonna figure this out.

Johnny: I hope so. See ya.

Chanel: Poor guy. I’ve never seen him like that.

Allie: I have. But we were little kids.

Marlena: Ooh, goodness. Do feel kind of worn out. Maybe I could turn off those thoughts that keep going through my head.

John: Thoughts? What kinda–what kinda thoughts?

Marlena: Just thoughts– thoughts about my patients.

John: Hey, hey, hey. Maybe this gizmo over here will help. Want me to turn it on?

Marlena: What–what is that?

John: Why, this is called a white sound machine. Comes highly recommended by abraham carver. Paulina brought one up from miami; it puts abe to sleep just like that.

Marlena: Well, okay. Let’s hope it works.

John: Yeah, that and maybe a cup of hot chamomile tea?

Marlena: Aw, that’d be nice. Thank you.

John: All right, now you just close your eyes, and I will be right back. Okay.

[Eerie music]

Demon marlena: Listen to your husband, marlena. Forget all about ben weston.


Johnny: [Scoffs]

Ej: Something wrong?

Johnny: Oh, you’ll love this, yeah. Grandpa roman doesn’t wanna put money in the movie anymore. So my dream project is over before it ever even got started.

Ej: If you’re expecting me to gloat, it’s not going to happen. What if I offered to cover roman’s investment?

Johnny: Okay, but what’s the catch? ‘Cause I know there is one.

Ej: You’re right.

Chad: Can we do this every night? Check on thomas and charlotte together?

Abigail: I would love that. Yeah. Were you really serious about wanting to play john? Or you just trying to get in ej’s face?

Chad: Maybe a little bit of both. But what I wanna–when I started to talk about the two of us doing it together, I started to really like the idea.

Abigail: Why?

Chad: It just seems like it would be a fun adventure for us to go through together. And I wouldn’t have to worry about you doing some sex scenes with some random guy.

Johnny: I’m not going to work at dimera enterprises. I would rather wait tables at the pub.

Ej: That’s not my condition. You’ve made yourself clear.

Johnny: Stop playing games, dad. What do you want?

Ej: What I want is to play john black.

John: Yeah, hold on a second. Hey, roman.

Roman: Hey, hey, sorry for coming by so late without calling first, but I wanted to let you know. I told johnny I won’t help fund his film.

John: Nice. Thanks, roman. I know that it wasn’t easy.

Roman: No it wasn’t, but your right. The last thing we want is for marlena to have to relive that time.

Marlena: Ben, have to warn ben.

[Wind whooshing]

Demon marlena: Let it go, marlena. Leave ben to me. Stop fighting. Give in to me.

Ciara: Was that just me or did that feel different? Like extra special?

Ben: It was definitely not just you.

Ciara: I didn’t think it was.

Ben: Mm-mm.

Ciara: And that kinda has me wondering.

Ben: Oh, yeah? What are you wondering, my love?

Ciara: I’m wondering if we just made a baby.


[Wind whooshing]

[Tense music]

Demon marlena: Just let go, marlena. Give in to me. Give in to me. Give in to me to me…to me… to me…to me…to me…to me.

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Chanel: That was a day.

Allie: And a half. I can’t believe we sold out everything in the bakery.

Chanel: I feel like I barely even had a chance to breathe. I didn’t even get a chance to ask you how your date was.

Allie: It was fine, but how about you? What did you end up doing last night?

Chanel: You know, it turns out it was good I didn’t go out with you guys, because I was involved in a surprise engagement.

Allie: What? You and my brother got engaged?

Johnny: Hey, just the person I was looking for.

Abigail: Oh, really? Good reason or bad reason?

Johnny: Good.

Abigail: Okay. Another script.

Johnny: You can tear up the old one. That is the rewrite. Hot off the press.

Abigail: Okay, and so you said this one focuses mainly on your grandmother being possessed by the–

Johnny: It’s okay. You can say it. You’re gonna have to live it when you play her in the movie.

Abigail: You wrote another script that fast?

Johnny: Yeah. I was working on it all night, but I gotta tell you that thing practically wrote itself. I guess you could say the devil was my muse.

Abigail: Hmm.

Kayla: [Laughs] How did you know that’s what I needed?

Roman: Lucky guess. Nothing does the trick like mom’s cure-all.

Kayla: I wish it could cure everything.

Roman: What’s going on?

Kayla: I just came from committing doug to bayview for evaluation.

Roman: How’d that go?

Kayla: He was extremely upset and was insisting that he didn’t belong there. And he just kept asking for julie, over and over again.

Ciara: I think that I’m more ready to start a family than ben is.

Julie: He doesn’t want children?

Ciara: Oh, he does. It’s just he has his own issues to work through, before he can fully commit.

Julie: Considering his family history and his own, that makes sense.

Ciara: Yeah, he’s actually at a session with marlena right now, mm-hmm. Hopefully, she can help him work through those feelings. There is no one I trust more than marlena.

Julie: As do I. I know she’s going to help my doug and help your ben too. I have complete faith in marlena. And you should too.

Marlena: I’m sorry, ben.

Ben: It’s okay, and thank you again for making the time to see me.

Devil: Don’t let him go, marlena. You need to convince ben weston that he and his wife must have this baby. Don’t let me down, marlena, or there will be a steep price to pay.

[Echoing] Pay, pay.

Male announcer: Like sands through the hourglass, so are the “days of our lives.”

[Soft orchestration]


Allie: Why didn’t you tell me you were engaged? I mean, where’s the ring?

Chanel: [Laughs] Relax, horton. I am not engaged to your brother after three dates.

Allie: Oh, okay, well, you said you were involved in a surprise engagement, so what’s the engagement?

Chanel: Abe proposed to my mom last night.

Allie: Oh! Well, that’s great.

Chanel: And the best part is she said yes.

Allie: Well, lucky uncle abe. Your mom is a total catch.

Chanel: Hell yeah she is, and it was a really romantic night all around.

Allie: Okay, well, if you’re talking about my brother now, I don’t really need the gory details.

Chanel: It would only be gory if he was a lousy singer.

Allie: No, please do not tell me that my brother brought out his guitar and “serenaded” you.

Chanel: Yeah, he sure did.

Allie: Oh, my god.

Chanel: He was “wooing” me. His words.

Allie: I told you he was a player.

Chanel: Well, if he is, then so far he’s playing it exactly right.

Abigail: You changed the name of the movie, I see.

Johnny: I had to. It’s not the sami brady story any more.

Abigail: Did you tell your mom? ‘Cause she’s not gonna be happy.

Johnny: She is not even returning my texts or my calls, so she doesn’t get a say. But you do, and so does chad. I want you both to read over this. Please let me know if you have any questions, if any of the dialogue feels unnatural. I want you to be brutally honest, okay?

Abigail: You’re sure about that?

Johnny: Of course. It’s a collaborative film, and I appreciate you guys believing in my vision.

Abigail: Aww. Thank you. I really appreciate the opportunity.

Johnny: So you’re excited?

Abigail: I am, yeah. After these last few crazy months, I can’t believe how much I’m looking forward to it.

Johnny: Well, I will leave you to it, and maybe… read it with the lights on.

Abigail: “Possessed: The marlena evans story.”

[Eerie music]


Devil: Are you listening to me, marlena? You need to stop him. Now.

Ben: Dr. Evans, you all right?

Marlena: You didn’t hear that?

Ben: Hear what?

Devil: Ben can’t hear me, doc. I have a direct line right into your head. And more importantly, your soul.

Ben: Dr. Evans, what did you hear?

[Eerie music]


Marlena: A sound. Outside. It must have been something outside. Nothing–it’s nothing.

Ben: What did it sound like?

Devil: You need to change his mind, marlena. Tell him right now. Tell him to have this baby. If you don’t, I’ll have to pay a visit to poor, vulnerable doug.

Marlena: Well, I don’t–

Ben: Dr. Evans, are you sure you’re all right?

Marlena: Um… no, actually I’m not feeling very well at all.

Ben: You know, maybe you should head home. Get some rest. Yeah? You’ll feel better, okay?

Marlena: Wait. You can’t leave. Your mission:

Allie: Please tell me that you recorded my brother singing to you.

Chanel: I did not.

Allie: Damn it. I could have used it for blackmail.

Chanel: It was a very lovely, private moment.

Allie: A lovely, private, cringey moment. I’m sure my brother couldn’t be cheesier if he tried.

Johnny: I bet I can.

Chanel: Hey, you.

Johnny: Hey.

Allie: Heart-shaped chocolates? You know she’s a baker, right?

Johnny: They’re chocolate-covered mixed nuts.

Chanel: My favorite. You’re good. He’s good.

Abigail: Oh!

Chad: Sorry, sorry, sorry.

Abigail: [Laughs] Oh, my gosh. I did not…

Chad: Sorry.

Abigail: Hear you come in. I was so caught up in the script.

Chad: How many times you read that thing?

Abigail: This is a totally new version. Johnny practically started over. He wants us to read it and give him some feedback.

Chad: Okay. It sounds like a nice diversion from the day at the office that I had.

Abigail: You weren’t confronted by the devil, were you?

Chad: Not quite. Ej’s not speaking to me.

Abigail: Because of the movie stuff?

Chad: He’ll only communicate to me through our assistants. He’s furious that I’m financing a story about sami’s past.

Abigail: Well, you can’t pull out now. Not only would it break johnny’s heart. I think it’d kind of break mine.

Roman: [Sighs] Damn. It breaks my heart. I mean, I know he was having trouble. Mixing up names. I mean, he did that when he came in the pub, a while back, but damn. It sounds like it’s really getting a lot worse.

Kayla: Well, I think we know better than most that dementia is a degenerative illness. And in doug’s case, it just seems like it’s progressing with alarming rapidity.

Roman: Well, we did get a miracle for mom.

Kayla: Well, it’s gonna take at least that, if not more, for doug to recover.

Julie: You just got married. Your whole life is before you. There’s no rush to have a baby, is there?

Ciara: I guess not. Plenty of people decide not to have kids, right? And good for them. It’s just–I don’t know. I never thought that I would have to make that decision.

Julie: What about adoption? I mean, if ben is so concerned about passing on his genes.

Ciara: Yeah, allie actually asked me about that, but I mean I don’t think we’re the perfect candidates, given ben’s history.

Julie: I understand.

Ciara: And besides, I don’t even think that would address all of his concerns. I think he’s not only afraid of passing down his genes. I think he’s afraid of the kind of parent he’s gonna end up becoming. I think he’s afraid that he’ll turn into clyde.

Ben: Why can’t I leave? Aren’t we finished with our session?

Marlena: We are, but…

Devil: Pull yourself together, marlena. You can do it. You have to do it.

Marlena: I don’t want you going home to ciara and telling her that you can’t have a child.

Ben: Why not?

Marlena: Because–

Devil: Say it, marlena. Say it.

Marlena: Because that would be a terrible mistake. This is the sound of an asthma attack…

Julie: Oh, my darling girl. I hope all your hopes and dreams come true.

Ciara: Thank you, grandma, but right now, I am worried about grandpa and you. I’m just so sorry for what you guys are going through.

Julie: We’ve had a long and exciting life together. I never took a day of it for granted. I have no regrets.

Ciara: But still, I mean you never really think that something like this would happen.

Julie: No. No, you don’T. You can prepare yourself for illness. You can even prepare yourself for that day when one of you has to say goodbye. But I never expected that my darling would want to hurt me or stop loving me.

Ciara: No. He would never stop loving you. No matter how sick he gets, he still loves you, deep down in his soul with all of his heart. And that is one thing that I know for certain. He always will love you.

Kayla: [Sighs] Thank you for the chowder.

Roman: Any time, sis.

Kayla: All right, I’m gonna head over to the hortons and check on julie.

Roman: Okay. Give ’em my love.

Kayla: I will do that. I love you.

Roman: I love you.

Kayla: Hey, john.

John: Hey, kay.

Kayla: How’s marlena feeling?

John: Better. Nowhere near 100%. I tried talking her out of going to work.

Kayla: She went to the hospital?

John: You know doc. Always putting everybody else’s needs first.

Kayla: That she does.

John: Keep an eye on her for me, will you?

Kayla: Of course.

John: Thanks. Appreciate that. Yeah.

Kayla: Take care.

Roman: Hey, john. What can I get for you?

John: Just a couple minutes of your time.

Roman: Always on the menu. What’s up?

John: Johnny tells me that you are thinking about investing in his film.

Roman: Doing more than thinking about it. Told him I would.

John: Well, I’m here to talk you out of it.

Chad: You’re really psyched about doing this movie, huh?

Abigail: I am, yeah. It feels like a new challenge. An opportunity to maybe learn something about salem’s history. And aren’t you excited to be a part of it?

Chad: Yeah. I wouldn’t be investing in it if I didn’t believe in it.

Abigail: So you’re not gonna let ej’s temper tantrum change your mind?

Chad: No, not a chance.

Abigail: Good, because chad–this story–it’s insane. I mean, my part. The things that I get to do. I just hope that I can do justice to everything that marlena went through, really.

Chad: Well, I mean, you–look at me. You have succeeded at everything you’ve ever done, okay? You are gonna be great.

Abigail: Thank you. I think I’m gonna read the words out loud. You know, just to kind of make sure everything flows.

Chad: Yeah, well…

Abigail: You know?

Chad: Why don’t we read it together? I’ll be your scene partner.

Abigail: Really?

Chad: Yeah. Look, I am–I mean I’m no professional.

Abigail: God.

Chad: Okay? But I’m game. You can call me… john black.

Abigail: It’S… father john black. You ready?

Chad: Let’s do it.

Abigail: [Clears throat]

Chad: Fade in.

Chanel: Mmm. I wonder if we can make a cookie that tastes like this. Cashews and dark chocolate.

Allie: No. It’s almost dinnertime.

Johnny: You just cannot admit that I bought something nice for chanel. You know, I’m actually a pretty good boyfriend.

Allie: Okay, well, if you’re here to do more wooing, I’m gonna get going.

Johnny: Ah, hang on. I’m here to woo you too.

Allie: Oh, another script.

Johnny: I know you haven’t committed to the project yet, but there is no way you’ll turn me down after you read this draft. I promise.

Allie: Sorry, buddy, but I’m turning you down right now.

Ben: You’re telling me that it would be a mistake not to bring a baby into this world? Fully knowing that it could possibly be sick, like I was?

Marlena: Ben, you were ill. You’re not ill anymore.

Ben: I understand that, but I also know that it could come back. And I face that possibility every single day, and I know my child could go through that same thing.

Marlena: But the odds are so low.

Ben: They’re not zero.

Marlena: No. No, nothing is really zero. Look, god forbid–

Devil: Don’t bring him into this.

Marlena: Ben… we all have traits we don’t want to pass on to our children. I mean, that’s just part of parenting. It’s part of being human. Look, if your child were to become ill, well, you’d get medical attention. Mental health is the same thing.

Ben: Yeah, but when I was ill it didn’t just make me sick. It caused me to kill people.

Marlena: We didn’t catch it soon enough, but you will be so vigilant with your own child.

Ben: Dr. Evans, there isn’t an amount of vigilance in this world to head off evil. I’m sorry. I-I can’t– I can’t do that.

Devil: Stop him now. You have to.

Marlena: Why?

Ben: What do you mean, “why?” I’m a ganiac, ganiac, check my drawers

Johnny: Allie, come on, please. I need you to play mom.

Allie: Why? The story’s about grandma now.

Johnny: And mom is her daughter. She was about our age when grandma was possessed.

Chanel: Oh, there’s a sentence.

Johnny: Look, mom has some really pivotal scenes. Wait till you read about the moment that she walked in on grandma and grandpa john on top of the titan conference…

Allie: Okay.

Johnny: Table.

Allie: One, ew, and, two, what does it have to do with the possession?

Johnny: The fallout from that affair is the event that pushed mom over the edge. I mean, that’s why she changed aunt belle’s paternity test results, why she kidnapped her. A lot of people say that that was the birth of sami brady as we know her.

Chanel: Your mom did all of that?

Allie: It’s literally just the beginning.

Chanel: So what happened with your grandma, after your mom caught her?

Allie: Well, the truth got out about the affair, and my grandpa roman divorced her.

Johnny: Leaving marlena all alone, vulnerable, and full of shame. And that’s how the devil found his way in.

Roman: Okay. Well, john, I gotta tell you I am not gonna go back on my word to my grandchild.

John: Roman, you know what this film’s about.

Roman: Yeah. Sami’s life.

John: All of our lives. And from what I understand, it’s gonna include the moment that doc and I–

Roman: Cheated on me.

John: Yep.

Roman: John, I came to terms with that a long time ago. Stefano upended all our lives. Marlena fell in love with you when she thought you were me, and after that, as hard as you two tried, you couldn’t stay apart.

Marlena: John. I didn’t think I’d see you tonight.

John: I didn’t expect to see you here, either, especially alone.

Marlena: I’m not. Roman is coming.

John: You know, doc, you couldn’t lie to me when we were married, and you still can’T. God, you look beautiful tonight. Wait please.

Marlena: Don’t do this.

John: Just a minute.

Marlena: Don’T. If you care about me at all, don’t touch me. Not now. Not ever…

Both: Again.

Chad: I guess john didn’t listen.

Abigail: No editorializing. Keep going.

Chad: Sorry.

[Clears throat]

[As john] I talked to carrie, after you left. She felt as though you may be coming down with a little something.

Abigail as marlena: Oh, well, she was wrong.

Chad: Are you sure?

Abigail: Yes, I feel fine.

Chad: All right. Then why aren’t you upstairs at the party with everyone else?

Abigail: I just needed some time by myself.

Chad: Why? Why? I mean, if you’re not ill, why are you here? What are you running away from? If, um–

Abigail: You know, I think maybe that’s enough for one day.

Chad: It’s a little close to home, huh?

Ciara: There we go.

Julie: Enough of this. Cheer me up.

Ciara: Okay.

Julie: Yes. Tell me about your honeymoon. It was in new orleans?

Ciara: Yes, it was.

Julie: So tell me all about the food.

Ciara: Oh, the food! Well, where do I even start? The crawfish. The muffuletta sandwiches. The beignets. Oh, and we even visited oak alley.

Julie: Oh, it’s beautiful, isn’t it? Your mother and father made some wonderful memories there.

Ciara: Yeah, it is beautiful, but it’s changed a lot. The plantation’s had to reckon with its past. Yeah, enslaved workers built the house, planted the oaks, and that is all a part of its legacy.

Julie: It’s important to reexamine the sins of the past. Hard as that is.

Ciara: Yeah. It actually made ben think about how he had to reckon with his own sins.

Julie: This is why he has doubts about having children?

Ciara: Whatever happens, whether we have kids or not, I will respect his decision. I would never want to pressure him into doing something that he doesn’t want to do.

Ben: You’re asking me why I don’t want to risk bringing a bad seed into this world? Dr. Evans, isn’t that answer kind of obvious?

Marlena: I know about your fears, but I’m telling you it’s very, very unlikely.

Ben: But you said earlier–

Marlena: Yes. That it’s possible. Anything is possible. But there’s a very big difference between healthy fear and unhealthy avoidance.

Ben: And you think that’s what this is?

Marlena: I think any child you have is going to grow up in a wonderful and loving home– something you never had. And ciara, she loves you so much. She wants to have a family with you.

Ben: I know that.

Marlena: And if you deny her the chance to be a mother, she’ll accept that… on the surface.

Ben: Well, what do you mean, “on the surface”?

Marlena: Well, when one half of a couple makes a decision that affects them both, there can be a level of resentment.

Ben: So you think ciara would resent me for not wanting to have a kid?

Marlena: I certainly have seen that in my practice. And you know, when there’s that level of resentment it really can damage a marriage.

Ben: So you’re saying?

Marlena: I’m saying go home. Make love to your wife, and see if you can make a baby together. Clerk: Hello, how can I?

Allie: Johnny, I’m not an actress.

Johnny: Neither is abigail, but you have the life experience to play these parts. Nobody knows mom like you do. You know how she acts. You know how she thinks.

Chanel: You do look like her.

Johnny: You would kill this.

Allie: All right, as much as I enjoy you kissing up to me, I just don’t have time. I mean, I’m so busy with the bakery and henry.

Chanel: And tripp.

Johnny: It wouldn’t take that much time. Look, you’re not the star of the movie. We would shoot around your schedule. You make a little money. I’d owe you forever.

Chanel: How can you say “no” to that?

Allie: I thought you were against the movie?

Chanel: Well, I’m just saying it could come in handy to have your twin owe you forever.

Johnny: Think about how much you would enjoy holding that over me.

Chanel: And besides, how can you turn down that face?

Allie: All right, fine. Fine. I will play mom in your movie. I just hope that this does not come back to haunt us.

Roman: John?

John: Hey.

Roman: Where did you just go?

John: Sorry, I just kind of drifted off reminiscing. What do you know about zen?

Marlena: About what?

John: About zen. As in buddhism. It’s very complicated, yet it’s very simple, at the same time. Like the story of the man who wanted to know who buddha was. So he asked him, “are you a god?” And buddha said, “no.” So he asked him, “are you an angel?” And once again, buddha said, “no.” So he said, “you must be a saint.” And for the third time, buddha replied, “no.” So the man said, “what are you?” And buddha looked at him and said, “I am awake.” Well, that’s what the word “buddha” means. Awake. It’s how the whole thing started: With one man who woke up.

Abigail: And you’re right. You know, I was running away from you and my feelings, and just like john said of marlena in the script. But… I’m not doing that anymore.

Chad: If this is too much–

Abigail: No. No, you can keep going.

Chad: Are you sure?

Abigail: Yeah, yeah. Let’s go ahead.

Chad: [Clears throat]

[As john] What do you know about zen?

Abigail as marlena: About what?

Chad: About zen. As in buddhism. It’s very simple, yet very complicated, at the same time.

Julie: Well, ben must be finished with marlena by now, and you should be heading home.

Ciara: Are you sure? I just–I don’t know if you should be alone right now.

Julie: I can be alone, sweetheart. I don’t want you to waste one minute with your precious husband. You’ve lost too much time as it is.

Ciara: All right, as long as you’re sure you’re gonna be okay.

Julie: You know me.

Ciara: Toughest woman I know.

Julie: Runs in the family.

Ciara: Yes, it does. I will be praying for grandpa.

Julie: Thank you, sweetheart.

Ciara: Please let me know when I can visit him.

Julie: Of course.

Ciara: Okay.

Julie: Of course

Ciara: Okay.

Julie: And I hope everything works out for you and ben, and I wish you all the luck in the world, and, oh, you so deserve to be happy. And so does he.

Marlena: What are you waiting for? Go on home.

Ben: This does not sound like you.

Marlena: What do you mean?

Ben: I mean you never tell me what to do. You ask me questions, but then you leave me room to make my own decisions.

Marlena: Yes. I just don’t want you going down the wrong road, you know? Want to stay on the path. I mean you’ve worked so hard to end up with ciara.

Ben: Yeah.

Marlena: So does that clarify everything?

Ben: Yeah. Yeah. Actually, it does, so thank you. Once again, thank you.

Marlena: Yes.

Ben: Get some rest.

Marlena: Yes. You take care.

Ben: Thanks. You too.

[Tense music]


Devil: Good job, marlena. I knew you could do it. On the outside, I looked fine.

Johnny: You don’t have to commit right now, okay? You can go home. Read the script. The scene in the titan conference room is at the very beginning. You don’t even have any lines. You just have to look horrified when you walk in on grandma and grandpa john having sex.

Allie: Yeah, well, that shouldn’t be too hard.

Johnny: I’ll need to see how deeply it hurts: The shock, betrayal. This was a moment that broke mom. Changed her forever, and in this story, it was the inciting incident.

Chanel: The what now?

Johnny: The event that sets everything into motion. It was that carnal sin which invited the devil into salem. There wouldn’t be a story without it.

Abigail as marlena: Why are you telling me that story?

Chad as john: Because that’s how I feel when I’m with you. And no one on this earth and nothing else–

John: Nothing and nobody on this earth makes me feel that way.

Marlena: Don’t do this to me.

John: Oh, god. I know you want to go, and I’m not gonna stop you, but please, there is one thing I need to say, all right? You know what I was going through when isabella died. How I was walking around like a zombie. I was dead inside, until that night on the plane when you and I made love. You gave me life again, doc. And if nothing more comes out of this, I just want to say thank you. One fateful night changed everything. For me. For you. Sami. Marlena. Now here we are, having that part of our lives recreated on the big screen?

Roman: And you’re worried that it’s all gonna bring it rushing back?

John: Well, aren’t you? Come on, man. We’ve worked so hard to put all this behind us here. We don’t know what’s gonna happen, if we open that door.

Roman: Well… you know what? Could be a good thing. Final catharsis. If I’m okay with it, why shouldn’t you be?

John: It’s not about the affair, roman. It’s about marlena being possessed by the devil.

Devil: Brilliantly played, marlena. Using ben’s own love for ciara as a weapon against him? You did me proud.

[Recorder beeps] You think you can get rid of me by shutting off the recorder? After all these years, you should know you can never get rid of me. My nunormal?

Johnny: Thank you for helping me convince allie to do the movie.

Chanel: You did the heavy lifting.

Johnny: Hey, I thought you were terrified of this story?

Chanel: Well, I’m still properly afraid of the devil, like any good girl should be, but I see how passionate you are about this story. I know you’re not gonna give up, and I kinda wanted to move the conversation along.

Johnny: Oh? Why is that?

Chanel: So I could be alone with you.

Johnny: And I could demonstrate my passion in a different way?

Chanel: Exactly.

Chad as john: You want me to leave… I’ll walk out that door right now. And as hard as it may be, I’ll stay out of your life, if that’s what you want.

[In normal voice] Abby, what’s wrong?

Abigail: It says they kiss.

Chad: Yeah, I know.

Julie: You have seen doug?

Kayla: Yeah. I have, and I’m afraid that there’s no change. He’s still very upset and confused.

Julie: But I get to visit him tomorrow, right?

Kayla: Well, I think that we should wait till after the first 24 hours. We need to make sure that the doctors think that he’s not a danger to you anymore.

Julie: I hate this, kayla. I feel so helpless. I’m not there to jog his memory. I’m not there to hold his hand. I’m not there to tell him I love him.

Kayla: I know, but hopefully, soon.

Julie: Well, is there anything I can do?

Kayla: Well, you know me. I’m a doctor, but I believe very strongly in the power of prayer.

Julie: So do I, and I’m gonna keep on praying for my husband till my last breath.

John: I tried to convince johnny, “just leave the possession part out of the script.”

Roman: Okay. What is it you’re worried about?

John: Oh, come on, man. Do I even have to say it?

Roman: That it could happen again? That we’re inviting the devil back into our lives.

John: Why take the risk?

Roman: All right, john. Tell you what. Let me talk with johnny, okay? As big a moment as that was in all our lives, sami’s had a lot of big moments. I think johnny can make the movie without that.

John: Thanks.

Allie: Hey, look. It’s a meeting of the grandpas.

Roman: Hey, look who’s here. How’s it going?

Allie: Not great.

John: No? Why not? What’s wrong?

Allie: Well, I can’t believe it, but I just let johnny talk me into playing mom in his stupid movie.

Roman: Wait a minute. Are we looking at the star of the sami brady story?

Allie: No, I am just a supporting character now.

John: How is that even possible?

Allie: Well, johnny totally rewrote the script. It’s a horror movie now. He even changed the title.

Roman: What’s it called now?

Allie: “Possessed: The marlena evans story.”

[Dramatic eerie music]


Marlena: I don’t understand. Why are you doing this?

Devil: Marlena, I told you we had a lot of work to do.

Marlena: What does any of this have to do with ben?

Ben: Well, I am glad that you at least got to be there for julie.

Ciara: Well, I tried. So how did it go with marlena? Did you talk to her about us starting a family?

Ben: Actually, yes, I did.

Ciara: You did? Well, did it make you feel any better?

Ben: It did.

Ciara: Wait, it did?

Ben: Mm-hmm.

Ciara: So does that mean…

Ben: If you want to have a baby… let’s have a baby.

Devil: Do you want to know what this has to do with ben? What do you think, marlena? I have big plans for ben weston’s baby. Big plans.


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[ Gentle piano music ]

Liam: And the verdict is?

Hope: Sound asleep.

Liam: And what about douglas? How’s his, “I’m reading until midnight, no matter what campaign?”

Hope: Oh, well, that’s not going according to plan.

Liam: Aw. It always cracks me up to see him in there, just like mouth open snoring away with the lights on and an open book on his chest.

Hope: I know, it’s so adorable. I love this. I love our family and the life that we’ve created.

Liam: I do, too. Which is why I think we need to protect it.

Deacon: Look, if you’re trying to hit on me, I just want to say that–

Sheila: Whoa, whoa, whoa. You’re not interested?

Deacon: I mean, don’t get me wrong, you’re…you’re a very attractive woman for a, you know, psychopath. I’ve been down this road before. I do not want to get thrown over another cliff, so I think I am going to politely say, no, thank you.

Sheila: Shattering my dreams, why don’t you.

Deacon: Okay, there’s no need for sarcasm, all right? You’re the one who said, you need me.

Sheila: It’s because I do, deacon. Almost as much as you need me.

[ Sighs ]

Steffy: You’re home. I thought you were going to be gone all night.

Finn: No, I was laser focused to get back here to you.

Steffy: That’s so nice.

Finn: I mean, I must have set a record churning through sick people.

Steffy: That’s not you. You’re a thorough and caring doctor

Finn: When the patient is drop dead gorgeous, potential wife material. Yeah. Otherwise it’s just kind of…

Steffy: Uh huh. Sure.

Finn: Hey, your dad texted me. He said he was sorry that he missed me. He stopped by?

Steffy: Yeah, actually, he had some gossip.

Finn: Some gossip?

Steffy: Yeah, it turns out sheila isn’t the only unwanted visitor to come back into our lives.

Finn: Uh oh. Who now? Do I know him?

Steffy: No, no, and you definitely don’t want to. He’s not a good guy.

Finn: And does he have ties to your family?

Steffy: Unfortunately, yes, thanks to brooke. Hope’s father is out of prison.

[ Clears throat ]

Hope: Was that you’re not so subtle attempt to bring up my dad?

Liam: Not, not very subtle at all, was it? It’s going to come up eventually. And you did kind of just spring him on us today. I get why you want to give him the benefit of the doubt. I do, but, I feel like it’s my job as your husband, as beth’s father to protect you from people just like deacon, because it’s a pattern, right? You open yourself up to him. He’s going to hurt you. You do it again. He’s going to hurt you again. Because that’s what he does.

Deacon: Just so you know, I got no plans of going back to prison. All right? I’m the textbook example of a fully reformed, productive member of society. Oh, molly? Ching-a-ling. Thank you. No. If whatever you’re pitching here and ain’t the up and up, I don’t want to hear about it.

Sheila: Well, that’s rather presumptuous of you. Don’t you think?

Deacon: Well, you do have a reputation.

Sheila: Oh. A reputation of being the forresters’ favorite target, the one that they have maliciously vilified for years and years is that the reputation you’re talking about?

Deacon: I mean, is it malicious if it’s deserved? I mean, it’s not really just one person either, is it? Although in your defence, I may actually be the forrester’s preferred target. I mean, you kind of got to hand it to them, though, right? I mean, they really can hold a grudge, can’t they? I mean, what was the last thing I ever did to any of them that was bad? Nothing. And they’re all running around with their hair on fire because all I want to do is have a relationship with my daughter.

Sheila: Yeah, but you know what? It’s the same for finn and me. I’m not allowed to have contact with him because of mistakes I made in the past, mistakes that I have apologized for. It’s ridiculous. You know, I’m not going to let the forresters tell me who I can and cannot talk to.

Deacon: Good for you.

Sheila: I deserve a place in my son’s life, as you do hope’S.

Deacon: Look, we deserve it, doesn’t mean we’re going to get it.

Sheila: It’ll happen because we’re going to make it happen. Neither one of us have been too good at this on our own. But if we work together, team up to go after those spiteful, horrible people. Imagine what we could accomplish. Shingles? Oh… you mean bill.

Steffy: It’s remarkable how like balanced and accomplished she is, given that deacon’s her father. Like that could have really messed her up, but thankfully my dad took over the father figure role. And that just shows you like, you and hope, no matter your dna, that doesn’t define you, right? I don’t mean to bring her up or anything, I just–

Finn: It’s okay. I get the correlation.

Steffy: It’s a little bit different for hope. You didn’t know your mom. Hope knew her dad. I mean, he wasn’t involved in her upbringing, but she knew that deacon sharpe was her father. How much he was hated. How how awful he was.

Finn: And now he’s back. He’s out of jail and in her life. I wonder how hope feels about all this.

Hope: I know who my father was and yes, still might be, and I get that you’re worried. But liam, I’m not going to let him take advantage of me or use me, I under–

Liam: Okay, but if he did have a hidden agenda, you wouldn’t know that until it’s too late, right?

Hope: Or, maybe it’s not so hidden. Maybe he genuinely does want to get to know me and actually act like a father, a grandfather. I mean, why do we have to assume the worst of him?

Liam: I just… I think it’s okay to tell some people you’re out of chances. You’re not welcome anymore. Like, okay, your dad, your mom, me. We don’t want deacon in our lives for the same reason none of us want sheila in our lives. Just set aside for a second all the times that deacon has let you down. Right? All the times that he’s abandoned you, put that aside. He’s still a con man, right? He’s blackmailed people. He’s kidnapped people. He just got out of jail for trying to shoot someone. Tell me, you understand why I’m saying the guy should not be a part of our lives.

Deacon: All kidding aside, that was a good pitch, but whatever you’re selling, I’m not buying it.

Sheila: Yeah. Well, you know what? If you have to be sold on a relationship with your daughter, then this partnership is probably a bad idea anyway.

Deacon: Of course, I want a relationship with hope, but aligning myself with you isn’t the way to get it.

Sheila: Yeah, but you’re drunk. You’re not seeing the potential.

Deacon: Oh, potential. You wanna talk about potential? Okay, let’s talk about man-eating dobermans or killer bees or whatever the hell else. I’ve heard the stories.

Sheila: I’ve heard stories about yoU. All those ugly things you did. Reformed, or not, neither one of us can claim to be a saint, and that’s what makes collaborating on this so easy. I realized I might be making a deal with the devil, but you know, the truth is we will find a way to be in our children’s lives. I mean, brooke and ridge, they are not going to let you walk through that door and allow hope to let you into her heart. That’s going to take work. Some strategizing. You need my help, deacon. Like it or not, we need each other. Scoot over.

Sheila: You have to admit it makes sense.

Deacon: Sheila, you’re making my head spin all right?

Sheila: No, your head spinning is not because of me.

Deacon: That’s probably right, which means it’s time to get out of here.

Sheila: Whoa, is that a moth I just saw flying out of there?

Deacon: It’s funny.

Sheila: I can take care of this.

Deacon: I can pay my own bills.

Sheila: Yeah, with what? Your library card?

Deacon: Maybe they’ll let me wash dishes or something.

Sheila: That’s just what they want, they want a drunk back there breaking their dishes.

Deacon: I was drunk. Now, i’m just buzzed.

Sheila: Yeah, buzzed and broke it would seem.

Deacon: Yeah, it seems that way, doesn’t it?

Sheila: I’m gonna take care of this, and I’ll call you a car because you shouldn’t be driving like this. Unless you’re right around here. Can you walk home?

Deacon: Home?

Sheila: Deacon, you’ve got nowhere to go? Okay. Well, you do now. You can come stay with me.

Steffy: Was the shower good?

Finn: Oh, yeah, it was great, thank you.

[ Sighs ]

Steffy: You want to talk about it?

Finn: Talk about what?

Steffy: I don’t know. Just seems like there’s something on your mind.

Finn: I was thinking about hope and her dad. And the way he popped back into her life. And obviously, I can relate.

Steffy: Yeah. Yeah, you can. But with sheila, she showed up uninvited. It’s not the case with deacon. Hope knew her dad was coming.

Finn: Oh, that’s fine. So, does she want a relationship with him?

Steffy: I guess. My dad told me that hope was writing letters to him while he was in prison.

Finn: I can understand why. No matter what he’s done, he’s still her father.

Steffy: A father who disappointed her. He’s hurt the people that she’s cared about. Doesn’t matter if he’s her father. He’s not owed a place in her life. He’s lost that privilege& a long time ago.

Liam: I’m not trying to pick a fight with you, I’m not trying to upset you, I’m just… I’m your husband and I’m worried.

Hope: I know, I know you are. And I appreciate that. But liam? I’m being careful and believe me, I am walking into this with my eyes wide open.

Liam: I know, but I don’t want you to walk into it at all.

[ Baby crying ] I’ll go check on her. Look, all I’m saying is if we want the very best for our family, deacon has to stay away. That’s just he has to be. Before you go there,

Steffy: Even if hope is fantasizing that her father’s changed, that prison reformed him, she’s got kids now. This isn’t about hopE. She needs to think about beth and douglas and do whatever it takes to protect them. She needs to set firm boundaries and keep deacon as far away from the kids and her as possible. Like what I did with sheila. If hope is smart, she’ll realize that applies to deacon as well.

Deacon: Stay with you?

Sheila: Not indefinitely, just until you get on your feet, you know, stay for a few days.

Deacon: You know, the last couple of years in prison, the thing that kept me going, I was thinking that I was going to have a role in hope’s life, and now here I am in a bar, drinking again, drinking with sheila carter. No less. So, if that isn’t something to worry about, I don’t know what is.

Sheila: Did you really expect a different outcome? Did you expect the forresters to suddenly, you know, embrace, you?

Deacon: No, I don’t know. Maybe. I…

Sheila: What are you doing?

Deacon: Calling my daughter.

[ Phone chiming ]

Hope: Hello, dad?

Deacon: Hey, sweetheart. You answered.

Hope: Oh yeah. What’s going on?

Deacon: Look, I don’t want to cause any problems. I just, you know, I just wanted to tell you that I–

Liam: Took a minute, but she’s asleep.

Hope: I’m sorry. I got to go. Goodnight.

Deacon: Okay.

Sheila: Bad cell service?

Deacon: No, she hung up on me.

Sheila: I’ve had the same reaction from finn. But I guarantee you, that’s not what hope wanted. Hey, our kids do care, they do want to know us. It’s just that… you know, steffy and liam, they have so much influence over them. And ridge and brooke too. Who do they think they are? Keeping us from our flesh and blood?

Deacon: They act like, you know, we can’t change or something, you know, that we can’t become better people. I know that I have. Question is, have you?

Sheila: I have.

Deacon: Sheila. Look, I’m sorry, but you know, I just… I just can’t be seen with you. You know, I can’t associate with their enemies.

Sheila: Where are you going?

Deacon: Not to your place.

Sheila: Then, what are you going to do? You gonna sleep on the beach? Under an overpass? Look, I have a safe place to stay. I’ve got money in my wallet. And you clearly don’T. Which means you’re going to get a good meal or two. And I’ve had plenty of this.

Deacon: You have booze?

Sheila: Yeah, I got a decent selection. I’ve got everything at my place that a guy getting out of prison might possibly desire.

Deacon: Yeah, but it comes at a price. I gotta work with you.

Sheila: Look, if we can come together and tell the forresters that they can no longer control us or our children, that’s what we need to do. Look, we have a right to know our children, to know our grandchildren. Doing that on our own, deacon, it’s almost impossible. But doing it together, we can get it done.

Deacon: Two ex-cons pathetically trying to work their way back into their kids lives. What could possibly go wrong? I know I’m going to regret this.

Sheila: No, you’re not. You’re not going to regret being a part of hope’s life. Together, we’re going to make this happen. You do exactly what I say, and we’re going to get our kids back. I promise you. Steffy and the forresters aren’t going to know what hit ’em.

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B&B Transcript Monday, October 11, 2021

Bold & The Beautiful Transcript

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Transcript provided by Suzanne

[ Gentle music ]

Steffy: I love that you came by, dad.

Ridge: Of course.

Steffy: It’s great. You just miss finn.

Ridge: Yeah, is he at the hospital?

Steffy: Yeah, life of a doctor.

Ridge: And what about the kiddies?

Steffy: Kiddies are sleeping, so you’re just going to have to settle for your daughter.

Ridge: Ah, my very happy daughter from the look of it.

Steffy: Yeah. Marriage to finn is the best. It’s amazing. I mean, except for–

Ridge: Except for sheila.

Steffy: Yeah. Just knowing that she’s out there lurking somewhere.

Ridge: Well, she is not the only uninvited guest that showed up out of nowhere.

Brooke: I know deacon is your father, honey. But after everything he’s done.

Hope: Mom, please. I already know how you feel about deacon.

Liam: It’s how you feel about him. I mean, you were writing to him in secret. You weren’t telling anyone. You didn’t even tell me.

Hope: And I hated keeping that from you all, but again, I just didn’t want you to worry.

Brooke: Well, of course we were worried. He showed up here like he had every right to be here.

Hope: Because I invited him. He had gotten out, and I thought…

Liam: You wanted to see your father.

Hope: I understand that he has baggage. But–

Brooke: You want to believe that he’s changed.

[ Polka music ]

Deacon: Uno, dos, tres.

[ Grunts ] Oh! Give me one of these. Hi, how would you like to go to acapulco for the weekend? What?

Sheila: Seriously? She is so not into you.

Deacon: I just got to get my mojo back, that’s all.

Sheila: Do you really think a jailbird is gonna catch–

Deacon: Shut up! Come on, you’re gonna ruin this for me.

Sheila: I’m not ruining it, you are. You need to keep focused on what’s important.

Deacon: I was just focusing on what was important.

Sheila: Talking about you and me. What we both want. We both want the same thing. Time with our children. You know, if there’s a will, there’s a way. That has always been my mantra. I need to know that you feel that way too.

Steffy: What are you talking about?

Ridge: Well, hope asked brooke and me to come down to the cabin.

Steffy: For dinner?

Ridge: No, no dinner. No dinner. I don’t even know where to start. Look, I get hope has this great ability to forgive people, but how do you do that after everything. How do you… how do you let that go? How do you allow someone like that in your home?

Steffy: Allowing who in her home?

Ridge: Her father.

Steffy: Deacon?

Ridge: Uh huh. The bad penny’s turned up once again.

Steffy: You’re kidding!

Ridge: No, I’m not. And there’s more.

Hope: Please understand that I know all about deacon’s history, but he is still my dad.

Liam: Of course, he’s your dad, and we know how you feel about second chances, too. But…

Brooke: Deacon has had chance after chance, and every time he’s hurt you and disappointed you.

Liam: Think about our wedding in italy. Like the guy effectively ruined the whole thing.

Hope: Okay, but that was not his idea, it was bill’s idea. He used him–

Brooke: The point is deacon is untrustworthy. He has proven that over and over again. You can’t let him back into your life.

Hope: Mom, please. Please stop. I understand that you have my best interest at heart, both of you. And I love you for it. But I am going into this with my eyes wide open. I have no illusions about my fatheR.

Deacon: Listen, sheila. Whatever kooky schemes you got cooking up–

Sheila: It is not a scheme. It’s a good idea.

Deacon: Call it whatever you want. I want no part of it.

Sheila: You don’t even know what it is.

Deacon: And you know what? I ain’t interested in finding out either. What are you doing?

Sheila: What are you doing? Walking away from the best opportunity you’re ever gonna have to see your daughter and your granddaughter.& That’s what I’m talking about, deacon. Talking about our children and our grandchildren. How we will refuse to be exercised from their lives by the haughty, high-handed forresters and logans. Excuse me, can I get one more shot here? And it’s on me, all right? Come on, you don’t need to rush off, right? It’s not like you have anywhere to go. You’re certainly not gonna go see hope. Brooke probably has the place surrounded with guard dogs by now.

[ Giggling ] You know, all of that could change if you just hear me out.

Deacon: Thank you. Oh. My plaque psoriasis…

Steffy: Thank you so much for fixing that.

Ridge: Anything I can do to help.

Steffy: Still can’t believe it. Hope contacting deacon in prison. Inviting him into her house. Is he still as smug as usual?

Ridge: Well, not according to him. He says he’s a changed person. He’s completely rehabilitated himself because he owed that to hope.

Steffy: Well, hope didn’t completely write him off even though he was behind bars.

Ridge: No. Her letters gave him life.

Steffy: Oh, please! And hope bought it?

Ridge: Fathers and daughters, right? Special bond.

Steffy: Yeah, but deacon? That man is toxic.

Hope: People do change. They can learn from their mistakes.

Brooke: Your father isn’t one of them.

Hope: Well, I’m talking about now. The present. I mean, do you think that maybe incarcerated, locked away by everything and everyone that meant anything to him might have had an impact?

Liam: Hope, we… we realize that as his daughter, of course you’d want that to be true.

Brooke: More than likely, he’s the same old manipulator and you don’t need him in your life, now or ever.

Deacon: You know, you make a very good tequila.

Molly: Thanks.

Deacon: And molly, right?

Molly: Mm-hmm.

Deacon: So about this boyfriend of yours?

Molly: Big, tough, jealous.

Patron: Excuse me?

Deacon: Okay, but what if I told you–

Molly: Sorry. Duty calls.

Deacon: What the hell’s going on here?

Sheila: You’re out of practice.

Deacon: Out of practice. Watch this. Excuse me. Excuse me? Would you like to go ensenada? Because I know you hate acapulco?

Lady: No, thank you.

Sheila: Pathetic.

Deacon: No, you know what it is? You’re cramping my style, all right? Beat it.

Sheila: Oh no.

Deacon: I mean it. Go.

Sheila: Excuse me. Excuse me? Can I get another drink for my friend?

Deacon: I’m not her friend. I’m not your friend.

Sheila: Well, not yet. I mean, but given how much we have in common, I think that it’s going to be that way one day or–yeah!

Deacon: Well, you’re off your rocker. You know that, right? Just like…

Sheila: Why? Because I want to spend time with my son?

Deacon: Right? Your son. The one that married steffy forrester.

Sheila: Finn. Yes.

Deacon: I’m sorry, finn? As in huckleberry? That’s that’s his name? Oh.

Sheila: It’s short for finnegan, his adoptive parents’ last name.

Deacon: Oh, okay.

Sheila: Now, they were wonderful. They gave him a loving, stable home after I gave finn up shortly after he was born.

Deacon: Well, you sure as hell couldn’t have given him a stable home. That’s for damn sure.

Sheila: Yeah, you’re probably right. I wasn’t in a good place back then. I would not have been a good influence on him. That’s why I stayed away.

Deacon: And you stayed away until you found out that old finny boy was getting hitched to a forrester. Then presto! There you are in the flesh, ready to make it happen.

Sheila: Are you insinuating that I would manipulate a situation?

Deacon: Oh no, no, no, no. I’m not insinuating anything. I’m saying it flat out, you’ve manipulated a situation. It’s like who you are. You know, you’re like the grand poobah of manipulations.

Sheila: Yeah, but it… it really wasn’t like that. No, he’s special. He’s a good man. He’s a doctor. He’s handsome, he’s kind, and he and steffy, they have a beautiful, beautiful baby boy together. My grandson, hayes.

Deacon: Hayes? What’s with these names? Do you want this kid to get bullied? I mean, come on. Wait, wait a second, hayes was… hayes was steffy’s mother’s name before she got…

Sheila: Married. Yeah.

Deacon: And this is– just so I understand this, and this is the one that you pumped a couple of bullets into.

Shiela: Why does everybody have to bring that up? No stop it. Look, I’m not here to talk about taylor. All right? I’m here to talk about my flesh and blood.

Deacon: Right, this is the baby that you gave up for adoption, then became a doctor, went on to marry steffy forrester. So now you’re the grandmother, this kid.

Sheila: I’m not making this up.

Deacon: I mean, you know, I have heard all the sordid stories about, you know, you and how you desperately wanted to become a part of the forrester clan. Son of a– you actually did it. Wow. So, that means that this this pure little innocent baby is half forrester and half you? Oh, wow. I’ll drink to that.

Sheila: And boom, right?

Deacon: Wow.

[ Giggling ] Nice work. My hygienist cleans with a round head.

Steffy: When you think about it, hope’s reaction to deacon is very similar to how finn reacted about sheila. I mean, she’s awful, but she’s–

Ridge: It doesn’t change the fact that she’s his birth mother.

Steffy: Yeah, that’s true. I mean, deacon is a loser. He really is. But he is hope’s father, and she can’t quite shake him, even though she should.

Ridge: Same way that finn needs to shake sheila.

Steffy: And he knows he has to do that for our sake, for our family. I just pray hope comes to that conclusion. Deacon is trouble, and he has no place in hope’s life or beth’S. Just like sheila has no place in finn’s or hayes’.

Hope: I hear everything you are both saying.

Brooke: Good. Because deacon will say all the right things, honey. He is a con man.

Hope: Mom, I understand what you are saying, but I’m a grown woman, and this decision wasn’t made impulsively and I’m entitled to want to try to pursue a relationship with my dad.

Brooke: But this isn’t just about you. This is also about your daughter. He wanted to see beth, remember? And thank god she was out with douglas and donna. But what if deacon comes back tomorrow or the next day or the next?

Liam: Exactly. The bottom line is the guy’s not a good influence.

Brooke: And he’s definitely not the kind of person you want to have around beth, ever. You know, he can’t be in her life. You do know that, don’t you?

Deacon: The next round’s on me, ladies.

Sheila: They are so not into you.

Deacon: How can they not be in the me?

Sheila: Why don’t you focus on what’s important?

Deacon: You mean what’s important to you, this whole con thing you got going on?

Sheila: Whoa, whoa, wait a minute, I’m not the con man here, you are. And for the record, I didn’t come into finn’s life to disrupt it.

Deacon: Oh no, no, no. You just happen to show up out of the blue with the most important moment of his life. He’s marrying steffy forrester. Stephanie’s namesake. Your departed arch rival. No, no, no. I’m not buying this. All right? You were probably putting together this poignant little mother-son scheme for months.

Sheila: It wasn’t like that. It was not a manipulation.

Deacon: Whatever it was, this has been fun. But I got better things to do than sit around and listen to you whine about the forresters.

Sheila: Wait a minute, you were the one that was talking about the forresters. Sitting here having a pity party for yourself because they wouldn’t let you see hope. Look, deacon, like it or not, we have something in common. We both want to see our children and we would be. If the forresters weren’t keeping us from seeing them. I’ve lost count of how many asthma attacks I’ve had.

Ridge: Deacon needs to stay away from hope and beth if he cares about them at all. Which, for a minute, I don’T… I don’t think he does. I don’t think he cares about ’em.

Steffy: Sheila doesn’t care about finn, either. If she did, she wouldn’t have revealed to him that she was his birth mother. She knew it was going to create chaos, but that’s what she lives for. Upending lives.

Ridge: Same with this clown. He knew there was going to be fireworks, but it didn’t stop them.

Steffy: That’s why it’s really important for hope and finn to not have any contact with their criminal sick parents. I made it very clear to finn. I’m just praying that liam does the same for hope.

Hope: Mom, I will always protect my little girl and do what’s best for her.

Brooke: Of course you will, honey. Because you’re a wonderful, loving mother. But deacon looks for vulnerabilities in people, and he exploits them. I just want you to be careful.

Liam: That’s all I want. I mean, I’ll admit it, I don’t know everything about your dad because most of it happened before we even met, but, it, it kind of freaked me out that you were secretly corresponding with him.

Brooke: Deacon is dangerous and so is sheila, and they both need to be kept away from their families at all costs.

Deacon: I’m just going to say this once, all right? I don’t want to be a part of whatever it is that you’re suggesting.

Sheila: Why not?

Deacon: Because if I ever want to have a relationship with hope and my granddaughter, I can’t be associating with a sheila-devil like you.

Sheila: A sheila-devil?

Deacon: Truth hurts, sorry.

Sheila: Oh, truth. The truth. Is that what we’re talking about here right now? Why don’t we talk about the true life of a deacon sharpe, huh? Deacon the has-been drunk. Deacon, the ex-con. Deacon, the liar extraordinaire. You know, hanging out with you. It wouldn’t exactly boost my reputation, either.

Deacon: Oh, your reputation. Okay. Listen, next to you, I’m a saint.

Sheila: Okay. Look, let’s just not do this. All right? It’s bad enough that we have the forresters dictating our lives, telling us who we can and can’t see. If you and I start attacking each other, too, I mean, we’re not the problem. Steffy forrester is the problem. My son wants to see me. There’s no way steffy is ever going to let me see finn or hayes.

Deacon: You know, I’m the one who’s getting ganged up on here. Brooke and ridge, liam. You know, they’re triple teaming me. I mean, it’s all sorts of wrong, too, because hope reached out to me first.

Sheila: She reached out to you because she cares about you, deacon. Just like finn cares about me. I really think that if we can reach out to hope and finn and work together on this–

Deacon: Come on, no. We’re not working together, all right? I mean, come on, you’re frigging nuts, lady. We can’t do– look, this has been fun, but I got to go find some action and it’s not here, okay?

Sheila: Whoa. Whoa, whoa. Wait. Come on. Please. We can take down the forresters. I am desperate here. Please, deacon. We can’t do this alone. Together, we can do anything. Anything.

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Interview with Javicia Leslie and Robin Givens

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Interview with Javicia Leslie and Robin Givens of “Batwoman” on The CW by Suzanne 10/11/21

This was a short but enjoyable interview! I watch this show every week, so I was thrilled to speak with them. Because there were 8 people at this press panel, I was only able to ask one question, unfortunately.

Question:   Javicia, could you talk about Ryan’s initial encounter with Poison Ivy?

Javicia:   Oh, my goodness. We haven’t had Ryan’s encounter with Poison Ivy yet, so it’s a little bit harder to talk about. You know, actually, Bridget [Regan] just started, and I wasn’t the first character that she’s worked with yet, but I’m super excited to work with her. I think it’s going to be an amazing addition and an amazing character to play with.

Question:   This question is for Javicia. In season two, there was a lot around the cowl. It felt like Mary and Luke were both like, “This is temporary. This is a temporary thing,” and it wasn’t until the very end of the season, where they were kind of like, “Yeah, this is yours now, and Ryan is Batwoman.” How has that changed the way that you approached the character in season three?

Javicia:   …I feel like a lot of the journey of Ryan feeling like she was worthy enough to be Batwoman did happen in season two, and yeah, you’re right, by the end of season two – she goes into season three with the acceptance of like, “I am that woman. This is my job. It is my job to protect the citizens. It is my job to keep order. It is my job to make sure that there is really a middleman between the GCPD and Gotham City. So yeah, it makes a huge impact on this season, on a lot of the things that are happening this season, just the confidence of knowing that Ryan no longer has to prove herself as Batwoman, but, I mean there’s still a lot of challenges that come up where she starts to kind of feel like, “Oh, no, did I mess other things up that are very important to the bat?” I can’t say what they are, but yeah.

Question:   This question is also for Javicia. What was it like when you read the season two finale scripts and found out that your mom was alive? Then, what was your reaction when you found out Robin Givens I was gonna be your mom?

Javicia:   I knew that was gonna be a question…So, at the end, I was shocked. I think I found out a little bit before I read the script, but even when I found out, I was shocked, because I just knew Ryan’s mom isn’t alive, that’s the story of my character. Then, I got super excited, because all I could think to myself is, “Oh my goodness, you’re gonna get to find out more about [Ryan]. I’m gonna get to find out more about Ryan.” You know what I mean? I’m gonna get to find out about her history and her story and what influences her, what could influence her.

Then, come on now, it’s Miss Robin Givens. I grew up watching Robin Givens. First of all, I still don’t think that we are even at the age distance apart for her to play my mom, but it’s really cool to pretend like this can be realistic, because she is such a joy to work with, and as an actor, it’s an honor to be able to really play with the greats. You know, you’re lucky if you can even sometimes grace presence with them on the stage together, but then for her to play my mom, and we’re having these one on one scenes together – I was saying earlier, I’m just constantly like, “Oh, okay, I see what she did there. I’ll try that later.” You know what I mean? I’m taking notes, because that’s the whole part of this journey, as well, is learning throughout the process.

Question:   I want to know, Javicia, if you could talk about what it was like for you stepping into the Batwoman suit for the first time? And then, Robin, It looks like you have a wardrobe of designer dresses and everything, so if you could talk a bit about that too.

Javicia:   The suit is epic. I think Maya Mani, our costumer at Batwoman, does such an amazing job with the suit. I think the way it fits, the streamlining, the the shape and silhouette that it creates, it’s so powerful. It’s so womanly, yet it’s still very badass, like, “Don’t mess with me.” So, I always say, whenever I put on the suit, I automatically feel like a superhero, because it does grab me up like this, and it makes me walk with my shoulders back and my head high, and you automatically kind of like feel the responsibility of being a hero.

Robin:   I have to say, in a similar way for Jada Jet, it’s not this superhero costume, but you really see how people and costume designers win Oscars right for what they do, and it really helps you create a character. So, everything about the way Jada dresses says everything about her. I’m so different than Jada and a lot of the women that I play, but clearly when you put on those tight dresses, there’s only one way to walk in those high heeled shoes, and it really establishes the character. So, yeah, she’s dresses very well.

If you don’t mind go back, I just thought about something. Javicia and I’ve been talking quite a bit off set, and then, today we’re on set, and then whenever you kind of talk about me, it’s interesting, because I think of the first time when I did The Women of Brewster Place, and I found out Cicely Tyson was going to be my mom. I remember being so intimidated the first day walking into hair and makeup. Javicia and I got to have dinner together, so we got to feel each other’s rhythm a little bit. But I’ll never forget being in hair and makeup, and Cicely had her headphones on, and I was just thoroughly intimidated. She just seem like, “Oh my gosh.” And when I got to meet this lady, we became dear dear friends, and she’s the funniest person you could imagine. She’s like Javicia; like the times we have when we’re just cracking up. So, I don’t know. I just had a little bit of a flash of of that, you know, that sense of things. So, it warms my heart.

Javicia:   Yeah, it’s an honor.

Suzanne:   Javicia, Ryan has a lot to deal with this year. Last year, she almost gave up and died. What do you think gives her the inner strength, and the will to keep going despite all the odds against her?

Javicia:   You know what she reminds me of? There are people in this world that they know their goal. They know what makes them feel like they’re alive, and they will do that to the day they die, to their last breath. That’s kind of what I take Ryan for. She’s a type of person where it’s like, “I can’t sit still. I have to help people, because no one helped me, and I want to make sure that I can help others the way I wish someone could have helped me.” So, it’s just like that’s why she gets into these moments of like, “This may be my last breath, but I’m not going to stop.” There was never a moment where she would have ever quit helping people. Whether she quit being Batwoman is different, and that’s because she felt like it wasn’t hers. You know what I mean? But she definitely would have never stopped helping people, because it’s who she is from the core.

Question:   …Can you both talk about Nick, as the son for you Robin, and Javicia, as your brother?

Javicia:   …Yeah he’s my brother. So, Marquis is a very interesting character. He’s so dynamic, and he’s so colorful and layered. I really look forward to you guys watching the development of Marquis. I think Marquis is going to be one of the biggest unexpected twists in the show, and it’s really going to open up a lot of doors and a lot of conversations.

What I love that Caroline [Dries] has done, is every season, it’s really her focus to bring up something that’s really happening in the world and it being something that we focus on through our storytelling. So, like, last season, the Black Lives Matters episode and everything that kind of surrounded it was obviously mirroring what was happening in the United States.

So, for this season, a lot of it has to do with mental health. So, I’m really excited, because Nick Creegan, who plays Marquis, is such a talented, dynamic actor, and to be able to play in this world, but also play with a theme that’s so personal and real to so many of us, he does it so amazingly well. So, it’s just an honor to be able to play with him. Literally, when he and Robin and I have scenes together, we leave like, “Yo, that was so much fun. I can’t believe we were able to do that.”

Robin:   I have to say…we need to have this gathering again a little bit later. You’re going to be blown away by Nick and what he does. This character, it is unbelievable, and history making as well, and captivating and current and cool.

And for me, I have to say, what I love about this character, and I’ve been saying it, is yes, I played some powerful women before, and Jada Jet is so awesome and so powerful and runs a major company in Gotham City, but she’s a mom. She is a mom, and this is her soft spot, to the point where it could be her Achilles heel that she’s willing to do anything. And listen to me; hear me when I say “anything” for her children. I think the dynamic between Jada and Ryan, I mean, at first she keeps Ryan at bay, because of the guilt she feels about not being in Ryan’s life, but then, do we get close? Will I put her in danger being close to her, wanting to protect her, just loving her so much? So, I love that, because I’m a mom. So, I love that. I’m playing this powerful woman, but I’ve never kind of done it with that kind of sensibility of mom underneath it all. And even Javicia tells a story about one of the scenes that she and I and Nick did where she’s so much of a mom and does such peculiar things that Javicia was even like, “Maybe I don’t want to be a part of this family. Uh oh.”

Question:   I have a question for Miss Javicia. So, Batwoman has pretty much always been a queer icon and icon in the queer community, but with your casting, now she’s also a an icon in the black community. So, my question is, when did it hit you that you’re representing these minority communities, and what does that mean to you?

Javicia:   Honestly, no matter what role I do, I’m representing that, because that’s my community, you know what I mean? It’s really cool when the stories represent me as well, obviously, but I feel like one of the most important parts of representation is that even if the story isn’t about race, even if the story isn’t about gender, just us existing is that representation. So, anytime I get the honor of playing any character on TV, I feel like it’s my job to be my community’s representation [of] the best that I can be. Since that’s what always my goal is, it allows me not to put so much weight onto that and just put more weight into the work, you know what I mean? Like, it’s beautiful that it checks these boxes.

So, what I want to do is I want to match the quality of the storytelling with the history that it’s making. I don’t want to just be the first black Batwoman…When you turn it on, you’re watching it, and you’re captivated by the storytelling, by the storylines, by the the castings and the dialogue and the performances, that’s what I want to bring to life. I want that if I’m that representation, that I’m worthy to be of that representation. I think that this show, in the writing of it and the characters involved, allow that to happen. That’s why I’m really, really excited about the season. I’m more excited about this season than my first season. I’m really excited about this season, because I think that everything matches to the level of being able to say, “Wow, she’s black, she’s queer, and I feel proud of what they’re doing over there. I feel proud of that show.” It is a great representation of my community. That’s what I want to be a part of.

Question:   My question is for both of you, starting with Javicia. I was wondering, as Ryan, when she finds out her mother’s alive and later on, interact[s] with her, from a psychological standpoint, does that have any influence [on you] or impact you as Batwoman? For Robin, can you talk about the psychological impact as well of learning more about Ryan?

Javicia:   I mean, it definitely influences [her], because at the end of the day, there’re so many secrets that are happening at the same time that Ryan’s on this journey, and then, they start to conflict. Her journey of her trying to figure out this situation with her mom starts to conflict with her role as Batwoman, because at the end of the day, my job is to protect Gotham City. And if at any time, someone I love is interfering in that, it becomes a very complicated situation. That plays on a lot of different levels this season, like a lot of different levels, not just with, obviously, Jada Jet, but with other characters as well. So, psychologically, I think that it’s a very, obviously, tricky situation to be in when it’s your mom. You know what I mean? Like, no matter how much she wasn’t there, Ryan wants this relationship, because who wouldn’t want this relationship? And I think, more than anything, what Ryan wants to find out is that there had to be a reason why you gave me up. Ryan doesn’t want to feel like, “Oh, you just gave me up, because you didn’t want me.” She wants to feel like you gave me up, because, I don’t know, were you being hurt? Was it unplanned? So, that becomes very conflicted in her journey as well.

Robin:   Yeah, I think that whole mother-daughter, you really see it, and especially being in the inside doing a scene with Ryan, and it seems adversarial at first, Ryan for her reasons, and Jada for her reasons of wanting to keep her at bay. Then, it’s nice to watch them become mother and daughter. Then, my daughter just happens to really know how to kick butts, like a serious bad ass. We do one scene, [and there’s] a look of, “Whoa!” But I think the psychology of dealing with the guilt that Jada feels, you know, and Jada just as a woman, I love the fact that her being a mother is really, like I said, could be her Achilles heel, and her love for her children. I mean, she loves and adores Ryan, and that brings up, I think, a lot of guilt for her that she wasn’t in her life. I think Ryan, you know, I can feel Ryan wanting to protect her. I can feel Ryan feeling her vulnerability. In spite of however Jada comes off, I see Ryan looking at me with these big eyes saying, “Love me. Am I okay? I did okay.” And that’s really nice to watch an actress play, to be this bad ass, put on this suit, kick butt, then, in a simple way, just say, “Am I enough? Do you think I did okay?”

Question:   What is something that we’re going to see this season for Ryan or Batwoman that we haven’t seen before?

Javicia:   The dynamic of a mother, which is a huge influence, mentally, emotionally, especially, is going to be a huge influence on the bat team. I don’t think that we realize how much that’s going to affect Ryan’s place in the bat team and the bat team’s place in Ryan’s life, because there’s a difference between the family that you choose and the family that you were born into. I think the moment that Ryan starts to feel like she has a family, starts to feel like [she] belongs somewhere, where she went a long time not feeling like she had anywhere to belong.

Another big change is we might see a little bit of romance in Ryan’s life, because we really didn’t get to see that last season. So, I’m excited for for that side of Ryan; I haven’t played that side of Ryan. So, I’m actually excited to play it, because I haven’t played it, and I would love to see what my natural Ryan instincts are going to be in the romance world. I’m probably a dork, to be honest, [laughs] because I am, and me and Ryan are so much alike. I’m glad I don’t have to like make the first move, because I kind of suck at that.

What else will we see? Oh, we’re bringing in a lot of the bat villains, so you’re gonna get to see Ryan interact with characters like Poison Ivy and the Mad Hatter, and like, come on; that’s really cool. This season of Batwoman is gonna be epic. It really is.

Here is the audio version of it.

Interview Transcribed by Jamie of


Wednesday, October 13 SEASON PREMIERE – “Mad As A Hatter” – (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET) (TV-14, LV) (HDTV)
SEASON PREMIERE – As Batwoman (Javicia Leslie) continues to keep the streets of Gotham safe, Batwing (Camrus Johnson) joins in on the action, but Luke quickly realizes he hasn’t quite mastered his suit. Meanwhile, as Alice (Rachel Skarsten) sits hopelessly imprisoned in Arkham, Sophie (Meagan Tandy) fully enjoys her freedom. When Ryan pays Alice a visit to ask about the bombshell she dropped – that Ryan’s birth mother is still alive – Ryan must decide if she should go down the rabbit hole of her past. As Mary (Nicole Kang) prepares to finally graduate from medical school, she feels the absence of her family more than ever. But when an Alice admirer stumbles upon one of the missing Bat Trophies, Gotham and the Bat Team get mixed up in the madness, culminating in a shockingly gruesome graduation… and an equally shocking new partnership. Also starring Robin Givens and Victoria Cartagena. Holly Dale directed the episode written by Caroline Dries (#301). Original airdate 10/13/2021. Every episode of BATWOMAN will be available to stream on The CW App and the day after broadcast for free and without a subscription, log-in or authentication required. Promo


Wednesday (9:00 – 10:00 p.m. ET) on The CW

In season three of “Batwoman,” Ryan Wilder (Javicia Leslie) has shed her parole for the Batsuit and her van for the Batcave to carry out the legacy of Batwoman and protect Gotham’s underserved communities. Her journey continues as she and the Bat Team focus on finding Batman’s scattered trophies, a collection of objects seized from Gotham’s most infamous villains, before they land in pernicious hands. Meanwhile, Ryan personally struggles with the bombshell dropped by Alice (Rachel Skarsten) – that her birth mother is still alive.

Alice is locked up in Arkham and holding on to hope that her father, a recently incarcerated Jacob Kane, will save her…but nothing can keep an evil woman down. Mary (Nicole Kang) is graduating from medical school and finding difficulty juggling her roles as a full-fledged MD at her clinic and as a vital part of the Bat Team. At the same time, Luke (Camrus Johnson) is winging it as a superhero after discovering a suit made for him by his father, but he soon realizes it takes more than a suit to be super. Having said goodbye to Kate and the Crows, Sophie (Meagan Tandy) feels free to find a new purpose, but while making the most of her newly liberated lifestyle, she finds herself in the middle of an exciting but very unexpected love triangle.

As visits from villains past loom over Gotham and anyone can become a baddie by finding a wayward Bat trophy, Renee Montoya (Victoria Cartagena) steps in to supervise recovery of the scattered artifacts, forcing an unwelcome partnership between Gotham’s favorite hero and most notorious ne’er-do-well. And despite best efforts to avoid her newly uncovered past, Ryan is thrust into the world of super mogul Jada Jet (Robin Givens) and her son Marquis (Nick Creegan) when Wayne Enterprises lands on the radar of another one of Gotham’s most powerful families.

BATWOMAN stars Javicia Leslie, Rachel Skarsten, Meagan Tandy, Nicole Kang, Camrus Johnson, Victoria Cartagena, Robin Givens, and Nick Creegan.

Based on the characters from DC, BATWOMAN is from Berlanti Productions in association with Warner Bros. Television with executive producers Greg Berlanti (“Arrow,” “The Flash,” “Supergirl”), Caroline Dries (“The Vampire Diaries,” “Smallville”), Geoff Johns (“Arrow,” “The Flash,” “Titans,” “DC’s Stargirl”), Chad Fiveash (“The Vampire Diaries,” “Gotham”), James Patrick Stoteraux (“The Vampire Diaries,” “Gotham”) and Sarah Schechter (“Arrow,” “The Flash,” “Supergirl”).


Day and time: Wednesday, 8:00 – 9:00 PM ET/PT
Network debut: October 6, 2019

Short Synopsis:



In season three of BATWOMAN, Ryan Wilder (Javicia Leslie) has shed her parole for the Batsuit and her van for the Batcave to carry out the legacy of Batwoman and protect Gotham’s underserved communities. Her journey continues as she and the Bat Team focus on finding Batman’s trophies, a collection of objects seized from Gotham’s most infamous villains, before they land in the wrong hands.


Javicia Leslie as Ryan Wilder/Batwoman

Rachel Skarsten as Alice

Meagan Tandy as Sophie Moore

Nicole Kang as Mary Hamilton

Camrus Johnson as Luke Fox

Victoria Cartagena as Renee Montoya

Robin Givens as Jada Jet

Nick Creegan as Marquis Jet
Executive Producers: Greg Berlanti, Caroline Dries, Geoff Johns and Sarah Schechter
Produced by:





Berlanti Productions in association with Warner Bros. Television


Drama 60 min

(Filmed in HD)

Origination: Vancouver, British Columbia


Javicia Leslie plays Ryan Wilder AKA BatwomanRyan Wilder in “Batwoman”

Javicia Leslie stars as Ryan Wilder, a goofy, relatable, and street-smart lesbian who transforms into the hero Gotham’s been missing in The CW’s highly anticipated new drama “Batwoman.”

Leslie is known to television audiences for her role as Ali Finer on “God Friended Me” and Paris Duncan on “The Family Business.” On the feature film front, she recently tackled the lead role in hilarious new comedy, “Always a Bridesmaid,” penned by NAACP nominated Yvette Nicole Brown. Leslie also directed two short films this year, “Black Excellence” and “Howl.”

Born in Germany and raised in Maryland, Leslie graduated from Hampton University where she appeared in several productions including “Seven Guitars,” “For Colored Girls” and “Chicago.” As driven philanthropically as she is in her career, Leslie started The Chandler Foundation which gives back to youth in her community. When not filming, she spends her free time with her dog and staying healthy through her passion for fitness.

Robin Givens plays Jada Jet, Ryan's motherRobin Simone Givens (born November 27, 1964) is an American actress and model. She is also a graduate of Sarah Lawrence College.

Givens landed her breakthrough role of Darlene Merriman in the ABC sitcom Head of the Class in 1986, and remained on the series for its 5-year duration. Her troubled marriage to boxer Mike Tyson from 1988 drew considerable media attention, as did their acrimonious divorce. She later went on to become a spokesperson for the National Domestic Violence Hotline for several years.

Givens continued her career with film and television roles such as The Women of Brewster Place (1989) and Boomerang (1992). In 1996, Givens co-starred on the sitcom Sparks, which aired for two seasons on UPN. In January 2000, she took over hosting duties on the syndicated talk show Forgive or Forget. In 2007, Givens released her autobiography, Grace Will Lead Me Home. She has since had recurring roles on The Game, Tyler Perry’s House of Payne, Chuck, Riverdale and its spin-off Katy Keene. She starred in “Ambitions” on OWN in 2019.

From Entertainment Weekly:

She has been cast in the series regular role of Jada Jet, the powerful CEO of Jet Industries who “isn’t bossy — she’s the boss.” Described as “passionate and hard-working,” Jada is “a woman who has worked her way through life’s ups and downs to climb her way to the top — all while being extremely protective over her impetuous son.”

But perhaps the most important part of Jada’s character description is the revelation that she has “a deep past that forced her to give up her first-born child.”

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Interview with the cast of “Chucky”

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actors from "Chucky" on Syfy

Interview with creator Don Mancini and actors Zackary Arthur, Brad Dourif, Devon Sawa, and Jennifer Tilly of “Chucky” on Syfy by Suzanne 9/13/21

This was a very fun press panel for TCA about the new Syfy show “Chucky,” based on the “Child’s Play” movies. I was surprised at how my question was answered, but that’s okay…that’s part of the fun of interviewing – you never know what kind of answer you’ll get!
I’m not really a horror fan. I don’t mind some shows, like “Supernatural” or “Legacies,” but I find horror movies and many of the shows to be very depressing and too gross, so I avoid them. The “Chucky” first episode is not too gory, but apparently it does get more so, judging from what said here.
Also, I like to root for the hero, and in these type of shows, the horror entity (in this case, Chucky) usually wins. Or at least, he’ll kill off an awful lot of people before he dies.

USA & SYFY Chucky
Zackary Arthur, Actor, “Jake Webber”
Brad Dourif, Actor, Voice of “Chucky”
Devon Sawa, Actor, “Logan Wheeler”
Jennifer Tilly, Actor, “Tiffany Valentine”
Don Mancini, Creator/Showrunner/Executive Producer
Virtual via Zoom September 13, 2021

I asked this question: I haven’t seen any of the “Child’s Play” movies, but I assume that they have a lot more gore and violence than the TV show. Was that a decision you made, or did the network tell you not to make it too gory? Or how did that come about?”

They all laughed when I said that, which was a bad sign. Don Mancini, the showrunner, replied that I should just wait. In other words, it does get a lot more gory and violent. Oh, that’s too bad. Well, now I know not to watch any more of the shows. Stars Zackary Arthur and Jennifer Tilly chimed in to add that they have a whole “blood team” that works on the movie. Mancini continued to say that it was important to him to retain “all of the aspects of the franchise that the fans love, one of which is the gore, the other of which, of course, is Chucky’s propensity for dropping f-bombs. And the networks SYFY and USA, when we pitched the project, assured us that there would be no compromise in these departments.” He went on to explain that when he worked on “Hannibal” for NBC, and “Channel Zero” for Syfy (both for NBC/Universal), he was surprised at how far they let him push the envelope on this sort of thing. He mentioned that there will be “no compromises” in that regard. He went on to remind us that in the first episode, the first death that Chucky causes has no blood because he’d heard his new buddy Jake say that he doesn’t like seeing blood. He chuckled, “that’s Chucky’s idea of being thoughtful.”

Mancini was also asked if he’d ever thought of exploring the childhood of the original murderer, Charles Lee Ray (the ghost that inhabits the Chucky doll) for a movie sequel before. He concurred that fans have been wanting to see that for decades. this was one of the reasons he wanted to do a TV series, where there’s a lot more time to delve into his background and other “storytelling.”

Another reporter asked about other stylistic changes between the movie and the TV show. Mancini replied, it’s very important to me, and I try to have a different overriding, governing aesthetic for each film” and now with the TV show. This is the first time they’ve presented Chucky during the Halloween season. He wanted to really have a “luxurious and glamorous
autumn look with fall foliage …that became the central aesthetic principle.” This gave them some challenges because they shot it during the spring and summer seasons. They had to have trucks bring in artificial fall leaves for them to spread around the set. They had also shot drone footage least year of the fall outdoors, outside of Toronto, where they shoot the show. He added, “it looks like a Halloween horror movie as directed by Dario Argento or Brian De Palma. At least, that was our goal.”

Tilly praised their production designer and cinematographer, who made the show look beautiful. She feels that it looks very different from “Cult of Chucky,” which took place in the winter in a mental institution, where it was very sterile. She says that the set design looks very expensive, and maintains that it is, indeed, expensive. She was surprised at how much money they have for the series. Devon Sawa added in his two cents that he, also, was shocked when he arrived at how big their budget must be, since there were so many departments, and how many people that were working in them. He also praised at the beautiful job they did on the look of the show. “It looks stunning. It’s so beautiful to look at.”

Then a journalist asked Sawa and Zackary Arthur, who are new to the franchise, what their perceptions were before they joined, and what questions they’d had. Sawa admitted that he was already a fan, having grown up with the Chucky series of movies. He leaped at the chance to audition for it. He piled on the kudos to both Chucky and his voice, Brad Dourif, calling them “legends.” He said, Chucky belongs on the Mount Rushmore of horror with, you know, Krueger and Jason.” He was thrilled to be part of this show. Mancini jokingly gave him a hard time for not mentioned the script, too, but Sawa seriously added, quickly, that the script was great, too. He also loved playing twins in the show.

Tilly jokingly asked Arthur, “Do you have anything flattering to add about Don to that question?” and he replied that he always does. Then he continued in a more serious vein that he wasn’t allowed to watch gory movies when growing up, but he envied the cool kids in school who watched and loved the Chucky movies. Tilly added, “Yeah, now they’re all losers,” and he replied, also joking, “Yeah. That’s what happens when you watch violent movies.” He also said that he felt very cool auditioning for the series.

As they joked more about Mancini, he playfully told them to stop it. Tilly mentioned seriously that they’re lucky to have Arthur, and that Mancini had told her what a great actor he is. She gave us an example of a scene where he and another actor, Bjorgvin Arnarson (Devon), kiss. She explained, “They have a moment of human connection. And everybody on the set was
weeping because it was so touching.” She also said that she was excited about working with Sawa, whom she loved in “Final Destination.”

A journalist mentioned the 2019 remake, which none of them participated in. He/she wondered if doing the TV series was a way to reclaim it. Tilly answered that the TV series was already being considered long before that. Even though the film did very well, she compares it to the “New Coke vs. Classic Coke” situation. She thinks people will like the series better because they have the original Chucky, Brad Dourif, who thinks that he wouldn’t do the remake without Mancini. Dourif corrected her, though, saying, they didn’t call him, but he would have done that. Mancini joked, “Great story, Jennifer, but it never happened.”

Tilly went on, saying that the wonderful thing about the franchise is how loyal the fans are. She expressed that they’re twice as fanatical as Trekkies. The internet helped her realize how much of an icon Chucky is and how he and her character, Tiffany, are loved worldwide. She’s very grateful to Don for writing her so much into the TV show. She would have been happy to just have a tiny part, but he gave her much more. She gushed, I can’t help but blurt out things like, ‘Thank you, Don.
Thank you for the wonderful scripts. And thank you for putting me in the television series.’ Because his writing is so
amazing.” She also let us know that Brad Dourif’s daughter, Fiona, appears in the second half of the season, and we also see the return of Andy Barclay (Alex Vincent) and Kyle (Christine Elise).

She also added that the show’s story is “just such a beautiful coming-of-age movie. I mean, you kind of don’t even need Chucky because the relationship between Zackary and the other kids is really just you’re rooting for them. You want to know where it goes.” She praises the actors who play the teens.

Another person from the press asked Arthur and Sawa whether they were worried when they signed on to the series whether their characters would be killed or not by Chucky. He/she also wondered if Sawa asked to play twins. Sawa had a funny answer: “Of course, my worry was dying on the show because both my characters are giant assholes.” He agreed that you do hope for the “best death scene possible” or that one of them will live.

Tilly added that she never worries about dying because Tiffany dies in every movie, and yet Mancini keeps bringing her back to life (just as he does with Chucky). She says that the franchise is “magical.”

Mancini jumped in the question to say that they also re-use the same actors frequently in other roles. He claimed, “We were doing that before Ryan Murphy started doing that with the repertoire company he put together on ‘American Horror Story.’ So even if someone dies, they can come back in another role.” He started that with Tilly in the 90’s. She’s gotten killed as both a person and as a doll, and brought back for four movies as well as the series. Brad has also died once or twice in eveyr movie. He half-joked that “if Zack and Devon play their cards right, the sky’s the limit, regardless of what happens to their characters.” Brad Douriff agreed to what he said.

Tilly hinted that a line of dialogue in the series refers to this point. She didn’t want to mention more due to spoilers.
She boasted that she’s been suggesting to Mancini for 30 years that they tell the origin story in a better way than they did in the movies (with younger actors). She and Dourif agreed that the fans will be excited to see this. She added that there is a lot of fan fiction about it — “the two of them before they became dolls.” Tilly teased that Don is the biggest fan of the “Chucky” franchise than anyone. She cites bringing back Andy Barclay as an adult as one example of the lengths Mancini goes to. She thinks that there is a lot more of a “throughline” in their franchise because of using the same actors, and that brings more “emotional impact.” Dourif added that it’s really worked well on “an acting level,” which he finds surprising. He added that he found Alex Vincent to be “hauntingly good.” He suggests that really living with the franchise may have affected him and his work… “Things get inside you and they mean something.” He mentioned that his daughter, who grew up with “Chucky,” did really well, probably because she “grew up in the house of Chucky.” Tilly and Sawa praised his daughter’s acting, which leds to Dourif joking that he done a great job of fishing for those compliments.

Tilly went on some more about how much she loved the first “Chucky” movie she did. She was not interested in it at first, but the writing in the script impressed her as did Brad Dourif’s acting as well as his daughter’s. She mentioned in passing that he was nominated before for an Oscar (For “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” in 1976), which I’d forgotten. She had also never done voice-over, and she said it was a lot of fun, and they let them ad-lib there. She said, enthusiastically, that Brad is brillint. “It wasn’t like, ‘Oh, I’m a doll and you’re a doll. Let’s knock this off and go spend our paycheck.’ He really took it seriously.” She gave an example from their filming of “Bride of Chucky,” where she dies, and she saw him cry in the booth, and she was crying, too. She points out that she’s learned from fans that they’re more often rooting for Chucky instead of his vicims because “They identify with his struggles” and love him.

Arthur answered the question, saying that he doesn’t worry about being killed off because he and Chucky are “buddies” who would “team up.”

Dourif was asked at what age he let Fiona watch his “Chucky” movie and whether he’s surprised that the franchise has lasted so long that she could play major parts in it.

Dourif first answered that no actor thinks that any movies or show will end up that successful. You just have to take it one at a time. It’s never a sure thing. He added that Fiona’s friends in school wanted him to talk like Chucky and do the laugh, so it was already a part of her life. She was very young when she came to the studio with him, when he had to do some additional dialogue. He was screaming and yelling while his character was being burned alive “in agony.” She got very upset and left, so they had to stop, so he could find her and reassure her that it was okay. He added, “So, she had her first kind of traumatic experience around me doing Chucky pretty young.” Tilly then make some jokes about his daughter being terrorized and having to go to therapy.

The last journalist asked Dourif to tell us the process in which he found the voice for Chucky. That’s a great question.

Dourif responded that he’s constantly having to adjust his Chucky voice because as you age, your voice changes. Mancini helps him and tells him what to adjust, such as getting higher in certain places. He added that Chucky originally was from Chicago, but now he sounds more like he’s from New Jersey. He will sometimes watch “Cult of Chucky” and mimic the voice he used there before they shoot again. Mancini said modestly that he doesn’t have to give Dourif any help.


In the new CHUCKY television series, an idyllic American town is thrown into chaos after a vintage ‘Good Guy’ doll turns up at a suburban yard sale. Soon, everyone must grapple with a series of horrifying murders that begin to expose the town’s deep hypocrisies and hidden secrets. Meanwhile, friends and foes from Chucky’s past creep back into his world and threaten to expose the truth behind his mysterious origins as a seemingly ordinary child who somehow became this notorious monster. CHUCKY is produced by UCP and executive produced by creator Don Mancini, David Kirschner, Nick Antosca and Alex Hedlund. Harley Peyton will also serve as executive producer. Mancini, who penned the film franchise, wrote the television adaptation, will direct the first episode and serves as showrunner.

CHUCKY is produced by UCP and executive produced by creator Don Mancini, David Kirschner, Nick Antosca and Alex Hedlund. Harley Peyton will also serve as executive producer. Mancini, who penned the film franchise, wrote the television adaptation, will direct the first episode and serves as showrunner.

"Death by Misadventure" Episode 101 -- Pictured: (l-r) Devon Sawa as Logan Wheeler, Zackary Arthur as Jake Wheeler -- (Photo by: Steve Wilkie/SYFY)Zackary Arthur

Jake Wheeler, “CHUCKY”

Zackary Arthur plays Jake Wheeler in the new SYFY/USA Network drama “Chucky.”

Arthur was brought up in Los Angeles amongst a creative family whom all share a passion for the arts. As a young child, Arthur fell in love with the cinema and at the age of 6 quickly found the avenue of acting that he wanted to pursue.

Arthur’s career jumpstarted when he got one of the young leads in the feature film “The Fifth Wave,” opposite Chloë Grace Moretz. His television debut was a recurring role on the Emmy Award-winning Amazon series “Transparent” for all five seasons.

Arthur has subsequently starred in 30 film and television projects, including starring roles opposite Jim Carrey in “Kidding,” Nicholas Cage and Selma Blair in “Mom and Dad,” Natasha Henstridge in “Hero Dog: The Journey Home.” His latest film, “Jill,” is expected to be released shortly.

Brad Dourif

Chucky (Voice), “Chucky”

Brad Dourif does voiceover for the role of Chucky in the new SYFY/USA Network drama “Chucky.”

Dourif, who has been the voice of “Chucky” throughout the film franchise’s long run, won a BAFTA Award and earned an Academy Award nomination for his supporting role in the Oscar-winning film “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest,” starring Jack Nicholson.

Dourif is also known for his role as Grima Wormtongue on the “Lord of the Rings” franchise. Other film credits include “Halloween,” “Jungle Fever,” “Color of Night,” “Murder in the First,” “Alien: Resurrection

On the TV front, Dourif received an Emmy Award nomination for his supporting role as Doc Cochran on the beloved HBO Western “Deadwood,” which ran for three seasons. Other TV credits include “Once Upon a Time,” “Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.,” “Criminal Minds,” “Psych,” “Law & Order: SVU” and many others.

Devon Sawa

Logan Wheeler / Lucas Wheeler, “Chucky”

Devon Sawa plays Logan and Lucas Wheeler in the new SYFY/USA Network series “Chucky.”

Born in Vancouver, Sawa is an industry veteran having got his start in such films as “Casper,” “Now and Then” and “Little Giants.” He’s co-starred in the horror franchise “Final Destination” as well as “Idle Hands,” “SLC Punk,” “Punk’s Dead” and “Hunter Hunter.”

On the TV side, Sawa has had roles on “Nikita,” alongside Maggie Q, as well as “McGyver,” “Hawaii 5-0” and, coming up, “Magnum PI.”

Sawa lives in Los Angeles, with his wife and two children. He is an avid athlete and trained MMA fighter.

Jennifer Tilly

Tiffany Valentine, “Chucky”

Jennifer Tilly is reprising the role of Tiffany Valentine in the new USA Network/SYFY drama “Chucky.” She has recurred in the Chucky franchise throughout the years, starring in the “Bride of Chucky,” “Seed of Chucky,” “Cult of Chucky,” and “Curse of Chucky.”

Tilly received an Academy Award nomination for her role in Woody Allen’s “Bullets Over Broadway” and earned an American Comedy Award nomination for “Liar Liar,” opposite Jim Carrey.

She has two films set for release: “High Holiday,” a stoner comedy co-starring Cloris Leachman and Tom Arnold, and “Sallywood,” a parable of Hollywood based on a true story. Also this year, Tilly will co-star in the Disney Plus series “Monsters at Work,” reprising her role of Celia, Billy Crystal’s long suffering girlfriend.

Tilly’s film credits include “Bound,” “The Getaway,” “The Fabulous Baker Boys,” “Dancing at the Blue Iguana,” “Bride of Chucky” and “The Doors.”

On the TV side, Tilly has appeared on “Modern Family,” “Hill Street Blues,” “It’s Garry Shandling’s Show,” “Moonlighting,” “Cheers,” “Frasier,” “Drop Dead Diva,” and “CSI.” For the last 11 years, she’s been doing voiceover work for Fox’s “Family Guy.”

Equally at home on stage, Tilly has many theater credits under her belt, including “Tartuffe,” (LA Public Theatre) “Boy’s Life” (LAAT), “Baby With the Bathwater,” (LAPT) and “Vanities,” (Dramalogue Best Actress Award). She received a TheatreWorld Award for Best Newcomer for her performance in Second Stage’s “One Shoe Off” at the Joseph Papp Theatre. On Broadway in 2001, she co-starred in “The Women” with Cynthia Nixon and Kristen Johnson, and then returned to Broadway to co-star in “Don’t Dress for Dinner” in 2012.

She appeared with Miranda Richardson in the critically acclaimed world premiere of Wallace Shawn’s play “Grasses of a Thousand Colors” at the Royal Court Theatre in London. She then reprised her role in the American premiere at the Joseph Papp Theater.

Tilly is a skilled poker player and won a gold bracelet at the World Series of Poker in 2005.

Don Mancini

Executive Producer, “Chucky”

Don Mancini serves at the showrunner and executive producer for the new SYFY/USA Network drama “Chucky.”

With the “Chucky” franchise, Mancini has created one of the most terrifying and iconic horror villains of all time. The redhaired, freckle-face doll possessed by the soul of a serial killer slashed his way into the pop culture zeitgeist in 1988 with the premiere of “Childs Play.” The franchise spawned six sequels, all of which Mancini wrote.

Mancini is not only a standout figure in horror, he is also one of the only franchise creators that has been attached to his creation for more than 30 years, and has no plans of slowing down.

Additionally, Mancini served as a writer and producer on “Hannibal” and “Channel Zero” as well as co-writer on “Tales From the Crypt.”

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  • ABC The Rookie: In the Line of Fire (10/10) Show More
    “In the Line of Fire” – Officer Nolan and officer Chen report to a structure fire and suspect that there is more to the situation than meets the eye. Meanwhile, after witnessing a sniper shooting, the team searches for the shooter and discovers that the perpetrator has a connection to one of their own, on an all-new episode of “The Rookie SUNDAY, OCT. 10 (10:00-11:00 p.m. EDT), on ABC. (TV-14, V) Episodes can also be viewed the next day on demand and on Hulu.
    Guest starring is Jenna Dewan as Bailey Nune, Dylan Conrique as Tamara Colins, Tru Valentino as Aaron Thorsen, Tricia Helfer as Claire Ivey and Aaron Leddick as Robinson.
    “In the Line of Fire” was written by Robert Bella and directed by Dan Willis. Promo
  • ABC The Good Doctor: Measure of Intelligence (10/11) Show More
    “Measure of Intelligence” – Shaun confronts Salen (Rachel Bay Jones) about the many changes she has implemented since coming on at St. Bonaventure, and Glassman is forced to accept his new role at the hospital on an all-new “The Good Doctor,” MONDAY, OCT. 11 (10:00-11:00 p.m. EDT), on ABC. Watch episodes on demand and on Hulu the day following their premieres.
    Guest starring is Rachel Bay Jones as Salen Morrison.
    “Measure of Intelligence” was written by Adam Scott Weissman and Thomas L. Moran, and directed by Anne Renton. Promo
  • ABC The Goldbergs: The William Penn Years (10/13) Show More
    “The William Penn Years” – Never a sports enthusiast, Adam finds himself in a pickle with his peers when he’s recruited to film his high school’s highly awaited last football game of the year and fails to capture his team’s winning touchdown. Meanwhile, Beverly discovers her neighbor Arnie Wolfy (Dan Lauria) is moving and she’s determined to buy his spacious home and move the family in. Murray’s long-standing and unresolved conflict with Arnie challenges Beverly’s plans, but the family comes to appreciate home is where the heart is on a new episode of “The Goldbergs,” airing WEDNESDAY, OCT. 13 (8:00-8:30 p.m. EDT), on ABC. 
  • ABC The Wonder Years: The Workplace (10/13) Show More
    “The Workplace” – It’s “Take Your Son to Work Day” and Dean heads to band practice with Bill. But the “grown folks’ business” at the music studio prompts Lillian to have to pick up Dean. While at her office, Dean finally learns what his mom does while he’s at school all day, gaining a newfound respect for her career and ambition, on “The Wonder Years,” airing WEDNESDAY, OCT. 13 (8:30-9:00 p.m. EDT), on ABC. Watch episodes on demand and on Hulu the day following their premieres.
    “The Workplace” is directed by Shiri Appleby and written by Meredith Dawson & Kendra Cole. Promo
  • ABC The Conners: The Wedding of Dan and Louise (10/13) Show More
    “The Wedding of Dan and Louise” – It’s Dan and Louise’s wedding day, but it’s a far-from-perfect walk down the aisle, especially when a weather report forecasts that a tornado is headed for Lanford creating chaos and surprises on “The Conners,” WEDNESDAY, OCT. 13 (9:00-9:31 p.m. EDT), on ABC. Watch episodes on demand and on Hulu the day following their premieres.
    Guest starring is Katey Sagal as Louise, Fred Savage as Dr. Harding and Nat Faxon as Neville. Promo
  • ABC Home Economics: Windmount Academy, $42,000/year (10/13) Show More
    “Windmount Academy, $42,000/year” – Marina worries Camila’s lost touch with her Mexican heritage, so she enlists Tom and the rest of the family to help reconnect with her roots. Prompted by Denise, Sarah interviews for a job at Gretchen’s school but receives some unwanted assistance from Connor on an all-new episode of “Home Economics,” WEDNESDAY, OCT. 13 (9:31-10:00 p.m. EDT), on ABC. Watch episodes on demand and on Hulu the day following their premieres.
    Recurring are Nora Dunn as Muriel and Phil Reeves as Marshall. Guest starring Danica McKellar as Alison, Ayla McDonald as Hayley, and Kim Yarbrough as Receptionist.
    “Windmount Academy, $42,000/year” was written by Jason Belleville and directed by Jude Weng. Promo
  • ABC A Million Little Things: pinocchio (10/13) Show More
    “pinocchio” – Gary’s past starts to affect his future with Darcy, while Eddie uncovers more from the night of his accident. Rome receives promising interest for his documentary, and Maggie gets a taste of workplace politics on this episode of “A Million Little Things,” airing WEDNESDAY, OCT. 13 (10:00-11:00 p.m. EDT), on ABC. Promo
  • ABC Station 19: Too Darn Hot (10/14) Show More
    “Too Darn Hot” – When a heat wave hits Seattle, Station 19 becomes a cooling center and chaos ensues with locals who aren’t used to the extreme temperatures. Andy deals with regret and finds a friend in Theo. Joey comes face-to-face with his past during a ride-along with Ben and Jack on a new episode of “Station 19,” THURSDAY, OCT. 14 (8:00-9:00 p.m. EDT), on ABC. Promo
    “Hotter Than Hell” – Seattle’s favorite redhead returns and graces the Grey Sloan halls with her experience and expertise as she attempts to help Richard teach the newest crop of residents. Meanwhile, Meredith has a decision to make, and Link confides in Teddy on an all-new episode of “Grey’s Anatomy,” THURSDAY, OCT. 14 (9:00-10:01 p.m. EDT), on ABC. Watch episodes on demand and on Hulu the day following their premieres.
    Guest starring is Jason George as Ben Warren and Kate Walsh as Dr. Addison Forbes Montgomery. Promo
  • ABC Big Sky: You Have to Play Along (10/14) Show More
    “You Have to Play Along” – After officially teaming up, Jenny and Cassie sit down with Tubb who reveals that this one goes far beyond their jurisdiction. Realizing Travis may be a man on the inside, Jenny reaches out for intel and learns the cartel is involved. With Tonya still missing and fearing the worst, Cassie and Jenny kick their search into high gear. Meanwhile, the kids’ plan continues to fall apart, with secrets and scheming threatening to land them in hot water, on an all-new episode of “Big Sky,” THURSDAY, OCT. 14 (10:01-11:00 p.m. EDT), on ABC. (TV-14, LV) Watch episodes on demand and on Hulu the day following their premieres.
    Guest starring is Ryan O’Nan as Donno, Vinny Chhibber as Jagat “Jag” Bhullar, Jamie-Lynn Sigler as Tonya, Patrick Gallagher as Sheriff Tubb, Madelyn Kientz as Max, Troy Johnson as Harper, Lola Reid as Madison, Jeremy Taylor as Bridger, Arturo Del Puerto as Tracy “T-Lock” Ridgeton, Romy Rosemont as Agatha and David Meunier as Deitrich.
    “You Have to Play Along” was written by Kyle Long and directed by Tasha Smith. Promo
  • Amazon I KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER – Friday, October 15 Show More
    Written and executive produced by Sara Goodman, I Know What You Did Last Summer is based on Lois Duncan’s 1973 novel, which was also the basis of the iconic 1997 film. One year after the fatal car accident that haunted their graduation night, a group of teenagers find themselves bound together by a dark secret and stalked by a brutal killer. As they try to piece together who’s after them, they reveal the dark side of their seemingly perfect town – and themselves. Everyone is hiding something, and uncovering the wrong secret could be deadly. Promo
  • AMC The Walking Dead – Sunday, October 10, 9:00PM Show More
    For Blood
    The Reapers defend Meridian from an incoming herd; Pope suspects Maggie is behind the attack, while Daryl treads carefully; Alexandrians scramble to protect themselves when a violent storm leaves them vulnerable to walkers. Promo
  • AMC The Walking Dead: World Beyond – Sunday, October 10, 10:03PM Show More
    While some attempt to cover their tracks, others acclimate to their new surroundings. Promo
  • Apple TV+ PUPPY PLACE – Friday, October 15 Show More
    Based on the best-selling books from Scholastic, “Puppy Place” chronicles the adventures of dog-loving siblings, Charles and Lizzie Peterson, and the puppy pals they foster in search of forever homes. Premiering on Apple TV+ Friday, October 15, each of the eight live-action episodes tells the story of a puppy who finds his or her way to the Peterson family. Charles (Riley Looc) and Lizzie (Brooklynn MacKinzie), whose different approaches complement, inspire and occasionally confound one another, do whatever it takes to find a happy, loving home for each and every dog. Discovering what makes each puppy special offers a unique perspective that helps the pair overcome their own individual hurdles. Produced by Iole Lucchese, Caitlin Friedman and Jef Kaminsky of Scholastic Entertainment, Andrew Green, Linda Mathious, Heather MacGillvray, Vincent Brown and Ari Posner. Promo
  • BET House of Payne – Tuesday, October 12, 8:00PM Show More
    Me Against the World
    With Mandy on her mind and John still missing, Miri prepares to take her driving test but is interrupted by a gruesome discovery. Oscar ropes Dom in on his environmental activism. Promo
  • BET Assisted Living – Tuesday, October 12, 8:30PM Show More
    Who Are You to Judge – After Jeremy buys a lemon from Mr. Brown, he takes legal action to recoup his loss. Promo
  • BET The Oval – Tuesday, October 12, 9:00PM Show More
    An Eye For An Eye
    The President and first lady barely dodge death but continue in their ways. Hunter vows for revenge, Victoria has lustful eyes on Sam, and Jason is ready to finish the job someone else started of taking his mother out. Promo
  • BET Sistas – Wednesday, October 13, 9:00PM Show More
    The Dollar Store – In the midseason premiere episode, “The Dollar Store” Robin has plans to travel back to London soon and wants to make his last few days memorable with Andi. Promo
  • BET Twenties – Wednesday, October 13, 10:00PM Show More
    One Night Only?
    From creator, writer, and executive producer Lena Waithe and Hillman Grad Productions, the GLAAD Media Award-nominated series, follows ‘Hattie,’ a masculine-presenting queer Black woman in her twenties, played by Jonica T. Gibbs (“Good Trouble”) and her two straight best friends, ‘Marie’ played by Christina Elmore (“Insecure”) and ‘Nia’ played by Gabrielle Graham (“Possessor”), as they try to find their footing in life, love, and the professional world in Los Angeles. BET will premiere a new half-hour series touching on key themes explored in “Twenties” titled “Twenties After-Show With B. Scott.” The after-show will provide candid commentary and insights into some of the characters’ mishaps and successes. B. Scott will be joined by the cast and an esteemed roster of guests including voices from the Black LGBTQ+ community that haven’t always been given a platform to share their personal experiences.  Promo
  • CBS THE EQUALIZER – Sunday, October 10 Show More
    “Aftermath” – Just as McCall considers ending her work as The Equalizer, she’s pulled back in when she takes on Detective Marcus Dante as a new client who needs her help to find an untraceable group of bank robbers, on the second season premiere of THE EQUALIZER, Sunday, Oct. 10 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    WRITTEN BY: Andrew W. Marlowe & Terri Edda Miller
    BASED ON: The original series by Richard Lindheim & Michael Sloan
    DIRECTED BY: Slick Naim Promo
    “Subject 17” – While Callen suspects Hetty of keeping secrets about his past and Joelle surfaces in her quest to capture Katya, NCIS must track down an informant whose life is in danger. Also, Kensi and Deeks work to expand their family, on the 13th season premiere of NCIS: LOS ANGELES, Sunday, Oct. 10 (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    WRITTEN BY: R. Scott Gemmill
    DIRECTED BY: Dennis Smith Promo
  • CBS SEAL TEAM – Sunday, October 10 Show More
    “Trust, But Verify: Part 1” – Everyone on Bravo is shocked when they learn a training exercise is really cover for a covert mission to get a weapons expert out of one of the most dangerous countries in the world, on the fifth season premiere of SEAL TEAM, Sunday, Oct. 10 (10:00-11:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    WRITTEN BY: Spencer Hudnut
    DIRECTED BY: Christopher Chulack Promo
  • CBS THE NEIGHBORHOOD – Monday, October 11 Show More
    “Welcome to the Porch Pirate” – When Dave and Gemma face a devastating loss, Calvin and Tina offer emotional support and reflect on a period that tested their own family, on the CBS Original series THE NEIGHBORHOOD, Monday, Oct. 11 (8:00-8:30 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    WRITTEN BY: Executive Producer Meg DeLoatch
    DIRECTED BY: Victor Gonzalez Promo
  • CBS BOB ♥ ABISHOLA – Monday, October 11 Show More
    “Old Strokey” – With Bob and Abishola settling into married life, Dottie feels pushed aside and decides to run away from home. Also, Goodwin and Kofo bring a domestic dispute to MaxDot, on the CBS Original series BOB ♥ ABISHOLA, Monday, Oct. 11 (8:30-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    STORY BY: Al Higgins, Gina Yashere and Gloria Bigelow
    TELEPLAY BY: Matt Ross, Dave Pilson and Jamarcus Turner
    DIRECTED BY: Beth McCarthy-Miller Promo
    “Great Wide Open” – Gibbs and McGee head to Alaska while the team works at home to uncover the conspiracy behind the serial killer, on the CBS Original series NCIS, Monday, Oct. 11 (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    WRITTEN BY: David North and Brenan Fehily
    DIRECTED BY: Terrence O’Hara Promo
    “Paniolo” – When a beloved Paniolo (Hawaiian cowboy)
    is shot while out riding his horse, Jane and her team must gain the trust of the Paniolo community to help find the culprits and protect the Paniolo’s life. Also, Kai tries to convince his stubborn father to see a doctor, on NCIS: HAWAI`I, Monday, Oct. 11 (10:00-11:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    WRITTEN BY: Noah Evslin
    DIRECTED BY: Larry Teng Promo
    “Know Thyself” – The team hunts for a serial killer who is targeting young, homeless men. Also, Tiffany and Scola don’t see eye to eye on how to handle the case or the difference between partners and co-workers, on the CBS Original series FBI, Tuesday, Oct. 12 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    TELEPLAY BY: Joe Halpin
    DIRECTED BY: Tim Busfield Promo
  • CBS FBI: INTERNATIONAL – Tuesday, October 12 Show More
    “American Optimism” – The team investigates an American citizen who is proclaiming his innocence after seeking sanctuary at Madrid’s U.S. embassy while still covered in the blood of his murdered Spanish boyfriend. Also, Vo and Raines continue to grow their friendship, on the CBS Original series FBI: INTERNATIONAL, Tuesday, Oct. 12 (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    WRITTEN BY: Matt Olmstead
    DIRECTED BY: Deborah Kampmeier Promo
  • CBS FBI: MOST WANTED – Tuesday, October 12 Show More
    “Inherited” – The team must determine if the kidnapping of a young Chinese-American woman is a random hate crime or if she was specifically targeted, in order to find her. Also, Jess and Sarah struggle with Tali’s continued rebellious streak, on the CBS Original series FBI: MOST WANTED, Tuesday, Oct. 12 (10:00-11:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    WRITTEN BY: Wendy West
    DIRECTED BY: Romeo Tirone Promo
    “Honeymoon in Vegas” – Gil Grissom and Sara Sidle come to the aid of a former colleague who is implicated in tampering with evidence. Maxine and the rest of the CSI team work the murder of a couple slain on their wedding day, following the evidence to the salacious underbelly of the Las Vegas elite, on CSI: VEGAS, Wednesday, Oct. 13 (10:00-11:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    WRITTEN BY: Jason Tracey
    DIRECTED BY: Nathan Hope Promo
  • CBS YOUNG SHELDON – Thursday, October 14 Show More
    “Snoopin’ Around and the Wonder Twins of Atheism”– Sheldon encourages Missy to question the Bible. Also, Meemaw is determined to catch George Sr. in a lie, and Mary helps Pastor Jeff (Matt Hobby) search for a youth pastor, on YOUNG SHELDON, Thursday, Oct. 14 (8:00-8:31 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    STORY BY: Steven Molaro & Jeremy Howe & Nadiya Chettiar
    TELEPLAY BY: Steve Holland & Connor Kilpatrick & Marie Cheng
    DIRECTED BY: Michael Judd Promo
  • CBS UNITED STATES OF AL – Thursday, October 14 Show More
    “Repo / Wapas Geri” – Al and Riley take on second jobs as “repo men” to make extra money to send to Al’s sister, but Riley’s behavior while working becomes concerning, on the CBS Original series UNITED STATES OF AL, Thursday, Oct. 14 (8:31-9:01 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    STORY BY: Anthony Del Broccolo, Andy Gordon
    TELEPLAY BY: Fahim Anwar, Bobby Telatovich
    DIRECTED BY: Mark Cendrowski Promo
  • CBS GHOSTS – Thursday, October 14 Show More
    “Viking Funeral” – When Thorfinn’s bones are discovered on the Woodstone property, he asks Sam to conduct the traditional Viking funeral he’s always wanted. However, Sam and Jay are torn when they learn that the bones could be sold to a museum for a lot of much-needed cash. Also, the ghosts conduct an election for a “ghost representative” to bring issues to Sam, on GHOSTS, Thursday, Oct. 14 (9:01-9:30 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    WRITTEN BY: Josh Malmuth
    DIRECTED BY: Trent O’Donnell Promo
  • CBS B POSITIVE – Thursday, October 14 Show More
    “Love, Taxes and a Kidney” – As Gina and Drew adjust to life after surgery, Drew develops romantic feelings for someone new, and Gina gets surprising news about a friend’s death, on the second season premiere of the CBS Original series B POSITIVE, Thursday, Oct. 14 (9:30-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    WRITTEN BY: Chuck Lorre, Jim Patterson and Warren Bell
    DIRECTED BY: James Widdoes Promo
    Episode Directed by Michael Weatherly
    “Espionage” – TAC’s defense strategy for a client on trial for going public with classified governments under the Espionage Act is compromised when Bull experiences emotional turmoil following his daughter’s kidnapping. As Bull grows increasingly agitated, the team faces a difficult time in court when federal law leaves them unable to tell jurors their client’s motive for leaking the sensitive information, on the CBS Original series BULL, Thursday, Oct. 14 (10:00-11:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    WRITTEN BY: Tom Szentgyorgyi
    DIRECTED BY: Michael Weatherly Promo
  • CBS S.W.A.T. – Friday, October 15 Show More
    David DeSantos Debuts in a Recurring Role as New Team Leader Rodrigo Sanchez
    “27 David” – When a robbery crew holds up the iconic downtown Los Angeles library, the team discovers that stolen architectural drawings could lead to a major threat against the city. Also, the squad is surprised by the arrival of a new leader, longtime LAPD veteran and former S.W.A.T. member Rodrigo Sanchez (David DeSantos), on the CBS Original series S.W.A.T., Friday, Oct. 15 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    WRITTEN BY: Nathan Jackson
    DIRECTED BY: Alex Graves Promo
  • CBS MAGNUM P.I. – Friday, October 15 Show More
    Kate Flannery Guest Stars and Bobby Lee Returns as Jin
    “Texas Wedge” – Magnum, Higgins and Rick go undercover at a ritzy country club when a young caddie is fired after being accused of stealing a member’s golf clubs. Also, Jin’s (Bobby Lee) niece (Kaylee Hottle), unaware of her uncle’s shady past, asks him to speak at her school, on MAGNUM P.I., Friday, Oct. 15 (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+. Kate Flannery guest stars as a country club member with eyes for Rick.
    WRITTEN BY: Gene Hong
    DIRECTED BY: Antonio Negret Promo
  • CBS BLUE BLOODS – Friday, October 15 Show More
    Treat Williams Guest Stars as Lenny Ross, Frank’s Friend
    “Protective Instincts” – Frank must decide between remaining police commissioner and pursuing a new professional chapter when his old friend Lenny Ross (Treat Williams) presents him with an exciting job offer. Also, Sean puts Jamie and Eddie in a tough position when he tries his hand at the family business behind his father Danny’s back, and Danny and Baez investigate the murder of a restaurant delivery man, on the CBS Original series BLUE BLOODS, Friday, Oct. 15 (10:00-11:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
    WRITTEN BY: Kevin Riley & Yasmine Cadet
    DIRECTED BY: Jackeline Tejada Promo
  • Comedy Central Awkwafina is Nora From Queens – Wednesday, October 13, 10:00PM Show More
    Nora embraces her new life in New Mexico, but a distressing letter from home makes her reevaluate the future, and Grandma deals with loneliness during coronavirus lockdowns. Promo
  • The CW Roswell, New Mexico – Monday, October 11 Show More
    SEASON FINALE – “Never Let You Go” – (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET) (TV-14, LV) (HDTV)
    SEASON FINALE – The ultimate showdown with Jones (Nathan Dean) is finally here and Liz (Jeanine Mason) must trust herself if she is going to the save the man she loves. The episode was directed by Lance Anderson and written by Christopher Hollier (#313). Original airdate 10/11/2021. Promo
  • The CW DC’s Stargirl – Tuesday, October 12 Show More
    “Summer School: Chapter Ten” – (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV-PG, V) (HDTV)
    CHOSEN FAMILY – Courtney (Brec Bassinger) is left devastated after discovering a dark secret that Pat (Luke Wilson) has kept hidden from her. However, when they learn that Jennie (guest star Ysa Penarejo) may be able to help in their plan to stop Eclipso (Nick Tarabay), they’re forced to put their issues aside as they set out on a road trip to find her. Meanwhile, Beth (Anjelika Washington) makes a shocking discovery about The Shade (guest star Jonathan Cake). Amy Smart, Trae Romano and Cameron Gellman also star. Sheelin Choksey directed the episode written by Taylor Steitz (#210). Original airdate 10/12/2021. Every episode of DC’S STARGIRL will be available to stream on The CW App and the day after broadcast for free and without a subscription, log-in or authentication required. Promo
    “Hope for Tomorrow” – (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET) (TV- PG, V) (HDTV)
    NYXLY KIDNAPS WILLIAM – Supergirl (Melissa Benoist) continues to fight Nyxly (Peta Sergeant) for the remaining totems but after Nyxly kidnaps William (Staz Nair), Supergirl realizes she needs to take a more proactive stance to keep National City safe. Meanwhile, Alex (Chyler Leigh) faces the biggest challenge of her life. The episode was directed by Tawnia McKiernan with story by Robert Rovner and teleplay by Emilio Ortega Aldrich & Nicki Holcomb (#615). Original airdate 10/12/2021. Promo
    SEASON PREMIERE – “The Bullet Blondes” – (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV-PG, LV) (HDTV)
    COMFORT ZONE – After defeating the aliens and saving Earth, the Legends find themselves stranded in 1925 Odessa, Texas with a destroyed Waverider. Wanting to help fix things, Astra (Olivia Swann) tries using her powers, which creates unwanted attention from the town and that of the new Director of the Bureau of Investigation, J. Edgar Hoover, and a surprise no one expected. Realizing they need to escape, Sara (Caity Lotz) and Ava (Jes Macallan) create a distraction by going on a crime spree with Hoover hot on their tails. Meanwhile, Zari (Tala Ashe) is finding it hard to get over Constantine, so Behrad (Shayan Sobhian) suggests the only thing he knows that can help. Nick Zano, Adam Tsekham, Lisseth Chavez and Amy Pemberton also star. Kevin Mock directed the episode written by James Eagan & Ray Utarnachitt (#701). Original airdate 10/13/2021. Promo
  • The CW Batwoman – Wednesday, October 13 Show More
    SEASON PREMIERE – “Mad As A Hatter” – (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET) (TV-14, LV) (HDTV)
    SEASON PREMIERE – As Batwoman (Javicia Leslie) continues to keep the streets of Gotham safe, Batwing (Camrus Johnson) joins in on the action, but Luke quickly realizes he hasn’t quite mastered his suit. Meanwhile, as Alice (Rachel Skarsten) sits hopelessly imprisoned in Arkham, Sophie (Meagan Tandy) fully enjoys her freedom. When Ryan pays Alice a visit to ask about the bombshell she dropped – that Ryan’s birth mother is still alive – Ryan must decide if she should go down the rabbit hole of her past. As Mary (Nicole Kang) prepares to finally graduate from medical school, she feels the absence of her family more than ever. But when an Alice admirer stumbles upon one of the missing Bat Trophies, Gotham and the Bat Team get mixed up in the madness, culminating in a shockingly gruesome graduation… and an equally shocking new partnership. Also starring Robin Givens and Victoria Cartagena. Holly Dale directed the episode written by Caroline Dries (#301). Original airdate 10/13/2021. Every episode of BATWOMAN will be available to stream on The CW App and the day after broadcast for free and without a subscription, log-in or authentication required. Promo
  • The CW Coroner – Thursday, October 14 Show More
    “Christmas Eve” – (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV-14, V) (HDTV)
    AN UNEXPECTED GUEST – In the first of a two-part season finale, the holidays are interrupted by a gruesome murder, and Jenny (Serinda Swan) thinks there is more going on with the suspect than the obvious. Also starring Roger Cross, Gordon Campbell, Ehren Kassam, Kiley May, Andy McQueen, and Uni Park. Adrienne Mitchell directed the episode written by Noelle Carbone (#309). Original airdate 10/14/21. Every episode of CORONER will be available to stream on The CW App and the day after broadcast for free and without a subscription, log-in or authentication required. 
    SEASON PREMIERE – “You Have to Pick One This Time” – (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET) (TV-PG, DL) (HDTV)
    SEASON PREMIERE – After learning that Malivore has taken over Landon’s (Aria Shahghasemi) body, Hope (Danielle Rose Russell) and the Super Squad come up with a risky plan to rescue Landon, as well as Cleo (guest star Omono Okojie), who has been absorbed into Malivore’s darkness. Meanwhile, an impromptu date with Finch (guest star Courtney Bandeko) brings up a subject that Josie (Kaylee Bryant) is not ready to talk about. Matthew Davis, Jenny Boyd, Quincy Fouse, Chris Lee, Ben Levin and Leo Howard also star. The episode was written by Mark Ryan Walberg and directed by Tony Solomons (#317). Original airdate 10/14/2021. Promo
  • The CW Nancy Drew – Friday, October 15 Show More
    “The Journey of the Dangerous Mind” – (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET) (TV-PG, V) (HDTV)
    FROZEN IN TIME – As The Drew Crew investigates the Frozen Heart murders, sparks fly between Nancy (Kennedy McMann) and her counterpart in law enforcement on Nancy’s first day as the Community Liaison – and Temperance (guest star Bo Martynowska) makes a startling offer at the police station. Meanwhile, Carson (Scott Wolf) and Ryan (Riley Smith) have conflicting opinions on how Nancy should be parented, a mishap tests Nick’s (Tunji Kasim) and George’s (Leah Lewis) relationship, and Bess (Maddison Jaizani) tries to protect Ace (Alex Saxon) from a string of bad luck that may not be coincidental. Amanda Row directed the episode written by Celine Geiger and Andrea Thornton Bolden (#302). Original airdate 10/15/2021. Every episode of NANCY DREW will be available to stream on The CW App and the day after broadcast for free and without a subscription, log-in or authentication required. Promo
  • Disney Sydney To The Max – Friday, October 15, 8:00PM Show More
    “Jingled Out” (8:00-8:30 p.m. EDT)
    When Max hires Sydney to write a jingle for Reynolds Rides, she learns it’s not easy to be both a daughter and an employee. TV-G Promo
  • Disney Gabby Duran & The Unsittables – Friday, October 15, 8:30PM Show More
    “Zeke to the Future” (8:30-8:55 p.m. EDT)
    Gabby gets a history lesson when alien technology delivers a boy from 1821 to modern-day Havensburg. Gabby recruits her alien friend Rooney to help get him home.
    TV-G Promo
  • Disney ZOMBIES: Addison’s Monster Mystery – Friday, October 15, 9:25PM Show More
    “Vampire… Again” (8:55-9:00 p.m. EDT)
    Addison is hosting the Seabrook High’s Halloween Fall Ball and is going above and beyond to ensure the event is extra spooky and fun. After she gives the school’s “Shrimpy” mascot costume a makeover using some stones from the Wolf Den, a mysterious power brings the costume to life, like a pink, googly-eyed Frankenstein’s monster. As Monster Shrimpy begins terrorizing Seabrook and smashing everything in his path, Zed will need to work together with Addison to save the Fall Ball … and Seabrook itself. TV-G Promo
  • Disney+ JUST BEYOND – Wednesday, October 13 Show More
    All eight episodes of the supernatural anthology series “Just Beyond” will premiere on Wednesday, October 13 as a part of the Disney+ Hallowstream celebration. Inspired by the writings of R.L. Stine, the series tells astonishing and thought-provoking stories of a reality just beyond the one we know. Each episode introduces viewers to a new cast of characters who must go on a surprising journey of self-discovery in a supernatural world of witches, aliens, ghosts and parallel universes. Promo
  • Epix Chapelwaite – Sunday, October 10, 10:00PM Show More
    The Gathering Dark
    Charles and company try to enlist men in town to fight in Jerusalem’s Lot and retake the book. Promo
  • FOX THE SIMPSONS – Sunday, October 10 Show More
    “THE SIMPSONS” – (8:00-8:31 PM ET/PT) CC-HDTV 720p-Dolby Digital 5.1 Video Clips
    Tree Rollins Makes a Guest Voice Appearance
    The First of Four All-New Halloween-Themed Episodes Airing Tonight on FOX!
    Bong Joon-ho’s “Parasite,” Bambi’s revenge and much, much more are featured in the all-new “Treehouse of Horror XXXII” episode of THE SIMPSONS airing Sunday, Oct. 10 (8:00-8:31 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (SI-3216) (TV-TBD)
    Guest Cast: Tree Rollins as Himself
  • FOX THE GREAT NORTH – Sunday, October 10 Show More
    “THE GREAT NORTH” – (8:31-9:01 PM ET/PT) CC-HDTV 720p-Dolby Digital 5.1 Video Clips
    The Second of Four All-New Halloween-Themed Episodes Airing Tonight on FOX!
    Moon, Judy and Ham try to survive Alaska’s darkest and spookiest day of the year. Meanwhile, Wolf and Honeybee attempt to replace Beef’s favorite shirt in the all-new “The Yawn of the Dead Adventure [Halloween]” Halloween-themed episode of THE GREAT NORTH airing Sunday, Oct. 10 at 8:31-9:00 PM ET/PT on FOX. (GRN-111) (TV-14 D, L, V)
    Guest Cast: Tim Bagley, John Early, John Gemberling, Patti Harrison, David Herman, Charlie Kelly, Martha Kelly, Karen Kilgariff, Paul F. Tompkins, Julio Torres, Ariel Tweto
  • FOX BOB’S BURGERS – Sunday, October 10 Show More
    “BOB’S BURGERS” – (9:01-9:31 PM ET/PT) CC-AD-HDTV 720p-Dolby Digital 5.1 Video Clips
    Joe Lo Truglio Guest-Voices
    The All-New Halloween-Themed Episodes Continue on FOX!
    When a mysterious note is sent to Linda on Halloween, she and Gayle must travel to their hometown to face a wrong they committed 27 years ago in the all-new “The Pumpkinening” Halloween-themed episode of BOB’S BURGERS airing Sunday, Oct. 10 (9:00-9:30 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (BOB-1102) (TV-PG L)
    Guest Voice Cast: Megan Mullally as Gayle; David Herman as Grim Reaper Kid/Mr. Rosenthal; Kate Micucci as Kid/Kid #3; Joel Kim Booster as Kid #2/Kid #4/Life Coach Dane; Will Choi as Kid’s Dad/Monster Kid; Joe Lo Truglio as Marty; Tim Meadows as Mike the Mailman; Sarah Baker as Terry
    “FAMILY GUY” – (9:30-10:00 PM ET/PT) CC-AD-HDTV 720p-Dolby Digital 5.1 Video Clips
    PA: Viewer discretion is advised.
    The Fourth and Final All-New Halloween-Themed Episode Airing Tonight on FOX!
    Quagmire meets an avid dog lover, and pretends Brian is his dog in an attempt to win her over. Meanwhile, Chris helps Stewie track down the culprit who stole his Halloween candy in the “Must Love Dogs” Halloween-themed episode of FAMILY GUY airing Sunday, Oct. 10 (9:30-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (FG-1818) (TV-14 D, L, S, V)
    “9-1-1” – (8:00-9:01 PM ET/PT) CC-HDTV 720p-Dolby Digital 5.1 Video Clips
    The members of the 118 arrive on the scene after a truck crashes into a high school homecoming parade. Meanwhile, Athena and Michael try to help Harry in the aftermath of his kidnapping, May is intimidated by returning call center legend and Bobby gives a devastated Chimney advice regarding Maddie in the “Home And Away” episode of 9-1-1 airing Monday, Oct. 11 (8:00-9:01 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (NIN-503) (TV-14 D, L, S, V)
    Guest Cast: Vanessa E. Williams as Claudette Collins; Anirudh Pisharody as Ravi
  • FOX THE BIG LEAP – Monday, October 11 Show More
    “THE BIG LEAP” – (9:01-10:00 PM ET/PT) CC-HDTV 720p-Dolby Digital 5.1 Video Clips
    With the release of the first trailer for the show and a promo shoot in the works, the contestants all air their grievances over what was caught on tape. Wayne has a run-in with someone from his past who wants to use him to gain access to the show, and Nick is distracted by his visiting daughter. Meanwhile, Mike enlists Paula’s help to make his ex-wife jealous and Gabby tries a dating app in the all-new “Nothing But Money Shots” episode of THE BIG LEAP airing Monday, Oct. 11 (9:01-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (BLP-104)
    Guest Cast: Nora Dunn as Gina; Adam Kaplan as Simon; Tim Lyons as Alan; McKenzie Chinn as Jessica; Karen Rodriguez as Raven; Crew Miskel as Sam; Nadirah Bost as Mrs. Deyoung; Jessica Hodges as Paige; Patrick Mulvey as Patrick; Blaire Brown as Henrietta; Jason Michael Snow as Neil; Jurgan Hooper as Photographer; Luis Rosado as Mario; Elijah Delgado as Junior; Jake Lockett as Aaron O’Reilly; Jordan Edgington as British Bartender; Phil Ridarelli as Guy; Josh Nash as Male Club Dancer #1; Richard Torres as Male Club Dancer #2; Brian Manuel Torres as Male Club Dancer #3; Joe Bushnell as Doctor; Deveon Bromby as Receptionist; Shadee Vossoughi as Nurse #1
  • FOX THE RESIDENT – Tuesday, October 12 Show More
    “THE RESIDENT” – (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) — CC-AD-HDTV 720p-Dolby Digital 5.1 Video Clips
    In trying to find a way to channel his emotions, Conrad puts all his effort in looking for answers. Raptor has a run-in with the police that ends up taking a surprising turn. Meanwhile, Leela begins noticing problems with a surgeon who has been Bell’s mentor in the all-new “Now What?” episode of THE RESIDENT airing Tuesday, Oct. 12 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (RES-504) (TV-14 D,L,S,V)
    Guest Cast: Glenn Morshower as Marshall Winthrop; Denitra Isler as Nurse Hundley; Jessica Miesel as Nurse Jessica Moore; Miles Fowler as Trevor; Marlene Forte as Cherry Sandoval; Juan Carlos Cantu as Gabe Sandoval; Gregg Henry as Dr. Aaron Kranepool; Jason Douglas as Officer Winnaker; Adam Poole as Officer Wright; Nasir Rahim as Officer Carr; Sarah Girma as Anesthesiologist #1; Sunshine Bartell as Nurse Sunshine; Kristina Arjona as Anesthesiologist #2
  • FOX OUR KIND OF PEOPLE – Tuesday, October 12 Show More
    “OUR KIND OF PEOPLE” – (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) CC-HDTV 720p-Dolby Digital 5.1 Video Clips
    Alex Newell (“Zoey’s Extraordinary Playlist”) Guest-Stars
    Angela meets with Nikki’s father, Nate, as she deals with the tabloids chasing her after her paternity secret is revealed. Meanwhile, Angela’s best friend, Tommy “Tizzie” Jones, arrives in Oak Bluffs to help her with the grand opening of the Eve’s Crown flagship store. Then, Teddy confides in Leah, Nikki and Taylor get closer and Raymond meets with a face from the past to help get his company back from Teddy in the all-new “Crabs in a Gold Plated Barrel” episode of OUR KIND OF PEOPLE airing Tuesday, Oct. 12 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (OKP-104) (TV-14 D, L, V)
    Guest Cast: Alex Newell as Tommy “Tizzie” Jones; Melissa De Sousa as Alex; McKinley Freeman as Nate; Nicole Chanel Williams as Taylor
  • FX IMPEACHMENT: AMERICAN CRIME STORY – Tuesday, October 12, 10:00PM Show More
    Man Handled
    The Office of the Independent Counsel ensnares Monica Lewinsky, holding her for 12 traumatizing hours in a hotel room. Written by Sarah Burgess; directed by Ryan Murphy. Promo
  • FX AMERICAN HORROR STORY: DOUBLE FEATURE – Wednesday, October 13, 10:00PM Show More
    Blue Moon
    An unexpected visitor arrives at the White House and reveals the details of the horrific plan. Written by Kristen Reidel & Manny Coto & Reilly Smith; directed by Laura Belsey John J. Gray. Promo
  • FX WHAT WE DO IN THE SHADOWS – Thursday, October 14, 10:00PM Show More
    The Wellness Center
    Nandor is persuaded to reject vampirism and pursue a healthier lifestyle. Written by Stefani Robinson; Directed by Yana Gorskaya. Promo
  • FXX CAKE – Thursday, October 14, 10:00PM Show More
    God Mode
    The powers that be. Promo
  • Hallmark Chesapeake Shores – Sunday, October 10, 8:00PM Show More
    What A Difference A Day Makes
    Evan wonders if he has feelings for Abby. Luke is threatened with returning to London. Promo
  • Hallmark Movie Channel ADVICE TO LOVE BY – Saturday, October 16, 8:00PM Show More
    When a “love advice” author (Westbrook) crosses paths with a dating columnist (Darnell), an attraction begins to blossom into more. As both use strategies from their own playbooks to win over the other, is it possible that they’ve both met their match? Promo
  • HBO SCENES FROM A MARRIAGE – Sunday, October 10, 9:00PM Show More
    “In the Middle of the Night, in a Dark House, Somewhere in the World” – Mira and Jonathan reassess their love story. Promo
  • HBO Max AQUAMAN: KING OF ATLANTIS – Thursday, October 14 Show More
    WarnerMedia Kids & Family and DC released today the first promo for the highly anticipated animated mini-series event, Aquaman: King of Atlantis. The new animated series from Warner Bros. Animation presents a playful reimagining of the iconic DC Super Hero and tells an original tale about Aquaman’s first adventures as King of Atlantis. Family audiences will follow Aquaman, his royal advisor Vulko, warrior-princess Mera and a fun roster of characters on epic underwater excursions filled with colorful animations, monstrous creatures and thrilling battles. The action-packed mini-series will release new episodes weekly on HBO Max beginning Thursday, Oct. 14. The three-part event begins on Aquaman’s first day on the job as King of Atlantis and he’s got a LOT of catching up to do. Luckily, he has his two royal advisors to back him up – Vulko, the scholar, and Mera, the water controlling warrior-princess. Between dealing with unscrupulous surface dwellers, elder evils from beyond time and his own half-brother who wants to overthrow him, Aquaman is going to have to rise to the challenge and prove to his subjects, and to himself, that he’s the right man for the throne! The talented voice cast includes Cooper Andrews (The Walking Dead) as Aquaman, Gillian Jacobs (Community) as Mera, Thomas Lennon (Reno 911) as Vulko and Dana Snyder (Jellystone!) as Ocean Master. Promo
  • Hulu DOPESICK – Wednesday, October 13 Show More
    From executive producer Danny Strong and starring and executive produced by Michael Keaton, “Dopesick” examines how one company triggered the worst drug epidemic in American history. The series takes viewers to the epicenter of America’s struggle with opioid addiction, from the boardrooms of Big Pharma to a distressed Virginia mining community to the hallways of the DEA. Defying all the odds, heroes will emerge in an intense and thrilling ride to take down the craven corporate forces behind this national crisis and their allies. The limited series is inspired by the New York Times bestselling book by Beth Macy. The eight-episode series stars Michael Keaton, Peter Sarsgaard, Michael Stuhlbarg, Will Poulter, John Hoogenakker, with Kaitlyn Dever and Rosario Dawson. Guest stars include Phillipa Soo and Jake McDorman. Promo
  • Lifetime LIST OF A LIFETIME – Sunday, October 10, 8:00PM Show More
    List of a Lifetime follows Brenda Lee (Kelly Hu) who is diagnosed with breast cancer, is prompted to look for the daughter she gave up for adoption decades ago. After finding Talia (Sylvia Kwan) and sharing her devasting news, Talia convinces Brenda to make a bucket list of everything she wants to do, promising to help her complete everything on the list. While keeping Brenda a secret from her adoptive parents Diana (Shannen Doherty) and Marty (Jamie Kahler, How I Met Your Mother), Talia grows closer to the mother she never knew. Meanwhile, Brenda discovers a meaningful relationship with Talia she didn’t know she needed, and a reason to fight for her life. Patricia Velasquez stars as Brenda’s best friend, Meg while Jane Sibbett stars as Brenda’s oncologist, Dr. Elizabeth Boyer. Jim Klock (Underground Railroad) also appears in the film as Brenda’s supervisor, Kevin and Chad Lindberg (The Fast and the Furious) plays Brenda’s boyfriend, Mike. See Our Interview with the cast! Promo
  • Lifetime DON’T SWEAT THE SMALL STUFF: THE KRISTINE CARLSON STORY – Saturday, October 16 Show More
    Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff is about Kristine Carlson (Heather Locklear) and her husband Dr. Richard Carlson (Jason MacDonald) had an amazing life with their two daughters. But when Richard tragically passes away, Kristine is knocked off balance. Comfortable with living in Richard’s shadow, she is now forced to navigate the unchartered territory of becoming a single mom while dealing with pressure to become the new face and voice of the Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff brand. Looking deep inside herself, Kristine comes to understand the true essence of emotional authenticity and not sweating the small stuff, which leads to the resilience and confidence needed to carry on the legacy of the beloved brand. Promo
  • Lifetime FIGHTING FOR HER LIFE – Saturday, October 16 Show More
    Inspired by a true story, Devina has always wanted to be a mother and after years of trying and many miscarriages, Devina and her husband, Rick, have all but given up–until Devina discovers she’s pregnant again with a healthy baby girl. Adding to her stress is Devina’s mother, Ani, who is against her being with Rick, let alone having his child. When Devina collapses midway through her pregnancy, she is taken to the hospital and discovers she has a life-threatening blood disorder. Now, with every day possibly being her last, Devina is determined to see the pregnancy to term and deliver her miracle baby. Will Devina’s baby girl survive and have a mommy waiting for her when she arrives? Starring Aisha Kumari, Adam Huss, Alice Amter Promo
  • LMN HER BOYFRIEND’S DEADLY SECRET – Friday, October 15, 8:00PM Show More
    When a high school student starts dating a rebellious boy from a different school, she quickly finds herself in the crosshairs of someone trying to break them up…or hide a dangerous secret. Stars Alicia Leigh Willis, Kalen Bull. (2021). Promo
    10/11/2021 (10:01PM – 11:00PM) (Monday) : Each Joe must come to terms with an unfamiliar and challenging feeling. Music Joe enlists help to look for his son. Cop Joe navigates the aftermath of a shooting. Nurse Joe and Jenny discuss a big career opportunity. TV-14 Promo
    10/12/2021 (09:00PM – 10:01PM) (Tuesday) : With the survivors’ food supply dwindling, Eve and Ty venture into the forest on a risky hunting expedition only to face unexpected dangers that threaten their survival. As an unlikely rescue mission comes to fruition, Gavin must put his faith – and the fate of his family – in the hands of an old friend with whom he shares a complicated past. TV-14 Promo
    10/12/2021 (10:01PM – 11:00PM) (Tuesday) : Max struggles with a new fiscal reality at the hospital. Dr. Sharpe is on a mission to provide follow-up cancer screenings for patients before it’s too late. Bloom grapples with Dr. Shinwari’s new overnight schedule. Reynolds has an interesting conversation with Dr. Malvo about their future. TV-14 Promo
    10/13/2021 (08:00PM – 09:00PM) (Wednesday) : Charles helps Dylan with a longtime patient who was recently diagnosed with schizophrenia. Stevie, Maggie and Vanessa investigate the legitimacy of a patient’s cancer diagnosis. Crockett is caught off-guard. Will pitches a new medical technology. TV-14 Promo
    10/13/2021 (09:00PM – 10:00PM) (Wednesday) : Kidd spreads her wings as a lieutenant. Chief Hawkins rides with Ambulance 61 to learn more about Brett. Casey takes a trip out of town. A Ritter date night turns into an emergency situation. TV-14 Promo
    10/13/2021 (10:00PM – 11:00PM) (Wednesday) : When Upton and Ruzek answer an emergency call to an abandoned house, their investigation leads them down a dark path. TV-14 Promo
    10/14/2021 (09:00PM – 10:00PM) (Thursday) : TV-14 – The SVU faces the fury of social media fans when they arrest two popular influencer brothers. Promo
    10/14/2021 (10:00PM – 11:00PM) (Thursday) : TV-14
    Stabler discovers Flutura’s true role in the family business. Bell asks a favor from Kilbride to move her case forward. Bernadette and Eli adjust to their new living situation. Promo
    10/16/21 (Sa.)(11:29 PM) on NBC. Rami Malek / Young Thug Promo
  • Netflix THE KING’S AFFECTION – Monday, October 11 Show More
    When the crown prince is killed, his twin sister assumes the throne while trying to keep her identity and affection for her first love a royal secret. Promo
  • Netflix MY NAME – Friday, October 15 Show More
    Following her father’s murder, a revenge-driven woman puts her trust in a powerful crime boss — and enters the police force under his direction. Promo
  • Netflix KARMA’S WORLD – Friday, October 15 Show More
    Lyrically gifted middle schooler Karma juggles rap dreams and rhyme schemes while using her talent, ambition and heart to solve any problem. Promo
  • Netflix MISFIT: THE SERIES – Saturday, October 16 Show More
    The Misfits are in for a wild year as they prepare a school musical. But when the strict new headmaster bans the show, it’s up to Julia to save the day. Promo
  • Nickelodeon SIDE HUSTLE – Saturday, October 16, 8:00PM Show More
    The Way You Luke Tonight – TBA
  • Own QUEEN SUGAR – Tuesday, October 12, 8:00PM Show More
    Or Maybe Just Stay There
    Charley is caught between love and ambition, the police take their intimidation of Nova to an unexpected level, and Violet and Billie address their tumultuous past. Finally, Ralph Angel and Darla arrive at the police station, hand in hand. Promo
  • Paramount+ GUILTY PARTY – Thursday, October 14 Show More
    From creator Rebecca Addelman (“Dead to Me”) and starring Kate Beckinsale (“Jolt”) and newcomer Jules Latimer, the 10-episode first season will premiere with two episodes on Thursday, Oct. 14 exclusively on Paramount+. GUILTY PARTY follows Beth Burgess (Beckinsale), a discredited journalist desperate to salvage her career by latching on to the story of a young mother, Toni Plimpton (Latimer), who has been sentenced to life in prison for maiming and murdering her husband, crimes she claims she didn’t commit. In trying to uncover the truth, Beth finds herself in over her head as she contends with Colorado gun-smugglers, clickbait culture, the doldrums of marriage and her own tarnished past. Promo
  • PBS Call The Midwife – Sunday, October 10 Show More
    Episode 2 (Season 10)
    A pregnant woman confides in Sister Frances. Trixie is troubled by her admittance to Lady Emily. Promo
  • PBS Grantchester – Sunday, October 10 Show More
    Episode 7
    Geordie and Will negotiate a complicated family dispute that might be connected to a murder. Promo
  • Showtime AMERICAN RUST – Sunday, October 10, 10:00 PM Show More
    Award winners Jeff Daniels and Maura Tierney star in an unflinching new Showtime Original Series. In an economically devastated Pennsylvania steel town, a complicated and compromised chief of police is forced to decide how far he’s willing to go when the son of the woman he loves is accused of murder. A harrowing journey into the lives of a small town with big secrets, where people are driven by loyalty, love and desperation – and bad choices come far too easy. Promo
  • Showtime WORK IN PROGRESS – Sunday, October 10, 11:00PM Show More
    I Release You
    Abby and Julia venture into uncharted waters, the family throws a party, and Abby finds herself ending one relationship just as she begins a new one. The fate of her last almond hangs in the balance, so Abby has a nice long talk with herself before making any decisions. There’s definitely no going back now. Season finale. Promo
  • Showtime THE L WORD: GENERATION Q – Monday, October 11, 9:00PM Show More
    Last Call
    Bette is forced to make a huge decision as Tina and Carrie’s wedding quickly approaches; Shane and Tess reach a Promo
  • Showtime BACK TO LIFE – Monday, October 11, 10:00PM Show More
    Episode 5
    With Mandy on her mind and John still missing, Miri prepares to take her driving test but is interrupted by a gruesome discovery. Oscar ropes Dom in on his environmental activism. Promo
  • Starz BMF – Sunday, October 10, 8:00PM Show More
    Love All, Trust Few
    Meech and Terry set up an undercover operation using a food truck to sell drugs to factory workers, while Detective Lopez investigates a murder at the center of the city’s drug war. Promo
  • Starz HEELS – Sunday, October 10, 9:00PM Show More
    Double Turn
    The culmination of all Jack’s efforts finally pays off as the DWL is featured on the biggest stage in its history, but when outside-thering drama enters the squared circle, there’s a lot more on the line than the championship belt. Promo
  • Syfy/USA Network CHUCKY – Tuesday, October 12, 10:00PM Show More
    After a vintage Chucky doll turns up at a suburban yard sale, an idyllic American town is thrown into chaos as a series of horrifying murders begin to expose the town’s hypocrisies and secrets. Meanwhile, the arrival of enemies – and allies – from Chucky’s past threatens to expose the truth behind the killings, as well as the demon doll’s untold origins, as a seemingly ordinary child who somehow became this notorious monster. Promo
  • Syfy/USA Network DAY OF THE DEAD – Tuesday, October 12, 11:00PM Show More
    Special Preview
    “Day of the Dead” is the intense story of six strangers trying to survive the first 24 hours of an undead invasion. This ode to George A. Romero’s famous flesh-eaters reminds us that sometimes all it takes to bring people together is a horde of hungry zombies trying to rip them apart. Promo
  • Syfy DAY OF THE DEAD – Friday, October 15, 10:00PM Show More
    The Thing in the Hole
    A normal day for the town of Mawinhaken takes a horrifying turn when the dead begin to rise. Cam and Lauren make a shocking discovery at the cemetery. Meanwhile, McDermott investigates a mystery under the Cleargenix fracking operation. Promo
  • Syfy SLUMBER PARTY MASSACRE – Saturday, October 16, 10:00PM Show More
    A new contemporary twist-filled reimagining of the 1982 slasher cult classic just in time for Halloween. A slumber party turns into a bloodbath, as a psychotic serial killer wielding a power drill disrupts the fun. Promo
  • UpTV LOVE AT SKY GARDENS – Sunday, October 10, 7:00PM Show More
    Deirdre’s life is split between her day job as a barista and her passion for designing rooftop gardens. When Deirdre accidentally spills coffee on regular customer and event planner, Marcus, before a big meeting with his boss, it sets the wrong tone for him to discuss a job promotion. Deirdre offers to help Marcus get back on track by lending her rooftop garden design services for his boss’ next big event – a wedding! His boss agrees to Deirdre’s help but also wants Jacob, Marcus’ competition for the promotion, to co-plan the wedding. As they work around the clock together, Marcus and Deirdre notice something more about each other and love takes root. But a series of misunderstandings threaten to wilt their growing love. It will take a small miracle to bring them back together where love blossoms – Sky Gardens. Promo
  • USA Network THE SINNER – Wednesday, October 13, 10:00PM Show More
    Part I
    Still reeling from the trauma of a previous case a year ago, the now-retired Harry Ambrose (Bill Pullman) travels to Hanover Island in northern Maine for a recuperative getaway with his partner, Sonya (Jessica Hecht). When an unexpected tragedy occurs involving the daughter of a prominent island family, Ambrose is recruited to help the investigation, only to be thrown into a mystery of mounting paranoia that will turn this sleepy tourist island, and Ambrose’s life, upside down. Promo



  • ABC America’s Funniest Home Videos: 3202 (10/10) Show More
    “3202” – TBA. Airs SUNDAY, OCT. 10 (7:00-8:00 p.m. EDT), on ABC. (TV-PG)  Preview
  • ABC Celebrity Wheel of Fortune: Donny Osmond, Jeff Garlin and Amber Riley (10/10) Show More
    “Donny Osmond, Jeff Garlin and Amber Riley” – Hosted by pop-culture legends Pat Sajak and Vanna White, “Celebrity Wheel of Fortune” takes a star-studded spin on America’s Game®. Season two continues with an all-new episode SUNDAY, OCT. 10 (8:00-9:00 p.m. EDT), on ABC. “Celebrity Wheel of Fortune” welcomes celebrity contestants to spin the world’s most famous Wheel and solve puzzles for a chance to win $1 million. All of the money won by the celebrity contestants will go to a charity of their choice.
    This episode’s celebrity contestants include Donny Osmond (playing for Caesars Cares), Jeff Garlin (playing for F Cancer) and Amber Riley (playing for A Place Called Home).
    “Celebrity Wheel of Fortune” is produced by Sony Pictures Television, a Sony Pictures Entertainment Company. “Wheel of Fortune” is distributed by CBS Media Ventures.
  • ABC Supermarket Sweep: We’ve Got Golden Cans! (10/10) Show More
    “We’ve Got Golden Cans!” – Three-time Emmy® nominee and comedienne Leslie Jones is back with a stockpile of groceries and more good times when an all-new episode of “Supermarket Sweep” airs SUNDAY, OCT. 10 (9:00-10:00 p.m. EDT), on ABC. (TV-PG, L)
  • ABC Dancing with the Stars: Disney Heroes Night (10/11) Disney Villains Night (10/12) Show More
    I Just Can’t Wait for It To Be Disney Week!
    ‘Be Prepared’ As the 13 Remaining Couples Return for Two Nights As ‘Heroes’ and ‘Villains’
    “Disney Heroes Night” and “Disney Villains Night” – The magic of Disney Week will transform the ballroom as the remaining 13 celebrity and pro-dancer couples take on iconic Disney characters across two nights with “Disney Heroes Night” airing live on MONDAY, OCT. 11 (8:00-10:00 p.m. EDT), and “Disney Villains Night” airing live on TUESDAY, OCT. 12 (8:00-10:01 p.m. EDT), on ABC. (TV-PG, L) Celebrity and pro duos will perform time-honored dances including the Salsa, Samba, Rumba, Paso Doble, Foxtrot and more. Watch episodes on demand and on Hulu the day following their premieres.
    In addition on Monday’s “Disney Heroes Night,” each couple will participate in the “Mickey Dance Challenge” where they will be tasked with incorporating steps from Mickey Mouse into their routine. At the end of the episode, the judges will award two bonus points to the couple who best incorporates Mickey’s iconic moves.
  • ABC Special: A Night in the Academy Museum (10/12) Show More
    Laura Dern and Tom Hanks To Host Star-Studded Special, ‘A Night in the Academy Museum,’ Tuesday, Oct. 12, on ABC
    Annette Bening, Cher, Jon M. Chu, Geena Davis, Danny Glover, Eiza González, Emily V. Gordon, Aldis Hodge, Marsai Martin, Marlee Matlin, Melissa McCarthy, Kumail Nanjiani, Michelle Rodriguez, Jurnee Smollett and Diane Warren Set To Appear in Special Celebrating Launch of Academy Museum of Motion Pictures
    Oscar®-winning actors Laura Dern and Tom Hanks are inviting a few of their friends and colleagues to spend a night in the new Academy Museum of Motion Pictures when “A Night in the Academy Museum” airs TUESDAY, OCT. 12 (10:01-11:00 p.m. EDT), on ABC.
    The special will give fans an exclusive look at the amazing history, exhibitions and insight into the art of filmmaking that awaits when they visit the largest institution in the United States dedicated to the arts, sciences and artists of moviemaking. Annette Bening, Cher, Jon M. Chu, Geena Davis, Danny Glover, Eiza González, Emily V. Gordon, Aldis Hodge, Marsai Martin, Marlee Matlin, Melissa McCarthy, Kumail Nanjiani, Michelle Rodriguez, Jurnee Smollett and Diane Warren will guide viewers through the halls of the institution as they explore the magic and artistry that has enlightened, enchanted and entertained movie fans for more than 120 years.
    “A Night in the Academy Museum” is produced by Herzog & Company in association with Show Shop and directed by Linda Mendoza. Mark Herzog and Frank Garritano serve as executive producers.
    “1302” – Peter Jones, global business tycoon and original Dragon from BBC’s “Dragon’s Den” (the U.K. version of “Shark Tank”), brings his expertise from across the pond into the Tank in an all-new episode. First into the Tank are entrepreneurs from Chattanooga, Tennessee, who think their gift of music is sure to make their dreams come true when they introduce their one-of-a-kind custom song service to the Sharks. Entrepreneurs from Sacramento, California, pitch their helpful work-from-home product that increases productivity, boosts confidence and decreases interruptions. A proper sibling duo from Austin, Texas, present their convenient and healthy meal service that does not require refrigeration, mailed directly to your door while siblings from Seabrook, New Hampshire, hope to hook the Sharks with their apparel company focused on helping clean the world’s oceans on  “Shark Tank,” airing FRIDAY, OCT. 15 (8:00-9:01 p.m. EDT), on ABC. (TV-PG, L)
  • ABC 20/20: The Principal’s Wife (10/15) Show More
    “20/20” airing Friday, Oct. 15, from 9:01-11:00 p.m. EDT on ABC. High school principal convicted of killing teacher wife. Amy Robach exclusively reports.  More
  • ABC Saturday Night College Football: TBA (10/16) Show More
    SATURDAY NIGHT COLLEGE FOOTBALL PRESENTED BY CAPITAL ONE: Airing Saturday, October 16, 2021. 7:30-11:00 p.m. – TBA
  • Bravo The Real Housewives of Potomac – Sunday, October 10, 8:00PM Show More
    Tossing Salads and Spilling Tea (Bags) Preview
    On a couples trip to the Eastern Shore, Candiace and Mia’s argument puts a damper on Wendy’s Good Vibes Only. Wendy’s hosting skills are under pressure when two surprise guests are left without adequate accommodations. Karen has an interesting run-in with Mia’s husband, Gordon. And at dinner, Ashley and Candiace unbury their hatchets once again.
  • Bravo The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City – Sunday, October 10, 9:00PM Show More
    Gin and Bear It Preview
    After the catering fiasco, Whitney and Lisa find a way to put aside their differences. Meanwhile, Jen apologizes to Brooks, Heather celebrates Ashley’s college acceptance, and the guys enjoy a night away from their wives.
    DEEPFAKES – Bill Whitaker reports on the use of artificial intelligence to create deepfakes, a rapidly improving technology some experts say in the years to come will give anyone the ability to create special effects like a Hollywood studio. Graham Messick and Jack Weingart are the producers. Preview
    A THOUSAND CHILDREN – At least a thousand children taken from parents at the U.S. border three years ago remain separated, despite the seven-month effort by the U.S. government to reunify them. Sharyn Alfonsi reports. Guy Campanile is the producer. Preview
    DEEP SPRINGS – Around two dozen of the world’s brightest attend Deep Springs College, miles from the nearest town in the California desert, where students shoulder the responsibilities and challenges of life on a working ranch in addition to a full roster of academic work. Jon Wertheim reports. David M. Levine is the producer. Preview
  • CBS SURVIVOR 41 – Wednesday, October 13 Show More
    “They Hate Me ‘Cause They Ain’t Me” – Two castaways strategize a risky move during the immunity challenge, and another castaway does what it takes to earn a tribemate’s trust, on SURVIVOR, Wednesday, Oct. 13 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+.
  • CBS TOUGH AS NAILS – Wednesday, October 13 Show More
    “Fight Tooth and Nail” – Crew members punch in for their first individual challenge, repairing snow fences on Mt. Baldy, the highest peak in Los Angeles, on TOUGH AS NAILS, Wednesday, Oct. 13 (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network, and available to stream live and on demand on Paramount+. Phil Keoghan is the creator, host and executive producer/showrunner.
  • CBS 48 HOURS – Saturday, October 16 Show More
    10/16/21 (Sa.) (10:00 PM) on the CBS Television Network – TBA
  • The CW Legends Of The Hidden Temple – Sunday, October 10 Show More
    SERIES PREMIERE – “Hero Twins” – (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (Content Ratings TBD) (HDTV)
    CRISTELA ALONZO HOSTS THE NEW SERIES FROM THE CW – Hosted by Cristela Alonzo, the 2021 adult version of “Legends of the Hidden Temple” is taken out of a studio and into a “jungle,” and scaled up with tougher challenges and a much bigger prize on the line – $25,000. It preserves the original Nickelodeon series’ favorite elements including: “Olmec” (the giant talking stone head) voiced by Dee Bradley Baker, the original voice and puppeteer, the “Moat Crossing,” “The Steps of Knowledge,” “The Temple Games,” the “Temple Run,” and of course, the iconic team names: “Purple Parrots,” “Blue Barracudas,” “Orange Iguanas,” “Red Jaguars,” “Silver Snakes” and “Green Monkeys” (#101). Original airdate 10/10/2021. Every episode of LEGENDS OF THE HIDDEN TEMPLE will be available to stream on and The CW App the day after broadcast for free and without a subscription, log-in or authentication required.
  • The CW Killer Camp – Sunday, October 10 Show More
    SEASON PREMIERE – “A Smashing Sequel” – (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET) (Content Ratings TBD) (HDTV)
    FRESH BLOOD – In this reality show with a brutal horror twist, thirteen new campers arrive at Camp Pleasant excited and ready for fun but are quickly reminded by host Camp Counselor Bobby (Bobby Mair) that not everyone will survive. After all, one of them is a Killer who will engage the help of homicidal Handyman Bruce to kill their “friends” … one by one. The campmates are immediately thrown into several challenges – including a hilarious walk across a slippery pole to bank cash for their prize fund and a duel with bloody arrows to win immunity. All the while, the Killer among them tries to sabotage the game. Bromances blossom, a risky love triangle forms and one Camper is ultimately sent into the woods to die in a deliciously fun way. Directed by Mike Parker (#201). Original airdate 10/10/2021. Every episode of KILLER CAMP will be available to stream on and The CW App the day after broadcast for free and without a subscription, log-in or authentication required.
  • The CW Penn & Teller: Fool Us – Friday, October 15 Show More
    “Happy Birthday!” – (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (Content Rating TBD) (HDTV)
    GUEST APPEARANCE BY JUDY GOLD – Aspiring magicians are invited to perform their best trick to try and fool the world-famous team of Penn & Teller, who will get to see the trick only once and have to immediately try to work it out. Anyone who succeeds wins the right to perform with Penn & Teller in their celebrated show at the Rio Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas. The TV audience watches along with Penn & Teller as they try to figure out the secrets. The magicians featured in the episode include Amanda Nepo, Shoot Ogawa, Ale Belotto & Guilia and Mark Clearview with special guest appearance by Judy Gold. Alyson Hannigan (“How I Met Your Mother”) serves as host (#801). Original airdate 10/15/2021.
  • FOX THE MASKED SINGER – Wednesday, October 13 Show More
    “THE MASKED SINGER” – (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) CC-AD-HDTV 720p-Dolby Digital 5.1 Video Clips
    The characters from “Group B” return for their second performances of the season, and a new wildcard enters the game. The Season Six contestants boast a combined 85 Grammy Nominations and 27 wins, three Academy Award nominations, 12 Emmy Nominations, 12 Razzie Award Nominations, two Super Bowl appearances and two Lifetime Achievement Awards. Play along with America’ favorite guessing game with host Nick Cannon and celebrity panelists Ken Jeong, Jenny McCarthy Wahlberg, Nicole Scherzinger and Robin Thicke. Find out who will be unmasked in the all-new “Date Night” episode of THE MASKED SINGER airing Wednesday, Oct. 13 (8:00-9:01 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (MS-605) (TV-PG L)
  • FOX ALTER EGO – Wednesday, October 13 Show More
    “ALTER EGO” – (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) CC-AD-HDTV 720p-Dolby Digital 5.1 Video Clips
    In the show’s fifth episode, four of the remaining 16 contestants go head-to-head and face elimination in ALTER EGO, the world’s first avatar singing competition series and the next iteration of the musical competition show. On ALTER EGO, singers from across the country become the stars they’ve always wanted to be. However, these contestants won’t perform as themselves. Rather, they’ll be given the chance to show how they’ve always wanted to be seen, creating their dream avatar ALTER EGO to reinvent themselves, while showcasing their unique performance style via motion capture technology. Check out the all-new “The Head To Heads Begin” episode of ALTER EGO airing Wednesday, Oct. 13 (9:01-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (ALT-105) (TV-PG D,L)
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Philadelphia Eagles
    FOX Sports continues its coverage of THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL PRESENTED BY BUD LIGHT PLATINUM live from Lincoln Financial Field as the Philadelphia Eagles take on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL PRESENTED BY BUD LIGHT PLATINUM airs LIVE Thursday, Oct. 14 (7:30 PM-CC ET live/4:30 PM-CC PT live) on FOX. (TNF-402) (n/a).
  • FOX WWE’S FRIDAY NIGHT SMACKDOWN – Friday, October 15 Show More
    “WWE’S FRIDAY NIGHT SMACKDOWN” – (8:00-10:00 PM ET live/PT tape-delayed) CC-HDTV 720p-Dolby Digital 5.1
    A unique combination of edge-of-your-seat action, unpredictable drama and world-class athleticism, FOX Sports presents WWE’S FRIDAY NIGHT SMACKDOWN airing Friday, Oct. 15 (8:00-10:00 PM ET live/PT tape-delayed) on FOX. (WWE-2342) (TV-PG D,L,S,V)
  • FOX COLLEGE FOOTBALL – Saturday, October 16 Show More
    **FOX SPORTS** – FOX COLLEGE FOOTBALL – (8:00 PM-CC ET live/5:00 PM-CC PT live) CC- HDTV 720p-Dolby Digital 5.1
    FOX Sports continues its 2021 college football coverage. FOX College Football airs LIVE Saturday, Oct. 16 (8:00 PM-CC ET live/5:00 PM-CC PT live) on FOX. (FSP-2225) (n/a)
  • HBO WE’RE HERE – Monday, October 11, 9:00PM Show More
    “Spartanburg, South Carolina”
    A year after their first visit was cut short due to the pandemic, Shangela, Bob, and Eureka return to Spartanburg, SC to catch up with Noah, who grapples with gender expression; plus-size lesbian model Faith; and Olin, who wants to bring his family together by walking in his brother’s shoes – literally.
    10/10/2021 (07:00PM – 08:20PM) (Sunday) : TV-14
    Week 5 highlights and discussion, plus a Bills-Chiefs preview. Mike Tirico and Maria Taylor host, with Tony Dungy, Chris Simms, Drew Brees, insider Mike Florio, Rodney Harrison and Jac Collinsworth.
    10/10/2021 (08:20PM – 11:30PM) (Sunday) : Buffalo Bills At Kansas City Chiefs
    Buffalo Bills (3-1) at Kansas City Chiefs (2-2). From GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium.
    10/11/2021 (08:00PM – 10:01PM) (Monday) : The battle rounds begin as the coaches enlist music industry powerhouses Jason Aldean, Kristin Chenoweth, Dierks Bentley and Camila Cabello to prepare their artists to go head-to-head in hopes of advancing to the knockouts. Each coach has one steal and one save at their disposal. TV-PG
    10/12/2021 (08:00PM – 09:00PM) (Tuesday) : The battle rounds continue as the coaches enlist music industry powerhouses Jason Aldean, Kristin Chenoweth, Dierks Bentley and Camila Cabello to prepare their artists to go head-to-head in hopes of advancing to the knockouts. Each coach has one steal and one save at their disposal. TV-PG
    10/15/2021 (08:00PM – 09:00PM) (Friday) : TV-PG – Black lesbian mothers reflect on the importance of teaching their heritage to their three young children after experiencing the deep-rooted culture of their switch family, an Orthodox Greek family of six. As everyone learns about their differences, both families revel in the commonalities they ultimately share with one another.
    On Discovering Carlson’s Mummified Body, Sheriff Dan Warwick tells NBC News’ Keith Morrison: ‘I Used To Say I’ve Seen It All. I Don’t Say That Anymore.’
    All-New Two-Hour ‘The Ascension of Mother God’ Airs Friday at 9pm ET/8pm CT
    On Friday’s all-new Dateline NBC at 9pm ET/8pm CT, family members and investigators speak out for the first time on network television since the death of “Love Has Won” spiritual leader Amy Carlson, known to her followers as “Mother God.” The case gained worldwide attention after deputies found her mummified body covered with Christmas lights in a Colorado house where members of the group stayed.
    Saguache County Sheriff Dan Warwick tells Dateline’s Keith Morrison that when he arrived at the house, the group’s followers were worshipping Carlson’s corpse and putting essential oils on it to “keep the odor down.” He tells Morrison, “Wow, I mean, it’s just [you] shake and go wow. There’s not much more I can say. I’ve been doing this for 26 years. I used to say I’ve seen it all. I don’t say that anymore.”
    During the two-hour broadcast, The Ascension of Mother God, Morrison also speaks with Carlson’s mother, sisters and children, District Attorney Alonzo Payne and former followers of Mother God.
    Dateline NBC is the longest-running series in NBC primetime history and is now in its 30th season. Dateline is anchored by Lester Holt and features correspondents Andrea Canning, Josh Mankiewicz, Keith Morrison and Dennis Murphy.
  • USA Network WWE RAW – Monday, October 11, 8:00PM Show More
    10/11/21 – From WWE RAW Preview For Tonight: First Round Tournament Matches, Tag Team Main Event
    Tonight’s WWE RAW will take place from the Chase Center in San Francisco, California with the first red brand matches for the 2021 King of the Ring Tournament and the inaugural Queen’s Crown Tournament.
    Tonight’s tournament matches include Kofi Kingston vs. Jinder Mahal, Ricochet vs. Xavier Woods, Doudrop vs. Natalya, and Shayna Baszler vs. Dana Brooke.
    RAW will also be headlined by SmackDown Women’s Champion Becky Lynch and RAW Women’s Champion Charlotte Flair teaming up to face Sasha Banks and Bianca Belair.
    Stay tuned for more on tonight’s RAW and be sure to join us for live coverage at 8pm ET. WWE has announced the following line-up for tonight:
    * King of the Ring Tournament First Round Match: Kofi Kingston vs. Jinder Mahal
    * King of the Ring Tournament First Round Match: Xavier Woods vs. Ricochet
    * Queen’s Crown Tournament First Round Match: Doudrop vs. Natalya
    * Queen’s Crown Tournament First Round Match: Shayna Baszler vs. Dana Brooke
    * WWE Champion Big E and Drew McIntyre face-off in the ring to build to Crown Jewel
    * SmackDown Women’s Champion Becky Lynch and RAW Women’s Champion Charlotte Flair vs. Sasha Banks and Bianca Belair
  • USA Network WWE NXT – Tuesday, October 12, 8:00PM Show More
    10/12/21 – from The Diamond Mine’s Ivy Nile is set to make her WWE NXT 2.0 in-ring debut during tonight’s show.
    There’s no word yet on who Nile will face, but Malcolm Bivens took to Twitter this afternoon to announce the debut.
    “Diamond Mine’s tenderoni, Ivy Nile, is making her in-ring debut tonight! Sorry, ladies… she’s gonna be a PROBLEM,” Bivens wrote.
    Nile, also know as former Titan Games winner Emily Andzulis, has competed in just two TV matches since signing with WWE in January 2020. She worked RAW Underground on August 3, 2020, losing to Shayna Baszler, then then participated in a NXT Women’s Battle Royal won by Candice LeRae on September 23, 2020. Before that she worked three NXT live events.
    Stay tuned for more on tonight’s NXT episode and be sure to join us for live coverage at 8pm ET. Below is the updated line-up for tonight, along with Bivens’ tweet:
    * Ivy Nile will make her in-ring debut
    * NXT North American Champion Isaiah “Swerve” Scott defends against Santos Escobar
    * NXT Champion Tommaso Ciampa vs. Joe Gacy in a non-title match. If Gacy wins, he will be added to Bron Breakker vs. Ciampa for the NXT Title at Halloween Havoc
    * Von Wagner and Kyle O’Reilly vs. Ridge Holland and Pete Dunne
    * The second edition of “Lashing Out with Lash Legend”
    * More build for Halloween Havoc
  • USA Network CHRISLEY KNOWS BEST – Thursday, October 14, 8:00PM Show More
    A Brand New Todd
    Todd struggles as the brand ambassador for a new mocktail line; Grayson gets busted playing hooky.
  • USA Network AMERICA’S BIG DEAL – Thursday, October 14, 9:00PM Show More
    “America’s Big Deal” from world-renowned inventor and entrepreneur Joy Mangano. With a mission to lift up America’s greatest small businesses and inventors, this groundbreaking first-of-its-kind series invites entrepreneurs from across the country to sell their products live on-air to home viewers through One Platform Commerce @ NBCU. Each week entrepreneurs will take the stage for a three-minute product pitch and the person with the most live sales throughout the episode will win the chance to strike a life-changing deal with one of the show’s retail giants. Premiering Thursday, Oct. 14 at 9 p.m. ET/PT on USA Network, “America’s Big Deal” will be hosted by Emmy Award-nominated “Access Hollywood” journalist Scott Evans and will empower audiences to shop live using ShoppableTV and NBCUniversal Checkout to turn entrepreneurs’ dreams into reality.



    Paula Newsome, William Petersen, Jorja Fox, Matt Lauria, Mandeep Dhillon and Mel Rodriguez Star
    Paul Guilfoyle Guest Stars at Jim Brass
    “Legacy” – CSI: VEGAS opens a brand-new chapter in Las Vegas – the city where it all began. Facing an existential threat that could bring down the entire Crime Lab and release thousands of convicted killers back onto the neon-lit streets of Vegas, a brilliant new team of investigators led by Maxine Roby must enlist the help of old friends Gil Grissom and Sara Sidle. This combined force will deploy the latest forensic techniques to do what they do best – follow the evidence – in order to preserve and serve justice in Sin City. In the premiere episode, an attack on Jim Brass (Paul Guilfoyle) kicks off a twisted conspiracy targeting the Las Vegas crime lab, on the rebroadcast of CSI: VEGAS, Saturday, Oct. 16 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
    WRITTEN BY: Jason Tracey
    DIRECTED BY: Uta Briesewitz Promo
  • CBS S.W.A.T. – Saturday, October 16 Show More
    “Sins of the Fathers” – The team works together to hunt down a deadly band of mercenaries hired by a wealthy CEO trying to leave the country before he’s arrested for running a massive Ponzi scheme. Also, Hondo is forced to confront his changing relationship with Darryl (Deshae Frost) as the teen grows closer to his father, and a grief-stricken Chris hits rock bottom, on a rebroadcast of S.W.A.T., Saturday, October 16 (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
    WRITTEN BY: Munis Rashid and Alison Cross
    DIRECTED BY: Guy Ferland Promo
  • FOX GAME OF TALENTS – Saturday, October 16 Show More
    “GAME OF TALENTS” – (11:30 PM-12:30 AM ET/PT) CC-HDTV 720p-Dolby Digital 5.1
    Taking the awe, wonder and spectacle of a large-scale variety show and infusing it with a clue-centered, high-intensity investigative game, GAME OF TALENTS is a new hybrid series like you’ve never seen. Two new teams of contestants are put to the test as they attempt to figure out the surprising, mesmerizing – and sometimes bizarre – hidden talents of the mystery performers. Find out which team is up for the challenge, as they try and guess their way to $200,000 in the “Balloons, Bo Staffs, and a Blazing Chainsaw” episode of GAME OF TALENTS airing Saturday, Oct. 16 (11:30PM-12:30AM ET/PT) on FOX. (GTA-107) (TV-PG D)
    10/14/2021 (08:00PM – 09:00PM) (Thursday) : The SVU must contend with an angry neighborhood watch group when a girl goes missing near a building housing several sex offenders. Guest starring Ari’el Stachel, Mark Cayne and Michael Dempsey. TV-14 Promo
    10/16/2021 (08:00PM – 09:00PM) (Saturday) : With the survivors’ food supply dwindling, Eve and Ty venture into the forest on a risky hunting expedition only to face unexpected dangers that threaten their survival. As an unlikely rescue mission comes to fruition, Gavin must put his faith – and the fate of his family – in the hands of an old friend with whom he shares a complicated past. TV-14 D, L, V Promo
    10/16/2021 (09:00PM – 10:00PM) (Saturday) : TBA
    10/16/21 (Sa.) (10:00 PM) – “Daniel Craig / The Weeknd”



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Interview with Kelly Hu, Roxy Shih, Shannen Doherty and Sylvia Kwan of “List of a Lifetime” on Lifetime by Suzanne 9/14/21

This is such a good movie. It’s a bit sad but very enjoyable. The characters are great. I love Kelly Hu, anyway (from shows like “Arrow” and “Warehouse 13”), and she’s really sympathetic as the sad woman, Brenda Lee, who finds out she has cancer. It’s a heartwarming tale, and you won’t be disappointed.  Sylvia Kwan is great as her daughter, Talia. Brenda finds Talia, whom she gave up when she was a baby.  Shannen Doherty plays the woman who raised Talia. The story is all about how Talia gives Brenda reasons to fight her cancer by creating a bucket list.

The women were really fun on the panel. I hope you enjoy it!

TANYA LOPEZ:  Hi, everyone.  I’m Tanya Lopez, EVP of scripted content for Lifetime, and thank you all for joining us today.  As you saw, we have a lot happening this fall, as the leading producer of original movies it’s exciting for all of us to be able to continue to create these films despite the pandemic and, no, it’s not easy, but the team really makes it look that way.  I’m so proud of the incredible talent that we have here today; that we brought together to tell these stories both in front and behind the camera.  We have Shannen Doherty starring not in one but two Lifetime movies in the month of October.  The remake of “Dying to Belong” with Favour Onwuka and Jenika Rose, executive produced by Danielle von Zerneck, and “List of a Lifetime” from director Roxy Shih in which Shannen stars alongside Kelly Hu and Sylvia Kwan; but that’s not all.  Our beloved and talented Shannen also directed the special content that follows the film as part of our Stop Breast Cancer for Life campaign.  It’s amazing and, Shannen, I know you’re out there.  You’re going to be directing more for us.  Let’s start with off with “List of a Lifetime.”

MODERATOR:  Hello, everybody, and welcome.  Our first panel for today is “List of a Lifetime.”  Please welcome stars Kelly Hu, Shannen Doherty, Sylvia Kwan and director Roxy Shih.  Thank you so much for joining us, ladies.  Our first question today is going to be from Jamie Ruby.

QUESTION:  Hi, guys.  Thanks for talking to us today.  What I wanted to know, and this is kind of, I guess, the obvious question, but what’s on your bucket list for all of you?

KELLY HU:  Oh.  Mine is literally pages and pages long.  I’ve been acquiring a bucket list for over thirty years now, so it would take up days to tell you about it.

SYLVIA KWAN:  I definitely have a lot on my bucket list, too.  I think Kelly and I are very similar in that way.  I definitely want to backpack the Chilkoot Mountains.  Mount Whitney is on my bucket list.   I was supposed to do it last year, but didn’t get to do it.  Sky diving, I want to go sky diving.  I want to make a movie.  Oh, I just did.


ROXY SHIH:  Yes.  Get it, girl.


ROXY SHIH:  I wanted to go to Iceland with my best friend for our ten year friendivarsary, but then COVID hit, and then that didn’t happen.  I really want to see the aurora borealis.  I like anything that just sort of helps us appreciate nature and all the amazing gifts that she allows us to see in certain moments at the time and to take care of our environment.  So that’s probably my biggest one yet.

SHANNEN DOHERTY:  I have no bucket list.  I think, for me, I just think a bucket list is odd in my particular situation, because it means that I’m sort of trying to check things off before my time runs out.  So I’ m very much like there’s no bucket list because I’m going to be the longest living person with cancer.  And so I guess it would just be, if I had to say one, it would just be living.  Like that’s the only thing that’s on my list at this point.

QUESTION:  Thank you so much.

MODERATOR:  Thank you.  Our next question is going to be from Suzanne from TVMEG.COM.

QUESTION:  Hi, great to see you all today.  Kelly, I’ve seen you in a lot of shows where you’re a very strong, literally, a kick-ass woman, and you’re very passive in this show, at least for — in this movie for a long time.  Was that difficult for you?  Or how did you go about processing that?

KELLY HU:  I think it really was.  It was definitely a different kind of character for me.  I never get to play these kind of characters.  I think everybody always sees me as, you know the martial arts girl kicking butt, but kicking cancer’s ass, I think, is the hardest role that I’ve had to take on so far.  I mean, this was really — It was a role that I had the most difficulty preparing for, and it had the biggest payoff at the end.  It was absolutely amazing and so thankful to be able to do something like this.

QUESTION:  All right.  Thank you.

MODERATOR:  Thank you.  Our next question is from Jamie Steinberg.

KELLY HU:  Is the mute button on maybe?

QUESTION:  Oh, excuse me about that.

KELLY HU:  No worries.

QUESTION:  Such a pleasure to speak with all of you.  Shannen, this was such a labor of love and a personal story, actually, probably close to your heart since you did have breast cancer.  Were there any emotional moment for you while you were advising the stars, or maybe when you were behind the camera?

SHANNEN DOHERTY:  Well, first, Roxy was our wonderful, amazing director and leader for “List of a Lifetime,” and I didn’t have to give anybody advice because between Roxy and these beautiful ladies who did such an amazing job with their own preparation process.  They knew their characters.  They knew the story.  They did cancer proud, because they did all their due diligence.  I had the easiest job.  I got to show up for four days and be a part of their world.  So I really I did nothing.  They did everything.

KELLY HU:  No.  Shannen, you showed up.  Oh, my God.  You were amazing.

SHANNEN DOHERTY:  So, I mean — thank you, and we all showed up.  And, honestly, it’s, for me, this was truly like an unbelievable pleasure to be a part of, and I was blown away every second that I got to work with these amazing ladies.

ROXY SHIH:  Thank you, Shannen.  Love you.


KELLY HU:  Yes, we love you.

SHANNEN DOHERTY:  Somebody else has got to talk.  I’m like ohhh.

MODERATOR:  Okay.  We’re going to move on to our next question from Jay Bobbin.

QUESTION:  Hello.  My question is for Shannen, too.  Shannen, that weekend, this kind of bundles “Dying to Belong” in also, that is quite a weekend for you in many ways, and it kind of represents everything Lifetime is: serious, socially-minded dramas, also the content you directed to go along with that, plus also what we more technically call a Lifetime movie with “Dying to Belong,” that type of film. Can you talk a little bit about running the gamut of what Lifetime is in a single weekend among all these projects?

SHANNEN DOHERTY:  I mean, I think what’s amazing about Lifetime is that they really support women, and they do support social issues from this movie about breast cancer to my other movie that’s really about bullying and like what society, the pressure that society can put on young people today, and I think working with a company like Lifetime and a studio like Lifetime is that you feel very supportive and very, very, very nurtured and, more importantly, you feel heard, and I think women all around the world who tune in also feel heard.  It’s their movies connecting with people at the end of the day.  I had no idea I was doing two Lifetime movies, and I’m really honored that they both ended up on Lifetime.  I couldn’t be more thrilled to be a part of this family.

QUESTION:  Also, if I could do a follow up.  With “List of a Lifetime,” the content that you directed following it, did those kind of come hand-in-hand or did your directing come about once you started filming “List of a Lifetime”?  Were they both originated at the same time?

SHANNEN DOHERTY:  No.  So the special content it was sort of broached to me later if I would want to direct it, and the response was absolutely as long as this amazing group of women are comfortable with me directing them, and they were and they were amazing.  Every single one was easy to direct, even Roxy, my director.

ROXY SHIH:  I was so awkward.

SHANNEN DOHERTY:  She took direction perfectly.  Like it was a really —

ROXY SHIH:  The roles were reversed.  It was amazing.

SHANNEN DOHERTY:  It was, right?  I felt weird, like — but you took it so well.  I mean, everybody did.  It was one day, and as I posted on my Instagram, I was like this is like one of the best days of my life, and it was really was.  I just had such a good time, and everybody made it very easy because they’re all pros.

QUESTION:  Thank you.

KELLY HU:  I just have to say before anybody else talks that this was such a sisterhood.  Seriously, this project was really the best project I have ever been on.  Everyone was absolutely amazing, and the sisterhood, the bonding that happened during this project was like no other project that I’ve ever worked on, seriously.


KELLY HU:  Yeah.

SHANNEN DOHERTY:  I agree, and we’re missing our other — you know, we’re missing Autumn, our producer who, you know, just —

KELLY HU:  And Patricia —


SHANNEN DOHERTY:  And Patricia.  Like, yeah, I agree with you.  Out of, I’ve worked on, obviously, a lot of projects, and this is probably one of my favorites because it was just a big bonding — And you guys welcomed me in, because I came a little later.  It was pretty fantastic, a phenomenal cast, phenomenal crew.  Our director was okay.


ROXY SHIH:  Step up.

SHANNEN DOHERTY:  You’re the best.

ROXY SHIH:  The love fest between us.  And we forget that there’s other people in the room.  Sorry —

Poster for "List of a Lifetime"SHANNEN DOHERTY:  Right.

KELLY HU:  I know.

MODERATOR:  We have a question over here for Roxy.  Roxy, did you feel it was important to have strong AAPI representation behind the camera for this movie?

ROXY SHIH:  A hundred percent.  I feel like the rise in inclusive storytelling that has been happening over the past few years as well as the rise of female stories being authentically represented by female filmmakers is just such a game changing sort of movement that’s happened for all of us, but not only is that important, it’s like we see the shift happening behind the scenes as well.  Just because it’s happening in one aspect doesn’t mean that it shouldn’t be happening in all aspects, as well.  So I think with this one I think everybody on here can also say, as well, it was important to me that I had inclusive, diverse key crew, also women and queer people of color and just, you know, it was really just a — and these are all my friends also, so I think that’s what made it really comfortable just because it’s a safe space for me to feel supported on the schedule like this.  But, in all essence, I think that change does need to happen in our industry, and it’s happening by that, like, happening as well.  So I just think if one person starts doing it, if it’s just that one decision, allows more space at the table rather than fighting for that one seat.

MODERATOR:  Thank you so much.

ROXY SHIH:  Thank you.

MODERATOR:  Our next question is from Mekeisha Madden.

QUESTION:  Hi, ladies.  Thanks so much for making the time to talk to us.  Okay, I have to ask this.  This is a nerd out N.C.I.S. moment.  Kelly and Sylvia, did you bond over the N.C.I.S. connection?

KELLY HU:  Wait, we have an N.C.I.S. connection?

SYLVIA KWAN:  Yeah.  I think we were both on N.C.I.S. before.

KELLY HU:  Oh, wow.

QUESTION:  You didn’t know?

KELLY HU:  Were you a victim too?  How funny.

SYLVIA KWAN:  So funny.

KELLY HU:  Wait, I’ve done a couple of N.C.I.S.  I wasn’t always a victim.  Yeah.


SYLVIA KWAN:  You weren’t always a victim.

KELLY HU:  I think I might have shot someone.

SYLVIA KWAN:  Oh, my.  That’s hilarious.  That’s really funny.

QUESTION:  And a serious question to piggyback on what Roxy said.  It was just really great to see women of color in front of and behind the camera.  Can you talk about that?  And just sort of just I’m hoping this is the upward trend that keeps happening.  It was just great to see your story.

SYLVIA KWAN:  Absolutely.  I definitely think as more stories get told, especially with “Shang-Chi” coming out, which was amazing, like I love seeing —

ROXY SHIH:  You looked so hot, yeah.


ROXY SHIH:  When you look — Sorry, go, go.

SYLVIA KWAN:  Sorry.  I was like what?  No.  It definitely is incredible, and it definitely was such an incredible space.  Like even on Chinese New Year or Lunar New Year, sorry, we all wore red, which was so special.  It’s something that I’ve never really experienced being on a set.  I got a little emotional that day.  I got to say, when I walked in and everyone was wearing red I was like, all right, this is different, you know.  So I think it’s so important, and I love that this project had so much diversity behind the camera as well as in front of it.  So I was just really, really grateful to be part of that and kind of part of the change like Roxy was talking about.

KELLY HU:  And, this, I have to say, this was Sylvia’s first film, and we kept teasing her, like don’t get used to this because it doesn’t happen like this.  Like being on set with this kind of love and sisterhood and positivity was so unique, but hopefully there will be more like that.  Maybe, hopefully, Hollywood will be changing and there will be more projects like this where people can come together and really bond the way we did.

QUESTION:  I hope so, too.  Thanks, ladies.

MODERATOR:  Thank you so much.  Our next question is from Luaine Lee.  Luaine, you might be muted.

QUESTION:  I don’t see the unmute.  Can you hear me?

MODERATOR:  Yes, you’re good.

QUESTION:  Okay.  Shannen, your career has been so colorful.  Was there ever a time when you wanted to just give it up?

SHANNEN DOHERTY:  (Laughter.) Every day.  No.  I wouldn’t say give it up.  And, thank you, it has been colorful.  I’m going to take that as a big compliment, because I would hate to think that I was beige, so knowing that my career’s been colorful is — I’d like to think that I’ve chosen projects that are relatable but that are different that challenge me as an actor.  And there were times where it got a little rough as far as the press goes, and that can feel — you can feel a bit defeated, absolutely, but that hasn’t been in so long.  I think, I mean, it’s like thirty years ago, so.  I haven’t felt that in probably like thirty years, and now I just sort of look at like there’s all these new chapters and new opportunities for my career hat I’m super excited about and just ready to keep charging forward.



ROXY SHIH:  Yes, bitch.  Get it.

MODERATOR:  Thank you.  Our next question is from Francine Brokaw.

QUESTION:  Hi, yes.  For Shannen, you’ve popped up a lot on shows that have to do with cancer.  I know you’ve had your struggles with it, I have as well.  Have you gone through any point in your life that says I don’t want to hear the word?  I don’t want to watch anything?  I just want to ignore it for the time being?

SHANNEN DOHERTY:  I think this is the first acting thing I’ve done about cancer, because I’ve been pretty careful about bringing the acting into that world.  But, again, when I read the script, and I found out who all was involved, and I felt like I had to be a part of it, and I was super honored to be a part of it and, again, like what Kelly has been talking about, like, the sisterhood, that made this film even more special.  Like, yes, the topic is special, and everybody’s performances are special, but the sisterhood behind the scenes sort of blows everything else out of the water for me, personally.  And, no, I mean, I don’t — I feel like I have a responsibility in my more public life, which I separate from my acting life, I feel like I have a responsibility to talk about cancer and to perhaps educate people more to let people know that people with stage four are very much alive and very active and more than capable of working, and just to sort of raise money and spread awareness.  So I don’t really get sick of it and in my very close-knit quarters it doesn’t really come up.  My husband says that you would never know that I had cancer.  I don’t ever complain.  I don’t really talk about it.  It’s just it’s part of life at this point.

MODERATOR:  Thank you.  We have time for one more question.  That’s going to be Suzanne.

QUESTION:  Oh, hi.  Who wrote the movie? And do you know why she named the main character Brenda Lee?  I just noticed that as I was watching.

KELLY HU:  You want to take that, Roxy?

ROXY SHIH:  Yeah.  The script was written by Jessica Landry.  Jessica and I haven’t connected.  Like basically the script was given to me by Autumn, our amazing producer, and I read the script.  I was really burnt out at the time.  I read like fifteen pages into it, and I’m like I just have to do this.  So I connected with her and I’m just like, “Yo, girl, really great job on this.  Hey, we shot it.  It was amazing.”  And I think that we’re going to connect in the future, but I think the Brenda Lee thing was probably super random.  Does that have a personal reason with you?

KELLY HU:  Shannen.

QUESTION:  With me?

ROXY SHIH:  Yeah.  Or is it —

QUESTION:  Oh, no.  Just the famous singer Brenda Lee —


ROXY SHIH:  Oh, no.  I don’t think —

KELLY HU:  Oh, that Brenda Lee.

QUESTION:  Oh, I’m probably too old.  Never mind.

ROXY SHIH:  No, maybe I should have — Oh, wait.  Kelly, we should have rethought your character.

KELLY HU:  I know.


ROXY SHIH:  We didn’t do our research apparently, so.

QUESTION:  Thank you.  That’s okay.  Thank you.

ROXY SHIH:  Thank you.

MODERATOR:  Thank you all for taking the time to be on our panel today, ladies.



Presented by Native Deodorant, List of a Lifetime premieres October 10th at 8pm ET/PT and tells the story of Brenda Lee (Hu) who’s prompted to look for the daughter she gave up for adoption decades ago after a breast cancer diagnosis.  After finding Talia (Kwan) and sharing her devasting news, Talia convinces Brenda to make a bucket list of everything she wants to do, promising to help her complete everything on the list.  While keeping Brenda a secret from her adoptive mother Diana (Doherty), Talia grows closer to the mother she never knew.  Meanwhile, Brenda discovers a meaningful relationship with Talia she didn’t know she needed, and a reason to fight for her life.

Following the movie, the aftershow Beyond the List with Shannen Doherty will debut, featuring exclusive conversations with Doherty and the movie’s cast, new never-before-seen photos during Doherty’s breast cancer journey, as well as information from top oncologists Dr. Elise Port and Dr. Philomena McAndrew.  The aftershow also features intimate testimonials from within the A+E Networks family featuring employees affected by breast cancer.

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Interview with Shannen Doherty, Favour Onwuka, and Jenika Rose of “Dying to Belong” on Lifetime by Suzanne 9/14/21

This movie is a remake of a 1997 film. It’s very sad that sororities and fraternities still have hazing, even all of these years later. I enjoyed the movie, which airs Saturday, 10/9. I hope you do, too.

LIfetime had a press day, which included this movie and part of its cast.  Shannen Doherty plays the mom of a girl, Riley, that is hazed at her university’s sorority. Favour Onwuka plays the girl’s friend, Olivia, who is also hazed and tries to get information about the sorority for a newspaper article. It was great to speak with them all, and the executive producer, Danielle Von Zerneck. Shannen has been battling cancer for a while, but she looked great!

My question has my name on it. All of the other questions are from other journalists.

MODERATOR:  Our next panel is “Dying to Belong.”  Please welcome back Shannen Doherty alongside executive producer Danielle von Zerneck and our stars Favour Onwuka and Jenika Rose.  Thank you guys for being here.  We really appreciate your time.  Our first question is from Jamie Ruby.

QUESTION:  Hi, guys.  Thanks for talking to us.  This is for the actors.  I’m just curious did you know how many people die from hazing at sororities, because I definitely learned about that after watching this, and how did that affect how you played your characters?

JENIKA ROSE:  You go first.

FAVOUR ONWUKA:  Yeah, that was something I found out about while researching on this project, because being in Canada you don’t really have sororities here, so it was a new thing for me to learn about, and it’s so sad to find out that people are still dying.  It’s still happening.  It’s terrible because it’s so senseless.  It’s such a senseless way to die.

JENIKA ROSE:  And in the ways that they die, how they’re provoked by their so-called “sisters,” it was just it was really chilling to read and learn about.

MODERATOR:  Thank you.  Our next question is going to be from Suzanne.

Suzanne:  Hi.  I was wondering, Shannen, you’ve been acting since you were a little kid.  There are a lot of young women in this movie.  Did you have any particular advice for them?The girls in an initiation on "Dying to Belong" on Lifetime

SHANNEN DOHERTY:  I don’t think so.  You would have to ask these two, beautiful girls.  Yeah, I don’t think so.  I got very, very, very lucky this year in the people that I got to work with.  Danielle and I have done a movie before together, and as a producer she’s phenomenal and she’s caring.  She understands you.  She hears you.  She never gets flustered.  You don’t.  I mean, she’s really, really, really special and wonderful.  Our director, Gail Harvey, who I’ve also worked with before, it’s just I love her madly.  But working with these two girls was sort of a, you know, I’m going to be brutally honest, you never really know what you’re getting with people this age, you just don’t, and what I encountered was not only two hard working girls who constantly were putting their best foot forward, but they’re also kind and considerate and intelligent.  I don’t know if this is answering your question, but I just felt like I had to say that about everybody in this room right now, because I was really taken aback by how wonderful — and I think I said something to Danielle like maybe first or second day — I was like, God, like they’re really talented — really, really talented.  So I don’t know.  Did I give you any advice?  I didn’t have to.  Like they’re pros.


You did.

JENIKA ROSE:  You did a lot without like specifically being like, “Hey, here’s a hot tip.”  It was more just like observing you, and then you’d just like come over to us and just say something and then walk away, and it was wisdom, but I don’t know if you knew that it was, but it was very helpful, and there are lots of like little things that just pushed us forward.

FAVOUR ONWUKA:  Yeah.  And to add to that, it was a lot of modeling, at least for me, because this was my first lead, so I was taking notes from you.  I was like, “Oh, okay, that’s what Shannen’s doing, and she looks relaxed.  I should be relaxed.”  You know, I was just watching you and learning, and there were times where I’d come up in between — There was one particular time where I came up in between and I was like, “How do you do it,” and you were just like, “Well, this is what I’ve learned,” and you told me that, honestly, it takes time.  It’s something you build up over the years and, yeah, I really — I wrote, I took down notes.  Everything you said I was like, “Must do this.”  So, yes, thank you for all your advice.  It was amazing to have you.

JENIKA ROSE:  Thank you so much.

SHANNEN DOHERTY:  Thank you for being, like, the absolute, you know, beautiful, dedicated actors that you both are.  You honestly blew me away, and I have seen the movie.  I understand that neither one of you have yet.



SHANNEN DOHERTY:  But I have seen it and you guys are phenomenal in it.  Everybody did a great job and, Danielle, obviously, you should be proud, which I know you are.

DANIELLE von ZERNECK:  Very proud.  And I just, sorry — not to make this a love fest — but, at the same time, Shannen, like, the generosity of spirit that you bring, obviously, to every frickin’ thing you do was so — It was a beautiful thing to see all of these really newer to the form actors — (phone rings.) Oh, shit.  Sorry, guys.  And —


DANIELLE von ZERNECK:  Oh, my God.  I’m sorry, guys.  Okay.  Newer to the form, but watching you, they were so in awe and you just, as they said, watching that kind of generational thing, it was gorgeous.  Okay.

SHANNEN DOHERTY:  Did I start this by saying that she never gets flustered, because we just saw her get all flustered.


Suzanne:  Thank you.

MODERATOR:  Thank you, guys.  Our next question is from Jay Bobbin.

QUESTION:  Hi.  My question, actually, is for Danielle, and if your phone goes off again feel free to say anything you want; I’m fine.  Your dad is one of the prolific greats in this field, and when you tackle a project, and I know you’ve been on this side of the camera for a while, do you consult with him about the projects you want to do?  And then I’ve got a follow up for you.

DANIELLE von ZERNECK:  Okay, yeah, yeah.  I mean, how many people can get mentored by their father and it be meaningful?  I mean I feel very, very grateful to have that human in my life, and I love that Shannen’s been a part of both of those as well; like, that’s crazy, you know.  And, yeah, no, I love — Yes, I did always talk to him and not just about sort of — I think for me it was a little like, “Oh, I really think that there is a new way for this story to be told,” so that was like always my impulse with both movies and, especially this one, I was like (makes noise.)  I was talking to Favour and Jenica about this.  Like it’s like sorority movies are like female-ish — male gaze, normally and really thought like, “Oh, let’s put a female gaze on this all around.”  And my dad has always been incredibly supportive.  He loves it.  He loves that TV movies are still have something to say, and I think are really having an interesting renaissance, and I love that the definition of a TV movie is changing, and it’s nice to be part of that and to sort of still have my dad be here to see it.

QUESTION:  My follow up for you is – you did so much work in front of the cameras, what do you feel your arc was as a producer, because you knew what it was like to have the camera on you, how was it for you to be behind the camera?  When I say calling the shots I mean that loosely, not like a director, but how was that transition for you?

DANIELLE von ZERNECK:  It was long and arduous and the only thing I can say is that being an actress for a small amount of time the best thing about it is that every time you do an audition you’re basically selling yourself.  You’re selling, right?  And so when you move into producing and you’re selling a project it was so much easier to sell something that wasn’t me.  And, so, that, in a weird way, the acting stuff was really, really helpful, all the skills I learned.  And what’s crazy now, like I really don’t remember being an actress, it feels very foreign to me, so I’m always like so in awe of actors, because they have to — I don’t know.  I just feel like the work that they have to do is sometimes not noticed as much because they have to keep it different.  It’s like I get to go and I sign things and I run around, but actors sort of have to keep their emotional sanity about them, and these skills that now I just feel like I don’t know how you do it.  I really don’t.

QUESTION:  Thank you very much.

MODERATOR:  Thank you.  We have time for one more question and that’s going to be Jamie.  Jamie.

QUESTION:  Sorry.  I’m just going to say did you guys research anything like into mental health?  I was just curious kind of how you prepared for that part of it.

JENIKA ROSE:   Yeah.  My character has severe general anxiety disorder, and I didn’t know too much about that.  I just sort of knew about people have anxiety, but this was a specific heightened part of anxiety, and I actually have a severe learning disability, so a lot of my character’s experiences were things that I’ve experienced myself in the past when I was younger and being around girls, especially.  So a lot of the situations that my character was in like really rang true, and I did have a best friend that I’ve had for a really long time, that was sort of Favour’s character, that helps one through those times and those people are really special.  So I really connected with that part of the anxiety and just I really wanted to show it in its true light and represent it properly, because I’m sure some people that have it, I didn’t want them to watch it and be like, “Mm, I wouldn’t be like that in that situation.”  So I just really wanted to do my best to make it as truthful as possible.





Los Angeles, CA (August 10, 2021) – Lifetime brings the classic film Dying to Belong to a whole new generation, with Shannen Doherty, Favour Onwuka (Supergirl) and Jenika Rose (iZombie) starring.  Revealing the harsh realities of toxic friendships and sorority hazing culture, Dying to Belong is a remake of the 1997 film of the same name, which starred Hilary Swank, Sarah Chalke, Jenna von Oÿ and Mark-Paul Gosselaar. Dying to Belong will debut this fall on Lifetime.

When journalism major Olivia (Onwuka) meets Riley (Rose), a shy freshman who suffers from anxiety, they become fast friends. Riley, whose mother Katherine (Doherty) was a legacy Pi Gamma Beta, decides to rush in hopes of following Katherine’s footsteps and is ecstatic when Olivia joins her. Sensing the opportunity to go undercover to write a story about hazing practices, Olivia soon discovers there are deadly secrets involved in being part of the “sisterhood.”

From 1959 to 2019, there has been at least one hazing death reported each year, and thirty reported within the last decade1. 95% of students hazed do not report it to officials2. Due to the pandemic, 2020 was the first year no hazing deaths were reported. Within the first two weeks of students returning to campus in 2021, two hazing deaths have already been reported.

Dying to Belong marks Doherty’s second movie for Lifetime this year as she also stars in List of a Lifetime, the network’s centerpiece of the Stop Breast Cancer for Life campaign, for which Doherty directed special content that will roll out in October for Breast Cancer Awareness Month.

As part of Lifetime’s commitment to hiring women in key production roles under the Broader Focus initiative, Dying to Belong is produced by Pink Buffalo Films and Wishing Floor Films with Danielle von Zerneck (The Christmas Set Up) executive producing, Gail Harvey (Gone Mom: The Disappearance of Jennifer Dulos) directs from a script from Caitlin D. Freyers (Wynona Earp). Shawn Angelski (Story of a Girl) also serves as executive producer. The original film’s producers included Frank von Zerneck, Danielle von Zerneck’s father.




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Y&R Transcript Friday, October 8, 2021

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Adam: I’m looking for gaines.

Billy: Who?

Adam: Jesse gaines. Are you really gonna pretend like you don’t know who he is, billy?

Billy: I’ll pretend however i have to to get you the hell out of here so I can go upstairs and pack for tuscany.

Adam: [ Sighs ] Relax, billy. You can sleep in tomorrow, because you’re not going to tuscany. You’re not getting anywhere near victoria’s wedding.

Billy: Yeah, and who’s gonna stop me, adam, you?

Adam: If you’re smart, it won’t come to that. You’ll stop yourself from making a move that, I promise you, you will live to regret.

Victoria: Are you hiding out in here?

Ashland: I was hoping you would join me. We haven’t had a chance to talk since your parents arrived and you made it clear that the wedding was still on.

Victoria: What is there to talk about? Everything’s happening as planned.

Ashland: Well, I wanted to know more about your decision process.

Victoria: Why? You seemed happy when you heard the news.

Ashland: I was. I am. But —

Victoria: Something has changed?

Ashland: [ Sighs ] I want nothing more in this life than to be your husband, and i was thrilled to hear that you still intend to walk down that aisle, but…now I’m not sure you should. I think…perhaps I should call off the wedding.

Victor: Baby. I’m surprised you’re back so soon. I thought you were checking on the wedding preparations.

Nikki: Ah, yes, I was. Kind of.

Victor: What do you mean “kind of”?

Nikki: I was speaking with ashland.

Victor: Oh.

Nikki: After hearing everything he finally confessed to victoria, I was urging him to back out of the wedding.

Victor: You did what?

Nikki: Of course, I don’t know if he will or not, but he knows how I feel.

Victor: How could you? We are sending mixed messages. I just told victoria how happy i was that she was marrying ashland.

Tessa: [ Sighs ] I just wish you were coming to italy like we originally planned. I’m gonna hate being there without you, and I don’t like the idea of you being by yourself here.

Mariah: Why? Are you scared to leave me alone?

Tessa: I didn’t say that.

Mariah: You didn’t have to. You are worried that I’m gonna fall apart or I’m gonna start freaking out over dominic.

Tessa: Okay, you’re putting words in my mouth. I didn’t think anything like that. I’m not scared to leave you alone, but, yeah, I’m concerned.

Mariah: It’s fine. I’m going to be fine. I’m not in crisis mode. I just want to be nearby in case dominic still has a cold or any problems come up.

Tessa: Okay, um…well, what exactly are you going to do if something comes up?

Mariah: I still want to be the person who protects him like I did before he was born. My mind knows that it isn’t my job. It’s just that my heart — my heart hasn’t caught up.

Tessa: I get that. I’m sorry.

Mariah: I’m doing my best to accept that my role in the baby’s life has changed. That’s why I’m keeping my distance from him.

Tessa: Except you aren’t, really, if you feel like you need to be within a 10-mile radius of him just in case.

Mariah: I realize that it doesn’t make a lot of sense to you, but that’s just what i need.

Tessa: Okay, I’m sorry. I just — I just — I really want you to get back to your old self again. No, I’m sorry, scratch that. I don’t want you to erase what happened. I know that that experience changed you, and that’s fine by me. I love every version of you. All I care about is helping you find your way back to being happy again.

Mariah: Well, I know something that would make me happy — having a baby of our own. You know, it would give me a new sense of focus and purpose, but you took that completely off the table, so where do I go from here?

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Tessa: All I want is for us to take our time and really plan for our future as parents. You know what? That gives me an idea. If you come to tuscany, after the wedding, maybe we can stay in italy for a few days and just bop around.

Mariah: How many times do i have to tell you? I am not comfortable with going.

Tessa: Well, just, you know, think about it. I mean, it could be a mini vacation. Just picture us in rome, walking around the pantheon. Maybe being somewhere that’s thousands of years old would give us some perspective.

Mariah: So, contemplating ancient ruins with tourists and souvenir salesmen. Yeah, I just don’t think that I’m up for it.

Tessa: Okay, well, then we will just do something that’s not in the guidebooks. Oh, maybe that italian metal band that we like that won eurovision, maybe they’re doing a gig. Maybe just screaming in a crowd of thousands of people after being with the fancy newmans will really be what we need.

Mariah: That does sound like us. And I haven’t been to a concert in so long.

Tessa: It would be fun, cathartic. And afterward, when we’re relaxed and rejuvenated, we can start talking about a family.

Mariah: So, now it sounds suspiciously like a bribe. Luring me to tuscany with the promises of planning for our future baby?

Tessa: Is it working?

Victoria: Why would you change your mind about going through with the wedding?

Ashland: Because I wasn’t seeing beyond what I wanted, until I spoke with nikki.

Victoria: What did my mother say to you?

Ashland: She was worried that you were moving forward with the wedding for all the wrong reasons. And if that’s true, that would devastate me. I want you to be happy. I want this to be the best day of your life, and if it’s not…

Victoria: I know my mother meant well, but she’s wrong. I’m doing exactly what I need to do.

Ashland: Marrying me to avoid questions and the potential scandal, to protect the company.

Victoria: It’s in both of our best interests.

Ashland: You know, a year ago, I would have been right there with you. Guard the company at all costs. That was always my standard operating procedure.

Victoria: It’s not anymore?

Ashland: No. Your love has profoundly changed me. And I know I betrayed that love by keeping secrets from you. And I can see how deeply wounded you are. Earlier, when you could barely look at me when you were talking about the wedding preparations? That destroyed me. I do not want you to go through with this marriage if your heart is no longer in it.

Nikki: After everything ashland has kept from victoria, you’re okay with this wedding? How are you not as shocked as i am? Oh. Oh.

Victor: What?

Nikki: How long have you known the details about ashland’s past?

Victor: Oh, a while.

Nikki: Mm-hmm. And you kept it quiet from me and from our daughter.

Victor: Let me just say i didn’t want the press to get ahold of the information, alright? And I certainly didn’t want billy boy to get ahold of it.

Nikki: Well, what exactly does billy know?

Victor: How the hell do i know? I think he’s continued the investigation as we speak.

Nikki: [ Sighs ] I could say a lot about him, also about how you have handled this, but I am mostly concerned about victoria.

Victor: Sweetheart, obviously, so am I.

Nikki: How can you believe it’s a good idea for victoria to get married simply because she thinks it’s good for business? Obviously, her heart is broken.

Adam: Time to wake up. Victoria made her choice. She’s marrying ashland.

Billy: Well, it’s not over until she says “I do.”

Adam: Billy, whatever shred of decency you have left, whatever affection you still feel for victoria should be enough to make you realize that you have to let her live her life. Why are you so hell-bent on sabotaging her happiness?

Billy: Actually, I’m trying to ensure her happiness.

Adam: Is that what you tell yourself? Man, how do you sleep at night?

Billy: Like a baby. Because I am entirely at peace with trying to stop victoria from marrying a deceitful, duplicitous man like ashland locke.

Adam: Whatever the guy is or he isn’t, none of us — not me, not victor, and certainly not you — have the right to throw stones. So by tracking down this guy from his past, you just look petty and —

Billy: Oh, my god. I have no idea what you’re talking about. You keep mentioning this guy. Jamie gams or whatever the hell his name is?

Adam: Jesse gaines. Just come off of it. I know you met with this shady character from his past, that goes all the way back to when he started his career. So you know the guy’s father was the lawyer for the woman that gave him his first break.

Billy: Wow, adam, you should be a private investigator, ’cause that’s really great information right there. And this gaines guy sounds like he’s got a really great story, but what I am most intrigued about right now in this moment is you running over here at this hour, wondering if I’m meeting with some guy, when you should be on a plane.

Adam: You gave away your hand when you were practically bragging that someone was gonna help victoria see the light. That was gaines.

Billy: And it didn’t bother you then. Didn’t even raise a question. So is there a specific threat that this guy poses now? Because so far, you’ve given me a bunch of basic information that, honestly, any tool could’ve looked up.

Adam: You were the threat, billy, and this impulse to interfere in victoria’s life.

Billy: [ Chuckles ] There’s one good thing about knowing you for as long as i have. I can see right through you, and you’ve got nothing. You know what happened? Your father called you and told you to jump, and you said, “how high?” Your own father doesn’t trust you with the details. Who’s pathetic now?


Victor: Sweetheart, if i thought for one moment that marrying ashland would be to victoria’s detriment, I would have asked her to walk away, i would have done that. You know that.

Nikki: Yes, but I don’t know that you are seeing her true feelings underneath her armor. I mean, she always wants to appear to be so tough and in control in front of you, but she’s gotten very good at hiding her hurt and pain.

Victor: Well, I’m not pretending that, you know, she’ll solve the situation with a snap of her fingers. All I know is that she loves him. He loves her. I think that’s the most important thing for our daughter, I really do. I mean, I know that he desperately wants to spend whatever time he has left in his life with her.

Nikki: Well, god knows I want her to be happy. And if this marriage will make her happy, I will support it.

Victor: Well, then let’s not stand in her way.

Adam: I’m actually on the inside of this situation. You are one that’s on the outside with your little nose pressed up against the glass, so whatever you’re trying to do, billy, it’s not gonna work.

Billy: Oh, you mean tell the truth?

Adam: No. Divert attention away from the matter at hand. Now, my father and I, we are in complete agreement that victoria deserves to have her wedding go off without a hitch.

Billy: Can we please skip this little dance? You try to convince me that you’re a changed man and you’ve turned the corner and you’re actually somewhat of a decent human being or a good brother?

Adam: It’s fine by me. I don’t give a damn about your opinion because I know that i have changed.

Billy: No, adam, you don’t give a damn about your sister, and she barely tolerates you.

Adam: I’m not gonna pretend like we’re close, but things are a lot better than they’ve ever been, and you know what? I respect her as a businesswoman.

Billy: That’s very sweet of you, and you should, because your father does. He put her in charge. Yes, he’s had somebody else sit in that chair over the years, but he’s always looked over their shoulder, micro-managing them. Not this time. He has fully put her in charge.

Adam: Yeah, ’cause he’s focused on his new venture with me.

Billy: That’s what it is. It’s got to kill you that you got the consolation prize, right? You’re stuck with newman media.

Adam: I’m thrilled to be at the helm of newman media. I’m proud to be working with my father, and I’m actually doing everything I can to restore my relationships with my brother and my sisters. See, I’m not out to destroy anyone’s life, unlike you, billy, because you are now the destructive one.

Billy: I am protecting victoria and my kids.

Adam: I don’t buy that for a second. Victoria can take care of herself and johnny and katie. She doesn’t need you to save her or help her, and that’s why i know this isn’t even about her, it’s about you and your jealousy and insecurity to let go in this little delusional belief that you know what’s best.

Billy: Okay. I am not jealous. That’s not what this is about.

Adam: You may have moved on from victoria a long time ago, but it kills you that she moved on and she’s marrying a man that is superior to you in so many ways, billy. He’s a better businessman than you. He’s an actual grown-up, not a man-child, and I’m sure that he will treat her better than you ever will.

Billy: Are you the president of his fan club all of a sudden?

Adam: No, I’ll leave that title to victoria. But I’ve gotten to know the guy a little bit, and I like him. But the most important thing is I think he’s a good influence on your kids.

Billy: Don’t mention me and don’t mention victoria and don’t ever talk about my kids.

Adam: Relax. We’re just talking.

Billy: You got a plane to catch, and so do I. So unless you plan to drug me and lock me away until after the wedding, get the hell out of here.

Adam: You know, I don’t have to stop you, billy, ’cause you’re gonna fail. This whole thing, it’s gonna blow up in your face. And, man, I can’t wait to have a front-row seat to your humiliation.

[ Scoffs ]

Victoria: You think you have me all figured out, but even when I was furious with you, I never said that my heart wasn’t in it.

Ashland: I’m so sorry that i hurt you by hiding the truth. And I’m sorry that the person that I was all those years ago has come back to threaten what we have built together. For decades, I have done everything in my power to preserve my success. The irony of all of that is not lost on me. Not in comparison to what you feel about me. The real me. And now that you know the entire story…what are you thinking when you look at me?

Victoria: When I couldn’t sleep last night, all I could think about was what you told me about your past. And I asked myself what would i do if I was in your position.

Ashland: I have no doubt that you would have done the morally right thing in each instance, because you’re a good person.

Victoria: [ Chuckles ]

Ashland: And there is a line that you would never cross.

Victoria: What does that make you?

Ashland: A ruthless, sometimes self-serving man who wants to be better. Because of you. And I want to live because of you. And I want a chance to make amends because of you.

Victoria: I believe you. I do, and I want to give you that chance.

[ Sighs ] Because, despite everything, i love you. I always will. I still want to be your wife.

Ashland: God, I love you.


Mariah: Your offer is tempting. I would love to spend some time with you in italy.

Tessa: So join me.

Mariah: Tessa, I wish i could, but I am not ready to pull away from dominic. That’s just my reality.

Tessa: Okay.

Mariah: Moving out of the mansion was a huge step for me, the correct step. But I still have a lot of issues that I need to take care of so i can comfortably disconnect in a healthy way. Abby is dominic’s mom. I know that she’s gonna take care of him. But what if I’m gone and he needs breast milk?

Tessa: Well…there are other options.

Mariah: I know. Abby talked about switching to formula, but I still want to make it clear that I’m here and I’m willing to provide for him. So that means that I ne– I need to stick around. Hopefully you understand?

Tessa: Yeah, I understand… that you’re making a lot of excuses.

Gaines: You hid me upstairs like a mistresS.

Billy: You overstate your allure.

Gaines: Was that who I think it was?

Billy: Yeah, it was adam newman.

Gaines: Victor newman’s son. That’s not good.

Billy: It’s fine, okay? He did not know you were upstairs. Everything’s gonna be okay. But right now, we got to get the show on the road. So let’s go to the airport.

Gaines: Wait a minute, i never agreed to a trip to tuscany with you. That wasn’t part of our arrangement. You see, this is where I say it was a pleasure doing business with you. Ciao.

Billy: No, no, no, you’re not saying ciao. Okay, you need to come with me. I will make it worth your while.

Victoria: [ Chuckles ]

Elena: Ooh.

Nate: I told you we were too early.

Ashland: [ Clears throat ]

Victoria: Oh. Hi, welcome!

Ashland: How was the flight over?

Elena: Hey, it was perfect. I mean, it was a private jet. How could it not be? There were no babies crying, no one kicking the back of my seat or hogging the arm rest, and we had champagne.

Nate: Mm, thank you for arranging all of that.

Ashland: Well, it’s my pleasure. It’s the least I can do for my best man and his lovely lady.

Nate: Just so you know, I am taking my duties seriously. Anything you need, I am here for you. And, victoria, as your friend, too, my wedding party responsibilities don’t stop with ashland.

Victoria: Oh, so kind of you, but, listen, my only request is that you enjoy every moment and you show elena a great time. Everything’s under control.

Elena: [ Chuckles ]

Ashland: Why don’t I show you guys to your room and give you the lay of the land. Excuse me. Right this way. You have always loved vicks vapors.

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Gaines: As much as I would love to continue to pad my bank account, there are other factors to consider on a jaunt to italy.

Billy: Like what?

Gaines: You would basically be delivering me into the hands of the two men that I betrayed. How do I know that I can trust you, that you won’t use me and then screw me over and throw me to the wolves?

Billy: Because we want the same thing and you just helped me out big time, okay? So there’s nothing you need to worry about. I’ve got your back.

Gaines: [ Sighs ]

Billy: Listen to me. Neither victor nor ashland are ever gonna do anything with that many people in attendance. We get in, we get out. Everything is fine. The only thing you need to do is tell victoria everything you told me here tonight. Show her the letter proving that ashland locke broke the law and that his career, everything he’s ever done, is built on a pack of lies.

Gaines: You know, it sounds simple enough, but these things have a way of quickly becoming complicated and dangerous.

Billy: You need to trust me. I will get you out of there safely without an ounce of risk. And we can come up with another financial arrangement that squashes your concerns about being in the same location as lurch and locke.

Gaines: While I am feeling a little bit more open-minded, I’m still not fully on board here.

Billy: Okay. Well, there’s one more argument that I can make. There is something in this for you far sweeter than any amount of money.

Nate: Hey, hey, hey. You seem a little unsteady. Are you okay?

Ashland: You know, I’m gonna say this to you and only you, I’m not feeling that great, but I will be damned if I’m going to let anything get in the way of this wedding to victoria.

Elena: That view is unbelievably stunning.

Ashland: I agree. I can’t imagine a more perfect setting for this ceremony, and i want you to thank you so much for your sage advice and support the other day when I was feeling down. I took your advice, and i followed my heart. And it seems like it worked out pretty well.

Elena: I think you should tell him.

Nate: I don’t want to bring the mood down, but elena and i bumped into billy before we took off. He alluded to some information he learned about you. Maybe some of the things you were concerned about when you and I last spoke.

Elena: He made it very clear that he hopes the wedding won’t happen.

Ashland: Yeah, well, I truly appreciate your warning, but victoria and I and her parents are fully aware of billy’s intentions, and despite whatever he may think, there’s nothing he can do to stop the wedding.

Nate: Well, that’s good to hear.

Ashland: Listen, this has nothing to do with the two of you. I want you guys to go settle in, go get a glass of wine or two, and I’ll catch up with you in a little while, okay?

Nate: Alright, thanks.

Ashland: Thank you.

Elena: See you soon. Well, I’m glad ashland doesn’t seem worried, ’cause it would be a shame if billy caused trouble in paradise. Because this place is definitely paradise.

[ Chuckles ]

Nate: Look at you. You seem calmer and looser than you’ve been in weeks.

Elena: You know, I think i really am. Although, I was a bit anxious when we were driving through florence. I mean, there’s so much to see. I don’t know how we’re gonna get it all in. From sight-seeing to wedding festivities, and we’re only here a few days.

Nate: We can’t, but I have a solution. We could plan a trip to come back, see all the tourist-y things.

Elena: Well, I would love that.

Nate: But we need to prioritize what we want to see the most on this trip.

Elena: Well, you’re the expert. What are your can’t-miss sights?

Nate: The theater of silence. It’s this serene natural amphitheater, and there’s this jaw-dropping waterfall nearby.

Elena: Well, I would love to see that with you. Although, if your plan was to get me to relax, you’re failing, because the thought of being with you in such an idyllic place makes my heart race.

Nate: Mine, too.

Victor: Wow.

Nikki: [ Sighs ]

Victor: The ambiance.

Nikki: It is magical.

Victor: I think just being here is going to — is going to help ashland and victoria along, you know? I mean, who can help but fall in love more?

Nikki: [ Chuckles ] No one.

[ Chuckles ]

[ Cellphone chimes ]

Victor: Oh.

[ Sighs ] Yeah, so…I got to take this, okay?

Nikki: What? What’s going on?

Victor: I have to take care of something, my love.

Nikki: Oh.

Victor: Be right back.


Mariah: I am not making excuses. I have legit reasons for wanting to stay in genoa city.

Tessa: I didn’t intend to sound harsh. I get it, it just — ah! This is all so complicated. I didn’t mean to put any pressure on you or make you feel like I’m not with you 100%, because I am.

Mariah: Well, sometimes it doesn’t feel that way.

Tessa: This is hard. For both of us. And it just came out the wrong way. I promised I wouldn’t let you go through any of this alone, and i meant it. I’m here for you, and I’m here to help you in any way I can.

Mariah: Then stay with me. Please, don’t go to the wedding.

Nikki: Benvenuti!

Elena: Nikki! You look gorgeous. Mwah!

Nikki: Oh, thank you. So do you. Italy brings out the best in everybody.

Nate: Thank you for having us, nikki.

Nikki: I’m just so happy that you could be here, and I am thrilled to be the matron of honor to your best man.

Nate: Oh, well, the honor is all mine.

Nikki: [ Chuckles ]

Elena: And this palazzo is gorgeous.

Nikki: Oh, thank you. Isn’t it something? Victor and I gave it to victoria and ashland for their wedding present.

Nate: Wow. [ Chuckles ] That is one amazing gift.

Elena: Yes, and I’m sure it’s gonna be filled with lots of special memories for the newlyweds.

Nikki: Oh, I hope so.

Nate: And I’m looking forward to catching up with you and victor.

Nikki: Well, so are we. Victor had to step out for a minute. You know my husband, it’s always something.

[ Light laughter ]

Adam: Gaines was spotted entering billy’s apartment building tonight. So I went over there and i confronted billy about it, who denied knowing who the guy was, but he was being even more smug than usual, so I think the two of them are colluding.

Victor: Really?

Adam: I did everything i could to try to dissuade him from coming to italy, but he seems more fired up than even before to stop the wedding.

Victor: Well, son, I’m not blaming you, okay? I know you did everything you could.

Adam: Well, I was at a slight disadvantage since you didn’t give me any specifics on gaines or how he’s a threat to victoria and ashland.

Victor: I did not tell you because I didn’t trust you — nothing to do with that. I just didn’t want to disseminate the information for victoria’s sake, alright? I hadn’t even told nikki about it.

Adam: But you need to tell me now. The more that I know, the more that I can help. And I want to do whatever I can to help you and victoria.

Victor: Okay, I’ll tell you everything.

Gaines: What is that you think is sweeter than money? ‘Cause I can’t think of much.

Billy: Revenge. What did you say when you mentioned you resented ashland? You rightfully resented him for practically stealing your father from you. He got all the praise, he got all the accolades, and you — you got shoved to the sidelines.

Gaines: You really do understand.

Billy: I know a little something about being a black sheep of the family. I’m gonna be honest, jesse, your situation is worse, ’cause ashland used your father for his own good. And sure, he paid you off along the way, but you never got any respect. He still looks down his nose at you.

Gaines: Which is why I am happy to help you expose him for what and who he is. Yeah, it would be a magnificent moment.

Billy: Think about how satisfying it would be to know that you were a part of it. To take down ashland locke. I mean, you’d be able to see the look on his face when he realizes that you were the one with the power all along.

Gaines: You do make a persuasive argument.

Billy: So?

Gaines: When do we leave?

Billy: We’ll get the last flight out. I got to finish packing, make a phone call. Grab yourself a drink or a bite to eat. Make yourself comfortable.

Gaines: Don’t mind if I do. Hey, billy.

Billy: Yeah?

Gaines: This trip is gonna be one for the ages.

Billy: Yeah, it is. You’ll get your long-deserved revenge, and I will stop someone that I care very much about from making one of the biggest mistakes of her life. We’re for those who love to discover.

Mariah: I doubt it would be a problem if you backed out of the performance. I heard that leslie brooks is gonna be there. One fabulous musician should be enough. Or you could say that you’re sick.

Tessa: No, mariah, I can’t do that.

Mariah: Why not?

Tessa: It’s too late. It wouldn’t be right. They’re counting on me.

Mariah: Yeah, yeah, I am — I’m sorry.

Tessa: Yeah, it would be really unprofessional.

Mariah: You’re right. Go, have — have a great time. I’m gonna let you finish packing.

Tessa: Whoa, no, no, no, no. Hey. We have to keep talking about this.

Mariah: No, it’s fine. We don’t have to. We can — we can talk when you get back.

Adam: Ashland has been paying gaines for years to keep the original camilla rhodes letter quiet? Guy built his entire empire off stolen money from mentor’s estate? That’s quite a lot to process. How’s victoria handling it?

Victor: Well, I think her relationship with ashland transcends everything that happened years ago.

Adam: I’m glad to hear that.

Victor: To be frank with you, I think those two belong together.

Adam: And they will be, unless billy shows up shooting his mouth off. Not only would that be mortifying for victoria and ashland, but it would destroy ashland’s legacy, not to mention damage newman/locke and newman media.

Victor: How did you end things with billy?

Adam: I told him he’d be shooting himself in the foot and he would fail, because that’s what billy does. But I’m not sure we can even count on him to fail properly, and I don’t even know if gaines is still in the picture.

Victor: I paid that gaines S.O.B. A lot of money to go away. He didn’T. He broke his word to me.

Adam: So how far do you want me to go to stop them?

Billy: I just wanted to check in with you. I’m just about to leave for italy. How’s california? Oh, good, okay. And how’s mattie? Oh, great. I’m glad to hear that. Yeah, johnny and katie are good. Hannah’s gonna have them all packed up and ready to go when you get back, but I’ll keep you posted. You might not actually have to get on that flight, because if everything goes the way I think it will, there won’t be a wedding to attend.

Elena: Being here, you’re just so transported.

Ashland: It’s a magnificent venue, huh?

Victoria: We just want all of our guests to feel like they’re, you know, like they’re a part of the family, at home with us, enjoying a beautiful celebration.

Nate: Oh, we do.

Victoria: You know, if you guys ever decide to get married, we could loan you the palazzo.

Nate: [ Clears throat ]

Elena: [ Chuckles ] We’ll have to keep that in mind.

Nate: Uh, yeah. Well, you two are making tying the knot look pretty appealing.

Elena: Absolutely. Relationship goals.

Victoria: Well, let me just say, it’s never easy, but communication is key.

Ashland: Just keep talking.

Victor: Well, hello, everybody.

Ashland: Here he is!

Nikki: Hi, darling.

Victor: Don’t let me interrupt.

Victoria: Oh, you’re not. No, not at all. Ashland and I were just saying how lucky we are to have made it this far. And the best is yet to come.

Nate: Mm-hmm.

Victor: See? Everything is going well. And it will continue to go well.

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Jack: You can almost feel the magic of tuscany in the air.

Nikki: Perfect for a wedding.

Summer: Buona sera, everybody.

Nikki: Oh!

[ Indistinct speaking ]

Summer: [ Chuckles ]

Leslie: Where’s the happy couple?

Victor: My goodness, leslie brooks. How nice to see you.

Ashland: Just in case you have any plans to disrupt the wedding, there’s something you should know.

Victor: The hell are you doing here?

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Ashland: Good morning.

Victoria: Good morning.

Ashland: I’m hoping a genuine italian espresso will give me the jolt that I need. I didn’t sleep very well.

Victoria: Was your bed not comfortable?

Ashland: [ Sigh deeply ] Well, [Smacks lips] I couldn’t get past the fact that you weren’t in it.

Victoria: Oh, I see. So, I’m the reason for your insomnia?

Ashland: No, I did not say that. I know that I have to give you all the space that you need because what I [Inhales deeply] Told you about my past is a lot to process.

[ Sighs ] How did you sleep?

Victoria: I probably did more thinking than I did sleeping.

Ashland: Oh, last night, uh, your primary concern seemed to be about the company. And now that i’ve told you

[Sighs] Everything about my past, and you’ve had time to work through it, I want to know where your head is at. M-more importantly… where’s your heart? Are we having a wedding?

[ Footsteps approaching ]

Nikki: Victoria?

Victor: What good news!

Nikki: Ashland? What are you both doing here?

Billy: Yes, lily is flying back from california. Then, she’s gonna pick up johnny and katie. The three of them together will fly to italy. I’m going earlier. There’s a work emergency — a fire that I need to put out. One other thing, hannah. Do you mind letting victoria know the change of plans? She’s not taking my calls at the moment. Yeah. Okay, I appreciate it. I will. Thank you.

Gaines: Putting out fires, huh? Seems like you’re more interested in burning everything down.

Sally: So, I reached out to a bunch of fashion people in L.A.

Chloe: I thought you ruined all of your relationships there.

Sally: I did. Which is why, when I casually mentioned that I was going to the newman-locke wedding and hinted that there would be some fashion news to follow, I knew that they would turn around to everyone that they knew and say, “guess what sally spectra is up to now.”

Chloe: I can’t believe I let you talk me into this. Our plan now relies on gossipmongers.

Sally: Yeah, well, if we can’t rely on them to spread rumors, you can’t count on anything in this world.

Chloe: It’s just so risky. I mean, and if anything comes out about that wedding, we should be the ones publishing it.

Sally: Okay, first of all, stop saying “if.” There will be news. And second, if newman media’s new fashion platform puts out a story about me designing victoria’s wedding dress, it will look self-serving. But if another outlet does it, it’s a hot scoop. This way, we can get credibility from all these other sources.

Chloe: Okay. I like it. So, we pretend that we got scooped, but we are the ones who really planted the story.

Sally: It’ll be a huge boost for us.

Chloe: Now all you have to do is fly across the ocean with the dress and convince victoria to wear it just days before she walks down the aisle. What could possibly go wrong?

Adam: Any luck finding gaines?

[ Sighs ] Alright. Well, just keep searching. He’s got to be out there somewhere, and I have to find him before I get on a plane to italy.

Victoria: What are you doing here? Aren’t you supposed to be in milan?

Victoria: We left right after the ceremony so that we could come here and make sure everything was ready for your arrival. I am your matron of honor, after all.

Victoria: But we weren’t expecting you for another day. Is there something —

Victor: We just wanted to make sure that everything’s alright, you know? It’s a beautiful day outside. Going to be like that for the rest of the week. Ideal for a wedding. Nope

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Nikki: Well, I’m glad that we all got here early. It’ll give us a chance to all go over the details, make sure everything is perfect. So, do you have any big concerns about anything?

Victoria: You know, before we get into that, I would love to hear about summer and kyle’s wedding.

Nikki: Oh, just beautiful. I mean, not as big of an affair as yours, of course, but it was just so simple and elegant. And, oh, do I have some photos to show you.

Victor: Some photos? How about 800 of them?

[ Laughter ]

Nikki: Well, he’s not half wrong, there. Wait until you see summer in her marchetti gown. Exquisite. And she and kyle are so much in love, and that really came through in the ceremony.

Victoria: I’m so glad.

Nikki: But the best part of the wedding was little harrison. You know, he was our ring bearer, or as he liked to call it, “ring barrel.”

[ Laughter ]

Victor: By the way, he was the star of the show, you know.

Ashland: Yes.

Victor: And he’s so looking forward to doing the same thing for the two of you.

Ashland: Aww, can’t wait to see him.

Nikki: So, um, is everything good here?

Victoria: Y-yes, everything’s fine. We just wanted to get here early so that I could see firsthand that all of the preparations were being handled on schedule.

Nikki: And is everything to your satisfaction?

Victoria: Oh, so far, yes. But I’d like to show you the terrace. Maybe you have some additional ideas for the decorations.

Nikki: Oh. Sure.

Ashland: [ Inhales deeply ] I’m guessing that you didn’t rush here from milan to check on the floral arrangements.

Victor: I have news from home that’s got me concerned.

Victoria: So, after we got here, ashland finally came clean about the part of his past that he finds so shameful. It has to do with his former mentor, camilla rhodes, and how he acquired her tv stations.

Nikki: Oh. I know a lot of people have questions about that.

Victoria: Billy and nick. And as it turns out, there was something to their suspicions. When camilla passed away, she —

[Sighs] She left ashland her estate.

Nikki: Okay, well, that’s a simple explanation.

Victoria: No, no, mom, unfortunately, it isn’t that simple because she didn’t actually leave him anything. Ashland was working together with camilla’s lawyer, and — and they forged a — a letter that added him to her will.

Nikki: Are you kidding me?!

Victoria: No, I’m not. I’m not kidding you.

Nikki: My god! You know, you’d think that he would have told you, before you got to italy, that his entire empire is based on not a lie but a crime.

Victoria: Great.

Nikki: Oh, you were right to worry that there would be more secrets. This is a big one. And who’s to say it’s the last?

Victoria: I think that it might be. He swears that it is. And I’m inclined to believe him, because I — I let him know that I will not any more lies. I just — I wish he would have come to me with this in the first place.

Nikki: Oh, my darling, I feel so awful for you. I know how much you were looking forward to this week and everything. What can we do? Listen… if you want to cancel the wedding, I will contact the planner, and she will cancel it. She will alert all of the guests — hopefully, before they travel. And then you don’t have to put yourself through that.

Ashland: I don’t know if i can take anymore bad news.

Victor: Let’s have a seat. I got to tell you, that billy boy abbott is trying to start more trouble by digging into your past.

Ashland: Well, I knew that already.

Victor: One thing I need to warn you about. He may seem like an idiot at times — and he is — but he’s wily and tenacious. I’ve having my son adam watch him.

Ashland: Well, victor, I’m — I appreciate that, but I’m really not worried anymore. I’ve told victoria everything. Nobody has any leverage to hold over my head. Granted, I don’t want the story to go public. But you took care of gaines, right?

Victor: That’s the problem. Gaines has slipped off my radar.

Ashland: What? You don’t know where he is?

Victor: Don’t you worry about a thing. We’ll find him. Okay? I will allow no one or nothing to ruin my daughter’s big day.

Victoria: All that matters right now is protecting newman/locke. We can’t let the family business that we have all worked so hard for to be decimated by a scandal or the merger — this merger that is so important to our future.

Nikki: Merger or marriage? Because you seem to be mixing the two.

Victoria: Mother, I have looked at this from every angle. I can’t do anything that is gonna raise suspicions and cause some sort of an investigation into ashland or locke communications group.

Nikki: I understand that you are talking like a C.E.O. Right now, but I am speaking to you as your mother. What about your emotions?

Victoria: I cannot think about that right now. I need to focus. This wedding has to happen. It’s got to happen, mom.

[ Duffel bag zips ]

Billy: Well, that was quite the tale. Thank you for filling me in on ashland locke’s humble beginnings.

Gaines: Well, I love telling a good story, but I swear, all of that one is true.

Billy: Well, I expected something devious, but the audacity of a young man to forge a letter that will change camilla rhodes’ will, leaving her entire fortune to him, it’s almost impressive.

Gaines: Yeah, she wasn’t gonna leave him a cent. Ashland was desperate. I suppose that will be interesting to your readers if it’s worth all that to him.

Billy: That right there is not for clickbait. That’s to protect victoria from making a huge mistake, and every single dollar came from me personally. So I’m not letting you walk out of here until I have proof that the story you just told me is true.

Gaines: This should do the trick.

Billy: What is that?

Gaines: It’s a copy of the letter that she originally wrote to locke — the real one, not the one he and my father forged. It’s everything anyone needs to destroy ashland locke. We do it every night.

Gaines: Hold on, cowboy.

Billy: Jesse, we have a deal.

Gaines: Sure. This is a copy of the original. I’m not an idiot. And you don’t get anything unless I am guaranteed protection from victor.

Billy: There is a bag of cash sitting in front of you. And I told you that I will show you the exit plan to make sure that victor is off your back.

Gaines: I just need to know he won’t come after me.

Billy: And don’t kid yourself. He’s gonna come after you. But I will protect you.

[ Envelope taps tabletop ] Okay, you’re not gonna give me the letter, you read it to me right now.

Gaines: Alright.

[ Sighs ] “Dear ashland, you know I care deeply for you. You’re like a son I never had. Your drive and ambition have no limits. You have already overcome so much, and that struggle has been character-building” — yeah, certainly built him into a character, alright — a money-hungry tyrant — “which is why I’m not leaving you any inheritance. I feel it is in your best interests to make it on your own. Farewell, dear ashland. Go forth and prosper. I know you will. — Camilla.”

[ Paper rustling ]

Billy: A lot to digest in there. There’s one thing missing, though.

Gaines: What?

Billy: You said ashland and your father forged her deathbed letter, used as a codicil to change the will. Where’s your proof of that?

Chloe: Okay, well, I can follow up with some of my contacts in the morning. And if they haven’t heard anything about victoria’s wedding, I will just take a page out of your book, throw your name around, and plant a story of my own.

Sally: And if anyone wants you to go on record, deny it. It’ll intrigue them even more.

Chloe: I just really hope this doesn’t backfire.

Sally: This is everything we’ve ever wanted. Your big-picture plan was not just to be a platform for fashion news but a fashion powerhouse, complete with our own designs. So, here we go.

Chloe: [ Chuckles ] Okay. [ Chuckles ] You should really get ready soon. You have to meet adam.

Sally: Mm, it’s a private jet. They’ll wait.

Chloe: [ Chuckles ] I’m gonna go to the airport with you. I want to get one last glimpse of the wedding dress that is going to change our lives.

Nikki: You know who you sound like when you talk like that? Your father.

Victoria: [ Gasps ] My thinking on this is correct. There’s no deviation, no red flags that anyone from the outside can latch onto. We have to keep this contained.

Nikki: Darling, that might be smart for business, but not for you. I know how seriously you take your vows. Now, is this wedding just for show? Are you forcing yourself into a marriage that just shouldn’t happen?

Victoria: I am not forcing myself to do anything.

Nikki: Well, how do you know you’re not gonna be playing right into ashland’s hands?

Victoria: Would you stop it? I know what I’m doing. Ashland is smart enough to not try to keep anything else from me.

Nikki: And after all of this, you really think that the two of you could have a happy marriage?

Victoria: Look, I’ll handle it, alright? My one concern right now is billy.

Nikki: What about him?

Victoria: He seems very determined to derail the ceremony. He’s been leaving me messages, telling me that I’m making a mistake. He says that he has information that he thinks that i should know.

Nikki: Maybe he does.

Victoria: No, he doesn’T. Ashland has told me everything. Nothing that billy is gonna say to me is gonna be news to me. He cannot sway my decision about going through with this wedding. But he can ruin our plans if he finds out the truth and decides that he wants to expose this story to the world.

Gaines: This letter is all the evidence you need. Locke thinks so. He’s been paying me to keep it secret for years.

Billy: How did you get that?

Gaines: From my father’s dossier before he destroyed the evidence of the forgery.

Billy: And when was that?

Gaines: A long time ago.

Billy: And nobody else knew what they were up to?

Gaines: [ Sighs ] No.

Billy: A clerk, a secretary, no one?

Gaines: I sincerely doubt it. My father did all of this on his own. Camilla had no family. There was nobody interested in the will, and nobody to contest it when they filed the codicil.

Billy: What did she plan to do with everything, just bury it alongside her?

Gaines: Well, she had some charities set up, but they had no idea of her plans to bequeath them anything.

Billy: What charities? In a way, locke is stealing from them.

Gaines: She was eccentric. Exotic stuff — homes for wayward cats, exotic plants, things like that.

Billy: Oh, so, he got pissed off for being passed over by felines and flowers?

Gaines: No. Locke is a bastard and a master manipulator. He convinced my father that he had been wronged by camilla. And so they concocted this plan to create this false document so that he could set things right in his mind.

Billy: You seem to have a lot of animosity towards ashland.

Gaines: You’re damn right, I do. I told you, this is personal.

Billy: Yeah, you did. But you haven’t told me why yet. If you’re on medicare, remember,

Gaines: I spent my whole life jumping through hoops, trying to impress my father. He was a workaholic. It wasn’t easy getting his attention. And harder still to impress him. But when this kid showed up with camilla, he took to him right away, singing his praises. “Oh, that ashland is a real go-getter. It made me sick.

Billy: I understand that. So you wanted to do something about it.

Gaines: When ashland inherited all that money, I knew something was wrong. So I decided to do some digging, and I found, under lock and key, my father’s file on camilla rhodes. And there was the original will and the authentic letter explaining to him why he wasn’t gonna receive any inheritance. I made a snap decision. And I took the letter. Shortly thereafter, all the files were destroyed.

Billy: [ Chuckles ] Good timing.

Gaines: I got lucky. And I told my father about it, he was angry. More ashamed than anything. He was adamant that I keep it to myself, because if the story got out, it would destroy him. So I kept it a secret all these years… till he died. I kept reading stories about ashland. I got angrier and angrier. I don’t know, maybe it was, uh, delayed grief for the father i had had stolen from me. Ashland needs to pay.

Billy: But he has been.

Gaines: That money that he’s given me means nothing to him. He built his life and his business on lies, and he pulled my father into that deceit.

Billy: But, jesse, it doesn’t sound like your father was blackmailed in any way. He seemed like a willing participant.

Gaines: My dad was a good man. He played by the rules his entire life until locke came along. He manipulated. Yeah, sure, he got some financial gain. The forged codicil gave him out a payment, locke offered him a lucrative position, so it seemed like a victimless crime. But that crime, it weighed on him, and I am certain that’s what drove him to an early grave. So, yeah. Yeah, it’s personal.

Billy: I don’t know if you’ve heard, but ashland locke could, potentially, be heading to a premature demise himself.

Gaines: Yeah. I know. I almost felt bad for him.

Billy: Almost?

Gaines: Made him seem human. But when I came here to get my final payoff, he was so dismissive and condescending.

Billy: You can’t blame a guy for being a little rude to the person that’s blackmailing him.

Gaines: Ashland locke is a fraud and a master manipulator. Camilla rhodes was right about one thing — he is a survivor. He’ll ruin people to save himself. That’s why I came back here, why I risked crossing victor newman to give you what you need to take locke down. I want my revenge. I want to blow up locke’s life while he is still alive to suffer.

Victor: How are you holding up? I know firsthand how difficult it is when the past catches up with you. It’s not affecting your health, is it?

Ashland: Not at all. I-I-I’m fine. [ Sighs ] The only thing weighing on me is the distress this is causing victoria. I hate that all of this is bringing her pain after she has brought me so much joy. And, hell, she’s given me a reason to live.

Victor: Well, we’ve got to stop the trouble that both billy boy abbott and gaines are causing.

Ashland: Well, that may be, but I’m the one to blame here, victor. The choices that I made in the past came back to haunt me. And even if it was decades ago, and I don’t see myself any longer as the man who made those choices, there it is.

Victor: Well, I respect you for taking responsibility. And I respect you for coming clean with my daughter about your past. That could not have been easy.

Ashland: I just hope it doesn’t mean I will lose victoria.

Nikki: I guess this wedding is going to happen. I hope you’ve changed your mind about letting your brother attend, because abby decided to stay home with the baby, and it would be nice to have some family for support.

Victoria: Well, adam will be there, won’t he?

Nikki: [ Laughing ] Oh, my god, are you hearing yourself? You can’t let him be your only sibling at the wedding. Nicholas was very upset that you rescinded his invitation.

Victoria: I guess he should have thought of that before he dug up dirt on my fiancé.

Nikki: [ Sighs ] I really think you are lashing out at the wrong people. Shouldn’t you be upset with the man who kept secrets from you?

Victoria: Oh, mother, how many secrets has dad kept from you over the years — things that have only come to light because he had no choice and he had to come clean about it?

Nikki: Far too many, and I’m trying to spare you that kind of pain.

Victoria: Look, mom, my point is, is that no marriage is perfect. I have looked at this closely, mother.

[ Sighs ] It’s not like ashland committed some crime against me and my family. What he did happened 40 years ago. There’s no need for us to relive it. It can just end here. And I should have been able to trust nicholas.

Nikki: You can.

Victoria: No, I can’T. He betrayed my confidence. He should have stood by my side, which is exactly what I would have done if the roles were reversed. What nicholas did — it hurt me more than anything.

Nikki: Alright, alright.

[ Sighs ] I don’t want to argue with you. You don’t want to listen to what I have to say anyway. Just answer me this. What do you feel in your heart about ashland?

Victoria: I don’t know.

Adam: You know I love you, right? That’s right. I’m your dad, so I can say it no matter how old you get. I love you, connor newman. How do you like that?

[ Chuckles ] Yeah, I, uh — I’ll bring you back something from italy, okay? Alright? Love you. Good night.

Sally: How’s your son?

Adam: He is more excited about me going to italy than I am. Shouldn’t you be packing for our trip?

Sally: I needed a coffee. What’s your excuse?

Adam: Tying up a loose end before we, uh, leave.

P.I.: I have an update on jesse gaines.

[ Sighs ]

“The young and the restless”

will continue.

Adam: So, you haven’t found gaines, but you think billy has?

P.I.: Security footage caught gaines entering abbott’s apartment building tonight.

Adam: Is billy there?

P.I.: Yes, and they’re still inside, both of them. Want me to stay close?

Adam: No. Um, I’ll take it from here. Good work.

P.I.: You got it.

Sally: What’s with all the mysterious cloak-and-dagger business?

Adam: I, um — I have to take care of something. I’ll meet you at the airport. Just don’t be late for wheels-up.

Sally: Sounds exciting and exotic. If you’re trying to impress me, I have been on private jets before.

Adam: I’m not trying to impress you or anyone. I just want a comfortable, peaceful trip to italy, okay? You remember that I’m taking you as a friendly favor, not a date, right?

Sally: But can’t it at least be the start of a beautiful friendship?

Adam: No.

Sally: Ow. Okay. Need to lighten up. I was teasing you. I know what this trip is about.

Adam: You just can’t help yourself, can you?

Billy: How many other people know about this scam with camilla’s will?

Gaines: As far as I know, you, me, locke, and victor.

Billy: Why would victor pay you? What benefit does he get by squashing the story? I mean, he can’t possibly condone victoria’s wedding after hearing this news, so…

Gaines: Maybe victor newman doesn’t see what locke did as a crime. I’m sure he’s done similar things on his way to the top. The real question is, why are you out to get ashland?

Billy: Victoria is the mother of my children. And she’s a good person. And I’ve caused her enough pain. I don’t want to see her suffer anymore.

Gaines: I don’t buy that you’re being noble.

Billy: I don’t care. You don’t need to understand anything. The only person that needs to know the truth is victoria. And she can make whatever decision she wants.

[ Sighs ] But right now, she is not taking my calls. So I’m going to tuscany early. And you’re coming with me because she is not gonna believe me unless I give her the proof from the horse’s mouth.

Victor: So, how does it look out there?

Nikki: Gorgeous.

Victor: Yeah?

Nikki: An idyllic spot.

Victoria: I think it’s the perfect backdrop for us to exchange our vows.

Ashland: What does that mean?

Victoria: Well, you know, we have a lot to do if we’re gonna pull off the wedding of the year.

Victor: I’m delighted to hear that.

Ashland: Maybe we should take a walk around the grounds.

Nikki: Before you do that, could you take us to our room? The sooner we get settled, the sooner we can all pitch in and help.

Victoria: Sure. Of course I will.

Nikki: Thank you. Still fresh

Chloe: Hi. What’s going on here?

Adam: Uh, I just got a message from the editor of a fashion magazine. Trust me, you’ve heard of her. Um, she just found out that sally is going to tuscany, and newman media is promising to give a scoop, and she wants confirmation.

Sally: Well, I can confirm that I am going there for the wedding, and when victoria wears my dress that I made for her —

Adam: Wait, wait, wait, the whole reason that I’m going to this wedding is to show that I’m committed to playing a role in my family. This doesn’t help. Makes it look like it’s a self-serving business trip, sally.

Chloe: It wasn’t sally. It was me. I leaked the story. I got excited, I told a friend, and you know how fast gossip travels.

Adam: See, that — that was reckless.

Chloe: I — I’m sorry. But it was scoop about fashion, not about dirt.

Adam: But the wedding dress?

Chloe: Sally’s creation.

Sally: Hello.

Adam: What if victoria doesn’t wear the gown?

Sally: She’s gonna love it.

Adam: Look, I’m — I’m gonna give you a ride over there. That’s it. Not gonna get you an audience with victoria. She got enough on her plate, and I’m not exactly her favorite person.

Sally: I know it seems like I’m flirting with disaster here, but I’m not. Okay, I’m just putting myself in the right place at the right time, with your help. So, thank you, both of you, for having faith in me.

Adam: Okay, I have to go. Alright? We’ll discuss it later. But, please, please, no more leaks or gossip. I don’t want anything to take attention away from victoria’s big day.

Sally: [ Sighs ]

[ Door opens ]

Victoria: So, it looks like your bags beat you here.

Victor: I got to tell you, the staff is absolutely first-class.

Victoria: Do you want to rest, and then we can meet for lunch? Nate and elena will be flying in later.

Nikki: Oh, well, maybe they could join us. That would be nice.

Victor: Sweetheart, would you mind giving me some time alone with victoria?

Nikki: Yes, of course. I will make arrangements for lunch?

Victor: Si, my love. So, I understand that ashland told you everything.

Victoria: Yes, he did.

Victor: [ Sighs ] How do you feel about it?

Victoria: Well, obviously, it was a lot to take in.

[ Sighs ] And not just the money from camilla, but I’m assuming that nick told you how he took the name ashland locke.

Victor: Yeah.

Victoria: [ Sighs ]

Victor: I’ve been filled in. And — and never mind nicholas. He’s alright.

Victoria: He had no right to dig up that information himself.

Victor: Sweetheart, forgive him for that. He did that to protect you. I wish you hadn’t rescinded his invitation. I was looking forward to having nicholas and adam and you all together at the same wonderful event.

Victoria: [ Sighs ] Daddy, I cannot let this go so easily. He’s gonna have to earn my forgiveness.

Chloe: You know, I was worried there. I thought that adam was gonna pull the plug on you being his plus-one.

Sally: Thank you.

Chloe: For what?

Sally: Well, for stepping in and taking the blame for the leak. But I have to ask. Why did you cover for me?

Chloe: Well, I would rather him be mad at me than at you. I’m used to it.

Sally: Well, I owe you.

Chloe: Yeah, you do. And don’t worry, I will accept it, but for right now, I just need you to guard this dress with your life on this trip.

Sally: Well, good thing we’re going on a private jet. Could you imagine me trying to shove that thing into an overhead bin of a commercial flight?

Chloe: No, it would have been a disaster.

Sally: I had to use the most delicate, luxurious material to make sure it was worthy of a newman bride.

Chloe: Well, that’s why I’m relieved that you are getting newman-level transportation, ’cause, normally, I would be opposed to someone traveling and spending hours in an enclosed space with adam.

Sally: All the stars are aligning. I’m going to spend the entire trip visualizing victoria strutting down the aisle wearing my design, because I believe in the power of positive thinking.

Chloe: I do love your confidence, but you really should listen to adam, because there is a chance that you’re going to get there and victoria is not going to give you the time of day, and then it will just be a wasted trip.

Sally: I understand.

Chloe: Okay, and I — I know I’ve said this to you before, but please just — please just go easy on — on the flirting. You know, I mean, I just know what adam is like when he has that single-minded look in his eye. You really don’t want to cross him.

Sally: Fine. But I think you have forgotten your can-do spirit, ’cause this is what it looks like when you want something so badly that you will it into existence. Haven’t you ever done that before?

Chloe: I can’t believe I’ve hitched my wagon to someone nuttier than me.

Sally: [ Chuckles ]

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Victoria: Thank you for what you’ve done, for helping to keep the camilla rhodes story quiet. And I — I really, really appreciate your help in protecting newman/locke from any backlash, daddy.

Victor: That is not why i paid off gaines.

Victoria: Well, why did you do it?

Victor: Because I’ve never seen my daughter as happy as you are now with ashland. I know that’s good for the company, but mostly it is good for you. I’m happy for you. And that’s more important than anything.

Victoria: Don’t worry. I have every intention of proceeding with the weeding.

Nikki: I’m not gonna lie to you. After everything I have learned of recently, I have very serious doubts that victoria should go ahead with this wedding.

[ Sighs ] She thinks that it’s the right thing to do, for practical reasons, but she doesn’t want to admit how much she’s hurting. And I predicted all along that getting involved with you would bring her nothing but heartache, and that has proven to be true. Your health, these secrets from your past — all very unfortunate omens.

Ashland: I’m not superstitious.

Nikki: Victoria may think it’s the right thing to do to go ahead with this wedding, but i am appealing to you, ashland.

Ashland: Are you asking me to call things off?

Nikki: Yes. If you truly care about her, give her that gift. Relieve her of this burden.

[ Knock on door ]

Billy: Who is it?

Adam: It’s adam.

Billy: Coming.

[ Doorknob turning ]

[ Sighs ] To what do I owe this unpleasant surprise?

Adam: I’m looking for gaines.

Billy: Who?

Adam: Jesse gaines. Are you really gonna pretend like you don’t know who he is, billy?

Billy: I’m gonna do anything I have to, to get you the hell out of here so I can go pack for tuscany and get a little bit of rest.

Adam: Relax, billy. You can sleep in tomorrow, because you’re not going to tuscany. You’re not getting anywhere near victoria’s wedding.

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[ Sighs ] This never gets old. The coffee? Or this? Mm. Don’t make me choose. In fact, let’s stay home and shut the world out today — all day. What world? It’s just you and me. Excuse me, uh, mr. Corinthos. Someone is at the gate to see you, sir. Hey. Hey. Welcome back. Thank you. It’s been quite the homecoming. Listen, any word on liesl? No, not even a whisper. Seems my mother has disappeared into thin air. I am so sorry, britt. I can’t help but feel responsible. You called my mother and got her involved in a scheme to kill peter, which I’m sure wasn’t a hard sell. Well, at the moment, it felt like it was the only way to protect maxie and james. If that’s all you were doing, I’d be on-board. But we both know that S.O.S. Call was also to protect yourself. Well, I like our new tradition of weekly breakfast check-ins. Me, too. The food in the dining hall is blah, and I’m already tired of takeout.

[ Chuckles ] Well, I’m happy to contribute to your healthy eating habits.

[ Both chuckle ] So, tell me about your classes. Oh. And, oh, tell me how it is working at ava’s gallery without ava. Uh, turns out, ava’s not leaving. Since when? I’m pretty sure she’s staying here and staying married. Trina, you know you can’t drop that kind of bomb on me and play coy.

[ Chuckles ] What happened to ava’s stalker? Thanks to me, the stalker’s been unmasked. Mm. Well, you better be my husband. Oh.He’s a very jealous man. I am your husband, alright. For now and for always. It’s going to be a beautiful day. A beautiful life. I am never letting you go again. And that’s a promise. Greetings. Mr. Corinthos is in the living room. Please come with me.

[ Door closes ] After you. What a pleasant surprise. My goodness, look at you. Uh, carly, uh, this is phyllis caulfield. She’s a — a dear friend of mike’s and mine.

[ Sighs ] Thanks. Does this water have magical properties in it to help me focus? Right? I keep thinking about yesterday, too. I can’t get over the fact that spencer was the stalker. You and trina were so right. I shouldn’t have given you guys so much pushback. Trina was the one who figured it out. How’s she doing? I mean, she was pretty beat up about it. Well, we were up half the night talking about it. She feels awful for setting a trap for spencer. I don’t love it, either, but if we hadn’t, ava and nikolas still would not know the truth. I guess it was worth it. You don’t sound all that convinced. Nikolas has ava back, but spencer’s life just imploded. Did we end up helping that family, or did we just hurt them? Both. Good morning. Where were you? Working out. So early? Did you sleep at all?

[ Sighs ] Uh, no. Every time I close my eyes, I kept replaying the whole train wreck in my head. It never should have happened.

Exactamente. I don’t know what possessed you to confess. Well, my father was in danger. But you had nothing to do with your uncle sonny turning up. No, I didn’T. But you did. Why the hell would you tell my uncle, the alleged mob kingpin, that my father was taking his daughter away?

[ Cellphone beeps ]

[ Sighs ] Huh. Something wrong? It’s an alert placed on spencer’s credit-card account. Apparently, he is holed up at the metro court. How do you feel about that? Well, I’m glad he didn’t spend the night on the street, but given the fact that he robbed us of months together, I can think of better ways of spending our first reunited morning than discussing him. I’ll arrange breakfast.

[ Door closes ] So you’re phyllis. Thank you so much for taking care of my husband while he was injured. It was truly our pleasure. Mike — sonny was a godsend to us in more ways than one. That goes both ways. Mm. Sonny has told me a lot about you. I’m so sorry about your husband. Thank you, mrs. Corinthos. Call me carly. Please.

[ Chuckles ] And had we known you were coming, we could’ve spared you the security check. Mm. Well, it’s a beautiful home. Much different than your room at the tan-O. So, did you, uh, drive in from nixon falls this morning? Yes, I was on the road too early to call. I hope I didn’t intrude. I found some of your belongings, and I thought you might — you might want them. I feel terrible, and if there’s anything I can do to help find aunt liesl, please let me. Well, I’ll — I’ll take the help. Okay. Scott is beside himself. Yeah, I saw him. He told me. And I also got a voicemail from valentin. He and anna have a lead on peter, but he didn’t give me any details. Hey, how are you otherwise? Um, busy. Yeah, throwing myself into work, restructuring the hospital budget, working with my new co-chief of staff, keeping my head above water. And, um, you and jason? What are you talking about? There is no “me and jason.” And that’s because of me. So the young man that I met at the park, that was — spencer. Not victor. And spencer was ava’s stalker? Him and his girlfriend. Which one drenched you with the fake blood? Spencer. Oh, hell, no. Mom, no, no, no, he didn’t mean to. It was just — no, no, when did all this go down? Did this happen last night? Yes. Spencer got kicked out of wyndemere, and his relationship with his father is worse than ever. And it’s my fault. In what universe? I convinced cam and joss to set them up. If I hadn’t known, then may– no, don’t even finish that sentence. You are not responsible, nor are you at fault. This is spencer’s mess. It has nothing to do with you. I just feel bad for him. And I also feel guilty that I wasn’t honest with ava. Why would you feel guilty? Thanks to you, ava knows the truth now, a-and she can stay here with her husband and her little girl. Although, she might want to let that marriage just go ahead and dissolve ’cause clearly the cassadine men are not to be trusted. I’m so sorry for how things turned out. I was only doing it for you. I know. That’s why I defended you, but some of these ideas that you come up with, esme… getting your father back in your life was what you wanted. So I did what I could to make that happen. I guess I’m still learning how to make you happy. You really are the best, and nothing that has happened is your fault. But I will be happier if we just cut out the scheming and do better. Whatever you want. Too bad you can’t count on your so-called friends. What were they thinking? Especially josslyn. Doesn’t that girl have enough to worry about without setting you up and calling you out? Josslyn is a real friend. So is cameron. They’re probably the only real friends that I’ve ever had. Okay, yes, we totally ambushed spencer, but if his behavior hadn’t been so messed up, he’d have nothing to confess. Look, all I’m going to say is that your stepdad is one menacing dude. Mm. Spencer was absolutely terrified for his father. Well, everybody knows not to mess with sonny, especially when it comes to his family, but none of that would have even happened if it wasn’t for esme. I don’t see how she’s to blame for the lie about bora bora. Are you giving esme a pass? Not at all. I’m just saying that they both bear responsibility. Trina said that spencer and esme work as a team. Well, every team I’ve ever been on has had a captain. Makes me wonder if esme’s the one calling the shots.

I mean, what makes you think that esme’s more involved than spencer is saying? Spencer admitted that esme was the one who torched ava’s car, correct? He did at first, but then he walked it back. To protect her. Does that surprise you? You’ve seen the way she hangs on him. No wonder he can’t think straight. This is spencer we’re talking about, okay? He’s no angel.

[ Chuckles ] This is so messed up. And, yes, I know that spencer set it in motion. Everything he did was bad, but… I still want what’s best for him. What if esme is what’s best for spencer? No. She brings out the worst in spencer. Why aren’t you furious? First, they set you up, then they stand by and watch you humiliate yourself. Oh, I humiliated myself? You confessed. You apologized. Right, but you’re forgetting the part where we are actually guilty, esme. Fine. We’re no innocents. But your real friends aren’t, either. First, they lie to your face, and then they set a trap that nearly gets your father killed. And then your father kicks you out of wyndemere while your wicked stepmother gloats. If they expect you to beg forgiveness, they’d better think again. They’re the ones who should be coming to you.

[ Knock on door ] Spencer cassadine? Yes. What’s going on? I’m sorry, but your credit card has been declined for a second night. There are more than enough funds. Run it again.No, there’s no need. This isn’t a fund problem — this is a father problem. We contacted the account holder, mr. Nikolas cassadine, and the card has been canceled. Checkmate. What does this mean? It means we pack. I’ve arranged for breakfast in the dining room. Unless you would rather have it served in the bedroom. You choose. Oh, then the bedroom it is. Oh, hey, what was that call that you were making earlier? Oh, I cut spencer’s access to his bank and credit-card accounts. Wow. Well, I’m — I’m all for tough love, but if you cut him off like that, what will he do? He’s about to figure it out. My son has been given every possible advantage. He’s bright. He’s willful. Let him put that cunning of his to good use and figure out how to support himself. Okay, well, that — that sounds fine in theory, but the timing is terrible. Won’t spencer see this as a punishment? And won’t that further stoke his dangerous resentment? Ava told me to be careful with bad boys, and spencer falls right under that definition, except he’s not all that bad at heart. I think he’s just lost. Mm-mm-mm, says every woman in defense of a dysfunctional relationship with a bad boy. Mom. Trina, I was at the hospital that night when ava’s car was burned, and I sat with her afterwards.

[ Stammers, sighs ] Ava couldn’t stop shaking. And to leave kiki’s I.D. Badge near the car? That’s just cruel.

[ Stammers ] Spencer didn’t do it. I don’t even think it was his idea.

[ Sighs ] You certainly seem determined to let him off the hook. I don’t deny he’s made some seriously messed-up choices. Anyone who asks you to cover for them isn’t really your friend. You remember what maya angelou said. “When someone shows you who they are…” “believe them.” Right. I’m sorry I didn’t tell you about this earlier, mom. There’s just been a lot going on. Right. Even though you’ll always be my baby, you’re a young woman now, and you’re entitled to privacy. But I can proudly say that you’ve always, always had a good head on your shoulders. Aunt liesl was devastated when jason got engaged to carly because she knew how important jason was to you. Yeah, well, that’s old news now. But if I didn’t keep sonny away from port charles… look, you might have hurt a lot of other people, but you did me a favor. Carly will always come first for jason, and I am nobody’s second. Good for you. I hope you don’t mind, but I don’t think I’m going to stay for breakfast. I can’t justify paying carly’s inflated prices for eggs and toast. It’s your call. I’m not offended. Hey, come here. It’s good to see you. And if you hear from your mom, if there’s anything I can do, I want you to call me, okay? Let me know. Will do. Hey, and, uh, watch your back. I have a feeling carly’s not done with you yet. Carly: May I? Yeah, yeah. Go ahead.

[ Chuckles ]

[ Sighs ] Wow. Okay, I saw you in one of these, and I still cannot believe it.

[ Laughing ] How many flannels did you have? Wow. Wow. Mike definitely had a distinct fashion style. Not to mention a fine two-step. Well, that’s high praise coming from the lifelong dance partner of lenny caulfield, the greatest dancer in the world. That man was so light on his feet… it defied gravity.

Lenny sounds like the best of men. Sonny told me that lenny gave him a hard time when he first showed up, but wound up standing up for him and treating him like a brother. I wish I could’ve met him. Lenny was one of a kind. Amen. I’m going to give you two a chance to catch up. I’m sure you have a lot to talk about. No, you don’t have to — you can stay. Well, I-I can’t, actually. I mean, forget about my suggestion to stay home all day. I have tons of paperwork to catch up on…alright. …At the metro court, so enjoy your time together. Phyllis, it was a pleasure meeting you. I hope you come back. You’re always welcome. Thanks for bringing the box by all the way over here. Mm.[ Door closes ] I have a confession. Hm? It’s not the only reason I’m here. I wanted to meet you properly. Sonny corinthos. Phyllis caulfield.

[ Both chuckle ] Oh! [ Chuckles ] Joss and I have this code — sisters before misters. And I feel like I’m breaking it with ava. I mean, she’s my friend, too. I feel really bad about keeping spencer’s secret about being in town all those weeks, but after everything that happened, I feel like it’s too late to say anything. What do you think? Well, the fact that you feel bad, that should tell you something. Especially now that you know the damage that secrets can cause. So what are you going to do? I think… I’m going to skip breakfast. Rain check? Of course, yeah, no, I-I want you to do what you got to do. I’m so proud of you. Thanks, mom. I love you. I love you, too.

[ Giggles ] And same time and place next week, right? I wouldn’t miss it. Okay. Yeah, I can’t stand back and do nothing after the way spencer treated my wife. Well, I appreciate your outrage. I’m a big girl. I can take care of myself, as you well know. I’m aware, but in no way does it excuse spencer for what he did. Spencer has witnessed your plots and schemes his entire life, my darling, and if you want to punish him for learning the behavior that you’ve modeled, please don’t do it on my account.

[ Cellphone chimes ] Ah. Well, um, breakfast and anything else is going to have to wait. I’m about to have a visitor. Got just enough cash for breakfast. After that, we’re broke. Wow, universe, way to kick a guy when he’s down. This is a temporary setback. Things will get better. Your father just needs time to cool off. Maybe joss and cam will cool off, too. One of the most annoying things about my friends is that I actually care what they think. I have an idea, but I need to have this conversation alone. No worries. I trust you. Just, uh, text me if you need backup. You know I win everyone over in the end. You’ve won me over. Britt: Maybe the three of us can convince the board to give us the necessary funding to back that research project. Yeah, okay. I will — I’ll see you soon. Thanks. Bye. Wheeling and dealing? Good. Do I have a deal for you. Look, I don’t know exactly what to make of esme and spencer’s relationship, but so what? Who says we have to understand it? When did you get so wise? Ever since I started dating you.

[ Chuckling ] Oh, my god, you really are wise. That was such a good answer. Mm. Nina: Hi. I imagine I’m the last person that you want to see right now. Good call. Do you have to go back to work? Is your break over? Are you sure? Yeah, definitely. Okay, uh, I’m going to go back to work outside. I just came to get a bite to eat, but, uh, I can leave if you’re uncomfortable. Why would I be uncomfortable? I’m not the one who stole nine months of sonny’s life. I’m not the one who left his family here to grieve, and I’m not the one who’s a total hypocrite.

Well, you’re on the clock. What’s this offer? Room and board with you in exchange for my witticisms. Pass. And esme’s french cooking techniques. Absolutely not. Oh, come on, we’re going to be fun roommates. And esme can cook dinner. I live in a hotel room. You’re chief of staff, and you still live in a hotel room? Demanding job, no pets, no kids, room service. Works for me. Not for you. Sorry. But you’re barely even going to notice us.

[ Scoffs ] You’re at work all day, and esme and i won’t touch the minibar. I promise. What is going on? Why would you leave cushy wyndemere for a rollaway bed in my hotel room? Father and i had a falling out.

[ Sighs ] And you left?

[ Sighs ] He kicked you out? What the hell? Why is nikolas acting all self-righteous after all the crap he’s pulled? Actually, it’s a little complicated. Please tell me you haven’t done anything that will make me have to defend your father. Hey. Trina, what a nice surprise. I’m so glad you’re still here. Does this mean — yep. Thanks to you, my girl, nikolas and I are — are back together and we have a lifetime of mornings ahead of us. Now, what you did was risky, and I don’t condone all the plotting, but you did uncover the truth, and so I’m very grateful. Don’t thank me yet. Mmm. Delicious. Of course it is.

[ Chuckles ] I’ll send you home with — with like a pound.

[ Chuckles ] Thanks.

[ Chuckles ] Who’s this with you? That’s mike, my dad. He, uh — he died a — a year ago. Alzheimer’S. Mm-hmm. He was one of a kind. Him and lenny would’ve hit it off. Hm. I’m so sorry. You certainly have a beautiful family. Mm. They must’ve really missed you. I bet you they’re happy you’re back. Yeah, and so am I. Mm. Carly seems wonderful. Must have been hard on her. Yes, she is, and, yeah, it was. I found some pictures of you and nina. I didn’t include them in the box. I wasn’t sure you’d want them. Thanks for that. I’ve got another confession. Hm? I didn’t just drive here to return that box. I thought you might need someone to talk to, someone who understands. You still looking out for me?

[ Both chuckle ] Lenny would call it putting my nose where it doesn’t belong. He loved when you did that. So do I.

[ Chuckles ] I know you left behind a complicated situation in nixon falls. And the situation here? Is that complicated, too? Cameron?

[ Sighs ] I’m so glad I found you. I need you desperately. Maybe you should rely on a food-delivery app if you have to leave every establishment frequented by people who missed sonny. I’ll take that under consideration, josslyn. I just wanted to tell you how truly sorry I am. Hold on. I have something for you.

Spencer, what were you thinking? I was thinking that I needed to save father from ava. And have him all to yourself?

[ Scoffs ] Is that too much to ask? After three years apart? Three years where I thought he was dead? You say you want to make up for lost time, but what you mean is you want to control who he’s with. And, y-you know, what troubles me the most about this is the lengths that you went to and the lies that you told and the people that you hurt, spencer, including me. I told you nikolas accused me of being the stalker once, and you said nothing. Because he didn’t think that anymore.

[ Scoffs ] But you’re right. You’re right. I’m sorry. It was one of many mistakes. Look, I —

[ Scoffs ] I get making mistakes, and you know how fond I am of you. While I am not so fond of your father. But you need to go to nikolas and make amends. I can’T. My father doesn’t even want to see me right now. Maybe you can rent me and esme a room just one night while we figure out what we’re going to do next or what our next move is going to be. No. No, unh-unh. Not in my hotel. Aunt carly. You terrorized ava by implying a threat to avery. And then you tried to manipulate sonny just as he had gotten back home. That is totally unacceptable, spencer.

[ Sighs ] You’re right. I screwed up. I don’t blame anyone for not wanting me around. Oh, come on. Don’t play the martyr. Try standing on your own two feet instead of asking someone to bail you out. That’s the problem. Someone has been enabling you your entire life. Again, my apologies — to you both. Esme, I’m working right now, so… but you’re the only one who could help me. And help spence. What’s going on with spencer? He’s been… tossed out and cut off. We’re homeless with no money. Okay, first of all, you guys are hardly starving and destitute. Second of all, you kind of deserve what you get. What spencer did was terrible. Maybe I should have done more to rein spence in.

[ Voice breaking ] But he was in so much pain. He just wanted his father back, and now he’s lost him all over again. Things are bad right now, but spencer will bounce back. He always does. Not this time. The day I realized victor was really spencer cassadine was also the day I realized he’d been lying about how long he’d been in port charles. Obviously, spencer needed cover so he could creep around port charles, leaving his nasty little threats. And he convinced you to keep his secret. Well, he told me that he had a troubled relationship with his dad, and that’s why he didn’t approach him right away. And I bought it. Is there anyone in this town he hasn’t deceived? But I helped him by keeping quiet. Trina, spencer betrayed you, too. He lied to you. He manipulated you. He took advantage of your trust. Maybe if I’d come to you sooner, we could’ve figured out spencer was your stalker earlier before your car got torched. Can you forgive me? Trina… there is absolutely nothing to forgive you for. I just wish that I’d had a friend as loyal and as trustworthy as you many years ago. Well, you’ve got me now. I’m just sorry for what you’ve lost. What did I lose? I just remember how excited you were when victor swept into your life, and I hate that spencer has robbed you of that feeling. Ah, perfect timing. Excuse me? If you or your son ever hurt my daughter again, you’re going to regret it. Oh, oh, you need reminding? Um, your deviant stunts at the party at wyndemere? Spencer drenching trina with fake blood, pretending to be, uh, victor, and then convincing her to lie and hide his presence here in port charles so that he could stalk ava. I am so sorry. Last night, spencer admitted that he came home from school early, but I had no idea that he deceived trina in that way. Mr. Cassadine, your son is walking through the world like he can do whatever he wants, and you, as the adult, need to shut it down. I am truly sorry. Next time you see your son, spencer, you let him know if he knows what’s good for him, he’ll stay away from my daughter. Being home has been an adjustment. What’s the deal with the tan-o? I’ve filed a claim with insurance, and the adjusters are still investigating, so… the wait is on. You want to rebuild? I’m not sure. Without lenny, I feel a bit at sea. And it didn’t help that I just took off. No, you needed to get back to your family. Well, I consider you family, so whatever you need, I’m there for you. You don’t owe me a thing. You saved my life. The least I can do is put you up, either here or at the metro court, and I’m not taking “no” for an answer.

[ Chuckles ] I appreciate that. I do have some unfinished business in town. Oh, you didn’t just come here to visit me? I need to go see nina. You know, I’m actually glad I ran into you. Do you recognize this? It’s the journal I gave you as a graduation present. I’d actually stopped writing. I didn’t tell you that at the time ’cause I was being polite. But I started up again after you gave this to me, and I used it to process my feelings. I wrote about sonny’s funeral. I wrote about the nights where I heard my mom quietly sobbing.

[ Voice breaking ] I wrote about the good days, the ones where we still felt like a family, and I wrote about the bad ones, where all any of us could think about was missing sonny. But you didn’t just lie to us. You lied to my father. He went to nixon falls to see you and try to win you back. But instead, he got shot defending you and your friends. And when she came to you and he told you that he thought she saw sonny on that gurney, you lied, and you said that he hadn’T. So you deceived him, too!

[ Scoffs ] It was all here. Updated as of last night. I’ll be keeping my thoughts.

[ Breathing shakily ] But this?

[ Voice breaking ] This gift from you? I never want to see it… or you again.


I need to get back inside. Spence needs you. He just lost his father, and now he’s lost you, too. And… I can’t handle it. I don’t want to come between spence and his real friends. That’s what he calls you and josslyn. You’re his real friends and…

[ Sniffles ] …Spence is mine. I started out really liking victor, but he was just a put-on, a façade. I can’t believe I let spencer play me like that, and I’m never going to trust him again after what he did to you. Well, I’m not encouraging a relationship with spencer. Far from it. And I appreciate your loyalty. But what happened between me and spencer is between me and spencer. You are free to do you. Hm. Father? Spencer hasn’t lost me. I’m still his cousin.

[ Sniffles ] I really dislike what he did to his father, ava, and trina, but I don’t hate him. What about joss? She’s mad. But she’s also the kindest person I know. I’m sure she’ll move past it. You’re such a good guy, cameron. Carly: Breakfast is on the house. I apologize for interrupting your conversation with spencer. It’s okay, carly. I had already turned spencer down. He’s made himself a hell of a mess, and I can’t fix it for him. I just hope he figures things out. He’s a really good kid in spite of everything. Well, technically, he’s an adult. But when I was his age, I didn’t behave like one, either, so… well, even as adults, we don’t always behave as adults. Britt… I know you have a lot going on, and so do I, but I would really like to clear the air between the two of us. You ready for some radical honesty? I’m ready if you are. There are things nina and i still have to say to each other. I don’t know why you even want to talk to her after everything she did. She’s the one who caused you to lose the tan-O. I’ve thought about all of it, all the horrible things she’s done to you and your family, how her lies even endangered my own life, but I also know nina’s heart — all she did for lenny and me and our town, and even for you when you knew yourself as mike. A person would have to be in a lot of pain and confusion to balance all that love and desperation. Lenny always said I had a bleeding heart. Maybe I do, but I can’t write nina off just yet. Can you?

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Fellas, I’m glad you’re having so much fun with grandma olivia. I miss you a lot, pal. Hey, I love you.

[ Chuckles ]

[ Knock on door ] Oh, uh, you know what? I got to go. Okay? Yes, I will. Okay. Bye. Hey. Good morning. Morning. Good morning. Come on in. I was just, uh, saying good morning to rocco. Thank you. Oh, I just did the same thing with danny and scout. Uh, you didn’t tell them what we’re doing over here, did you? What — tell scott that we were looking for her father? No, no, I can’t imagine saying anything to her until I actually see drew with my own two eyes. Which, according to anna, could be very soon. Anna. Ah, hey. You know him? Well, he served us last night. So I have every wsb agent looking for drew, but I wish chloe’s account had been better, more helpful, like maybe more landmarks or just some other details. Well, if she said drew did help her escape probably had himself beaten black and blue. Beaten but not killed. If peter had wanted that to happen, drew would have been dead years ago. So all we got to do is find out where he’s being held. I’m going to go upstairs and check on valentin. Good luck with that. I don’t really think he’s still sleeping off the ouzo at this point. Mm. He’s probably up there passed out, waiting to resurface with a hangover bigger than australia. Yeah. Yeah.

[ Footsteps approaching ] Hello, uncle. Good of you to visit.

[ Door closes ] I’m sorry. I was delayed. I was afraid peter had taken care of you once and for all. He did say he was out to kill us both. Good morning, maxie. You here for medical reasons? Or just you want to ask me to accompany you to another wedding ceremony? Um, neither. I’m going to get bobbie spencer some flowers from the gift shop. Is it her birthday? No, it’s her daughter bj’s birthday. You are buying flowers for bobbie to celebrate her daughter’s birthday? Yes. Mm. I’m bj’s cousin. My dad’s brother, tony, is bj’s dad. When I was little, I was really sick, and I needed a heart transplant or else I would die. There were no hearts available. And then one really horrible day, bj’s school van was hit by a drunk driver, and bj was left brain dead. Tony and bobbie decided to give me bj’s heart. That’s why I’m alive today. Grabbing breakfast before you head to work? Hey. Hey. Better here than at my desk, which is the only place I will be working for the foreseeable future. Oh, poor baby. You know, you could feel sorry for me getting stuck on desk duty while I’m recuperating. Well, maybe your superiors are on to something. Taking it slow never harmed anyone. Ooh. Okay, someday I’m going to love reminding you that you said that.

[ Chuckles ] Why are you here anyway? I’ve seen the breakfast spread at the quartermaines’. This place doesn’t come close. Yeah, I couldn’t sleep last night. I was tossing and turning. I just had to get out of the house early and get distracted. Why? What’s got you so worked up? Well, something happened yesterday that’s got me really bothered.

“Bothered” as in alarmed or “bothered” as in annoyed? Bothered as in bothered, and I need to vent to someone about it before I lose it. Go for it. Maybe I can talk you off the ledge. Wouldn’t be the first time. Hopefully, it doesn’t end with me arresting you, though.

[ Chuckles ] It would be progress. Who’s got your blood boiling this time?

[ Sighs ] That wannabe-quartermaine. Austin gatlin-holt. Austin: Wow. You had kawasaki syndrome so severely that they had to give you a heart transplant? Yeah. Oh, man. Well, I’m sure you’ve told that story a million times. I won’t ask you to tell it again. But I think it’s really cool that you’re celebrating your cousin’s life by bringing her mother flowers. Yeah, bobbie and I have a really special relationship because of that. You’ve had a colorful life, haven’t you?

[ Chuckling ] Yeah.

[ Both laugh ] You’ve been through a lot. Those guards still following you? Uh, yes and no. I don’t have a guard like yuri, brook lynn’s guard, but those pcpd officers, they’re waiting outside. Well, as long as you’re safe, that’s all that matters. Right. As long as peter is still lurking around, they’re going to be my shadow. Good. It’s good you’re taking steps to protect yourself. Seems like I’m not the only one that could use protection. Apparently, you need some from brook lynn. I’ve had a little time to think, and I think you’re trying to manipulate me. I don’t think you’re in any danger from peter at all. I think you want my cooperation for some reason, and you’re using peter as the most expedient way to go about it. Oh, valentin, I’d never do that to you. After all, I’m the only cassadine who ever gave you the time of day when you were a young boy. Were you? I’m sorry. My memories of that island are a little vague. I was 6 when I left that godforsaken place. Well, perhaps you don’t remember me being kind to you, but I was, and I still feel warmly toward you to this day. You feel warmly? That’s why you’ve upgraded my accommodation from third world hellhole prison cell to the slightly more opulent prison cell? Because you care? Look, I’m — I’m keeping you locked up for your own safety. But you don’t trust me. I can’t say I blame you. You’re trying to protect me? Well, tell me something. There’s someone peter hates even more than me, someone he’s definitely going to target. What are you doing to protect anna devane? Ah, I was right, wasn’t I? He’s up there in bed, stinking of booze, smelling of licorice. I’m telling you, ouzo’s bad stuff. Just stop. No, valentin wasn’t in his room. He hasn’t been there all night. Excuse me, sir. Do you remember the man that I was with last night? Did you see him today? My wife went up to clean the room this morning. She said the guest had already gone. Huh. Well. Okay. Listen, something’s not right. No, before we left the U.S., We both made sure that we had international coverage. He would have texted me if he’d gone anywhere. Or maybe valentin isn’t the man you think he is, and when the tough got going, he bailed — on the search for peter and you. No, he didn’t bail. If he’d gone anywhere, he would have left me a message.

[ Sighs ] Be serious, will you? I mean, I’m out there searching for maxie’s baby. In the meantime, you’re here squandering what’s left of your good judgment.

[ Scoffs ] Not on peter. This time it’s on valentin. So you, uh, got news from anna? She left me a voicemail. She found the real nurse that maxie thought she hired, the real chloe jennings. Well, peter didn’t kill her, then? No, she showed up in a U.S. Consulate in crete. She was imprisoned and then managed to escape and then was in a car accident, but here’s the real kicker. Wow, there’s more? She didn’t plan to escape without help. Okay. There was another prisoner with her, but by the time the guards caught up to her and the other prisoner, the other prisoner sacrificed himself so chloe could escape. Okay, I think I know where this story is headed. Yes, of course. The other prisoner was drew. Right. It had to be. Who else would sacrifice themself to save someone else? So, uh, off to crete? Yeah, I, um, contacted the concierge, and they are making our travel plans. We’re just waiting on some details. Cool. Um. Yeah, good. So maybe — maybe we have time to, uh, talk a little bit? Okay. About what? About what you told me last night, um… about where you stand regarding drew.

Look, I know I went, um, a little bit into a deep dive last night examining my relationship, or lack of relationship with drew. I want to be really clear with you. Finding drew is all about scout, not me. And I-I believed you when you told me that last night. And — and…it kind of helped me out a little bit, too, ttle bit, too, because, um… I’ve been doing some thinking about, uh, you know, this, you and me, in terms of, you know, what that means for us, you know, in terms of, um, being together. Don’t — don’t throw another drink in my face.

[ Chuckles ] Come on. You know that was for show. Oh, I know, but I think you liked it a little bit, too.

[ Chuckling ] I definitely didn’t — maybe. “Maybe.” Um. Look, I want to be clear with you. I like you…samantha. I don’t want to be work buddies or just teaming up to find drew. Alright, I’m just going to say it. I, uh… I want to see where this could go. I’m assuming you’re talking about the little scene that brook lynn caused yesterday. Yeah, it was kind of hard not to notice. Brook lynn stormed in and was yelling at you about a variety of things. The lawsuit. And elq. And ned. And the quartermaines in general. And then something about leo I couldn’t quite figure out. Yeah, you’re not wrong. There’s a lot going on. But here’s what i can tell you. When I win my case in court, the quartermaines will have no choice but to accept me as part of the family. Legally, maybe. But I don’t know if they will personally. But, hey, if you win, you’ll get a piece of the elq pie, right? Yeah, maybe, but that’s not what this is about. It’s about my dad, honoring my father. It was really important to him to be recognized by the quartermaines, and that’s going to rustle a few q fathers, most notably brook lynn. I just hope that doesn’t make things awkward for you, since as you two are best friends. What? Brook lynn is not my best friend. I-I wouldn’t even consider her a friend, period. Alright, you do not have to tell me that you have a problem with austin. I witnessed it firsthand when he tried to convince me to go through edward’s papers to find that letter about his will. You know I don’t blame you for that. You had just found out about willow and michael. Your heart was broken. And austin knew that, and he took advantage. He wanted to get what he wanted, and it worked. He’s trying to do the same thing with my dad. How so? He’s trying to distract my father, you know, steal his attention away from elq. I sacrificed so much to get those shares. I did it all for my dad and for the sake of the rest of the family, and austin is trying to ruin all of my hard work. How? How is he doing that? In the worst possible way. By using a child. You have no reason to worry about anna. She’s already replaced you with another sidekick. Who? Her ex-husband, robert scorpio. Peter’s going to target them both. I need to be there to help anna. Mm, I do admire your passion for anna’s safety, especially given your checkered past with her during your spy days. Well, if she brings happiness into your life, then good for you. Listen to me. If anything happens to anna devane while I am locked up here, I will hold you personally responsible. No, if anything happens to anna, peter will be the guilty party, not me. You are throwing peter in my face after I admitted I was wrong, and you forgave me, by the way. Do not equate my mistakes with peter to my friendship with valentin. Oh, I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to bring up the whole peter mess again.

[ Sighs ] But you see, I don’t trust valentin and with good reason. He’s going to hurt you. By the way, how far has it gone between you two? Oh, bloody hell. You are soft on him.

Just stop. That is enough digs about valentin. Our job is to put peter in jail and to get maxie’s baby back. That is our job. Stop getting us off track. Actually, I think it’s your feelings for valentin that are holding you back from doing your job. Excuse me, uh, do you remember me from last night? Yes. Yes, okay. So my friend, did you give him the message after I left? Oh, yes, I definitely gave him your message. So what exactly turned you against peter? Because it wasn’t the downing of drew’s plane. You were involved in that. And I know all about your work with crichton-clark and that you’ve been keeping drew prisoner at helena’s behest. Oh, look, you don’t have to remind me of all the things I’ve done wrong. Right now, I’m trying my best to atone for a lifetime of mistakes. Oh, seems to me like you’re making even more mistakes.

[ Scoffs ] What can I say? I underestimated peter. He has no more use for you or anna or drew cain. The only thing keeping him from killing all three of you is my pretending to help him. So you see, my hands are tied. That’s why I came to you for help. I’m desperate, valentin. I’m begging you. Please. Austin planted this far-fetched idea in my dad’s head that leo could be on the spectrum. You mean like autism? Yes. And the guy has only ever treated leo for a cut on his finger, which is how I know the whole thing’s just a smokescreen, and he’s just trying to distract my father from elq, and it’s working. And worse yet, he’s fighting with olivia again. Olivia doesn’t agree with austin? No, of course not. The guy has barely even examined him, which is why she’s so pissed at my dad for even entertaining austin’s advice. Well, I’m not a fan of austin’s, but when I was living at your house, leo was kind of shy around me. So? What — what does that mean? Leo’s fine. He’s a great kid. So he — he gets hyperfocused sometimes and is generally hyper. What does that prove? Yeah, sometimes he doesn’t talk back to you when you talk to him, but when I don’t feel like talking, I do that, too. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. There are days you actually don’t feel like talking? I mean it. Austin is the bad guy in this situation, okay? He’s — he’s taking advantage of my father’s love for his stepson, and it’s destroying his marriage to olivia. And then austin’s just going to ride off into the sunset with my great-grandfather’s legacy. Do you really think that he would purposefully misdiagnose a little boy? He took advantage of you when you could barely walk and your marriage was falling apart. Uh, true. And I will always be suspicious of him because of that, but —

[ Scoffs ] Alright, what — what is he suggesting? Some crazy medication? No. He wants my dad and olivia to take leo to see a specialist. That’s all? That’s enough. It’s causing all this infighting and chaos when we should all be sticking together against austin. Okay, brook lynn, if this was bailey, your own daughter we’re talking about, wouldn’t you want her to see a specialist? Just to be safe?

[ Sighs ] I’m so confused. You and brook lynn aren’t friends? I — I see the two of you together all the time. Saw you at the quartermaines’, the metro court, here at the hospital, usually with bailey, and you work together, right? Yes, we do work together at deception, which would make us work associates. A-and then I was thrown in the same lamaze class as her,

I could see how,to a newcomer, it might look like brook lynn and I are friends, but she is not my best friend. I-I don’t even consider her a friend at all, as a matter of fact. Okay, okay, it’s fine. It’s no skin off my nose. You want to share with me why not? Because she’s a troublemaker. She tried to seduce dante falconeri when he was involved with my real best friend, lulu. I — brook lynn set it up so that lulu would walk in on them in a compromising situation. How compromising? Look, she really hurt my friend lulu.

[ Sighs ] You probably don’t know about her. She’s in a coma in a treatment facility. Oh. I’m sorry to hear that. So did brook lynn succeed in breaking up dante and lulu? No. Nothing could break up dante and lulu. Except maybe a-a bomb. Oh, you want to see where things can go between us? I do. I hope you feel that way, too. I mean, I-it took us a while to get to the point where we could admit that we wanted to explore if there was anything more between us. And rightly so. Like you divorcing jason, and — and me and…lulu. I think we’re there now, right? I-I mean, I am.

[ Chuckling ] I think you are, too. Yeah, I — I am. Actually, I think it’s about time that I asked you out on a real date. That’s — that’s what we call it, right? Exactly. Except you didn’t answer my question. Wait, which is…?

[ Chuckles ] A real date. Are you interested?

So, my friend, when he left here…mm. …Did he leave on his own or was someone forcing him?

[ Chuckles ] Forcing him? No. Your friend left on his own not long after you left. Oh, that’s impossible. No, no, no. When I put him in his room, he was out cold. There is no way that he left this bar on his own. There’s no way. You don’t have to believe me. I’m only telling you what I saw. And maybe your friend wasn’t as — as drunk as you think. Or maybe he just sobered up quickly. All I know is that when I went outside to load up my car, he was on the corner, waiting. A fancy sports car pulled up, and your friend got in and it took off. That’s all I know. See? I’ve been telling you. You cannot trust valentin. Tell me what happened to my friend. You’re lying. Leave me alone! No.

[ Grunts ] Cassadine tattoo. Do you work for them?

[ Sighs ] Yo u’re making thisreally awkward, like we’re in junior high. Um, I don’t know how to make this more clear, but, yes, I am interested in you, dante. Very, very interested. That’s good, ’cause it’s been a while since I’ve, uh, asked a woman out on a date.

[ Chuckles ] But I wanted you to know that I want to take this slowly. Okay. Do you want to take things slowly because of lulu? No, I blew that when I left town to try and get my head on straight, but that is something I had to do, and I don’t regret it, but before I left, I was adamant about her not waiting for me, and she didn’T. She fell in love with dustin, and I don’t know if you know this, but the night of the floating rib explosion, he proposed to her, so… that was over. It took me a while to accept it. I mean, I’m praying for her recovery, and — and I’ll always care for her, but… we have rocco together. But that’s — that’s where that ends. Okay.

[ Stammers ] That all makes sense to me, um, but if that’s the case, why do you want to take things slowly between us? Maxie: It’s true. When the floating rib was bombed, dante and lulu were broken up, but it’s only because dante left town. Okay. But if they were the perfect couple, why did dante leave town without her? Because dante had ptsd, and he wasn’t sure if he was capable of hurting someone. Oh. So he left town, and he told lulu to move on. That’s when she fell in love with this really great teacher named dustin. Uh-huh. But when dante came back in town, lulu confided in me that she was still in love with dante. Oh. And then the bomb went off at the floating rib, and now lulu’s in a coma. I was never sure what I should do with that secret. Right. So circling back to brook lynn…

[ Both chuckle ] …She tried her best to break up dante and lulu, but she did not succeed, and you still have not forgiven her. Right. How long’s it been? I don’t know, like 10 or 11 years. Seems like an awfully long time to hold a grudge. I mean, particularly because life seems to be throwing the two of you together a lot. And from an outsider’s point of view, brook lynn’s always very generous with you, allowing you to spend time with bailey because she knows you’re missing your louise. Your point being? Maybe it’s time to reassess things. Okay, so… right before you so kindly asked me to accompany you to jason and carly’s wedding, it seemed to me that you and brook lynn were enjoying a really lovely moment. The quartermaine ways die hard, a little backstabbing here, a little manipulation there, nothing too serious. At least that’s what we tell ourselves before things go sideways. Look, I’m really trying to do better. It’s hard to change old patterns of behavior. Yeah. But I do appreciate you trying. Oh, my god. Are brook lynn and i friends? And not just casual friends but really good friends? Have we really come that far? If I had the tiniest inkling that anything might be wrong with bailey, I would get her checked out immediately. It is my duty to keep her safe and healthy. Even if austin suggested it? Or would you just assume he was lying to you? The two are not remotely the same. Bailey is a teeny, tiny baby. Leo’s already in school. He can speak up for himself, and austin is talking about his — his mind and his behaviors. I mean, if leo found out that he had to see a specialist, that could really mess with his head, and austin just made it up out of thin air. Are you sure about that? Brook lynn, I have heard you go on and on about how much you love bailey and about how much she’s changed you. Maybe part of that change is taking a more objective look at austin’s concern for leo, and I’m not saying you should scare him and tell him he needs to see a specialist. Make it seem normal. Look, just because austin took advantage of me, it doesn’t mean that he’s all bad. Talk to him. I did that already. Yesterday. Yeah, I did most of the talking. And by “talking,” I mean yelling.

[ Clears throat ] Did you throw anything at him? I should’ve. Showed a little restraint. Well, then use that restraint and engage him in a conversation — calmly. It’s not like austin can talk to me about leo’s case anyway. You know, all those medical privacy laws. Yeah, but you can still see where he’s coming from. And it could be good for leo. Maybe it’ll help broker peace between your dad and olivia. Wow, you really opened my eyes and made some good points. Thank you. I’ll tell you something else. I once heard brook lynn say that you were very brave — the bravest person she knows. For what it’s worth, maxie… you’re the bravest person I know.

Maxie, you okay? Yeah. Yeah, uh, I was just thinking about peter. He still worries me. Yeah, for good reason. For what it’s worth, I share brook lynn’s assessment of you. I think you’re incredibly brave. When did you hear brook lynn say that about me? I-I’m not sure about the where or the when. I don’t know. It’s a very specific memory, though, right? So that’s a little weird. Yeah, I-I don’t know why it’s in my head. It’s just that, um, brook lynn’s not really known for giving me compliments. So I don’t know. Maybe you dreamt it. Maybe. But concerning my waking dream where I am accepted by the quartermaines and get elq shares, how are you going to manage that? I don’t have anything to do with elq. Alright, but we just established that you and brook lynn are good friends. Brook lynn and i don’t get along so well. So is that going to affect how you see me? I can disagree with brook lynn’s opinion of you and still be friends with her and you. So we’re friends? That’s cool. Okay, I’ll say this. When I saw you with leo, I didn’t see someone who was trying to take advantage. I just saw a really caring doctor. Thank you. Hopefully, some other people can come around to your line of thinking.

[ Clears throat ] Brook lynn. Maxie. Should I take cover? No. I actually want to talk to you — calmly and alone. Okay. Do you know what’s going on with that? I tried talking brook lynn out of her hostility toward austin. Hopefully, it worked.

[ Scoffs ] So, um… I just wanted to apologize for jumping on you yesterday about leo. I should’ve never assumed that you were working an angle or trying to weasel your way into our family. Okay. But you have to understand something, okay? Leo and I might not be blood-related, but I love that kid, and if he needs help, I want him to get it. That’s really important to me, way more important than elq, that’s for sure. Mm-hmm. My dad mentioned that you think that leo might be on the autism spectrum. I never said that. Well, whatever you said made him want to google it, so you’re obviously concerned. So tell me, what do you think is going on with leo? Sam, I don’t want you to think that I’m getting into something with you as a way to get over my feelings with lulu. I’ll always have a place in my heart for her, and that’s it. I want what we have… to be about you and me and only you and me. That’s good, ’cause I — I mean, I — I feel the same way. That’s good. Then we’ll, uh, take things slowly. Yeah. I don’t — I don’t mind taking things slow. I mean, as long as we’re… moving forward. I am sorry I had to take these extreme measures, but I do hope that one day you’ll come to trust me. Why should I trust you? Oh, and you have every reason not to, I know, but there is one good, very important reason that I can hope that one day you’ll put your faith in me. What would that be? There’s no connection between you and me. We share the same last name. That’s it. There’s no blood between us. I’m the product of a random affair. I once believed my mother, helena, hated me because that was an affair with mikkos, but I was wrong. I’m not related to mikkos. I’m not even an authentic cassadine. Oh, you’re so wrong. Maybe you were kind to me as a child, but why should i trust you now? Oh, valentin, it’s right here in front of your face. What is?

[ Sighs ] I’m the man who had an affair with helena. You’re my son.

[ Grunts ] I don’t have to answer your questions! Actually, you do. We saw the tattoo. Are you a member of the cassadines? No, I am not a family member. So do you work for them? Do you gather information for them? Were you spying on us? Is that what you did? You spiked valentin’s drink, didn’t you? And then you took him somewhere when I went to the consulate. Is that what happened? Go on. Tell us the truth. And maybe, just maybe we’ll let you walk out of here. Robert! Move! Get! Go!

[ Mouths word ]

Firstly, I am not leo’s doctor. Secondly, I can’t diagnose the kid. I’m not a pediatric neurologist. Okay, but you think he does need to see a specialist, don’t you? Why do you think that? Look, this issue has been really divisive for my dad and olivia. Maybe if you tell me a little bit more, give me some information, tell me some of leo’s symptoms, I could talk to olivia, you know, get everybody on the same page. Do you really think that leo could be autistic? Yes. I do. I think leo could be on the spectrum. Brook lynn’s going to do what she thinks is best. That’s just the way she is. And that’s a good thing, in my book. Brook lynn has her fair share of detractors, but it’s nice to see you being so supportive of her. I wasn’t always the biggest fan, but austin made me realize that something has changed. And if you’d told me that five years ago, I never would believe it, but somehow, some way brook lynn and I have become really close friends.

[ Chuckles ] Even if austin did say something kind of troubling. Oh, yeah? Like what? Never mind. It’s nothing. Are you sure? It’s just, one of the things I was holding against brook lynn was how she tried to seduce dante when he was with lulu. Ooh, that doesn’t sound like the brook lynn I know at all. How did it play out? Uh, it — it didn’T. Dante and lulu are a love for the ages. Okay. Mm. That… that was pretty damn good. Yeah, I’d say so, yeah.

[ Clears throat ] That’s a good thing, right? Yeah, it’s — it’s a good thing.

[ Chuckles ] Mm-hmm. Let’s, uh, finish what we started, then, huh? I mean, uh, crete. We got to go to crete, you know, find… scout’s dad.

[ Clears throat ] Scout’s dad, yeah. And then we can make this about us… mm-hmm. …Because I think it’s a good idea. I d– I do, too. It’s a really good idea. Okay. Alright.

[ Clears throat ] Dante. Yeah? Mm-hmm?

[ Sighs ] Thank you. My pleasure, partner. You’re my long-lost father, are you? Am I supposed to believe that? Oh, come on, valentin. You know as well as I do we cassadines aren’t known for our kindness and caring. If I helped you whenever I could, it has to have been for a good reason. You help me? Sorry, I missed that. Wha– you don’t really think a man with the last name cassadine could just walk into the wsb?

[ Scoffs ] You really think you got that job on your own? I’ve done everything I can to support you over the years, my son, but sometimes I haven’t succeeded. If you want to form an alliance with me, that’s fine. But don’t insult my intelligence with sentimental drivel. I hope one day we’ll be able to… continue this discussion and try to find a way forward. But right now, the most pressing matter is stopping peter. You okay? Yeah. You? You mind telling me what just happened? Peter must’ve sent someone. Huh. Nice to know someone else wants to kill us.

[ Sighs ]

[ Breathing heavily ]

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Gabi: Did you kill a guy named jed zanetti?

Jake: Where is this coming from?

Gabi: From philip, who, by the way, just fired me.

Jake: What?

Gabi: Yeah, for spying on him, and now, he’s trying to get me to give up gabi chic and threatening to send you to prison for murder. But that cannot happen, unless all of this is true, so I am gonna ask you again, jake. Did you kill this guy jed back in philly?

Jake: Not here. Not in public. Let’s talk at home.

Gabi: Fine. Be lucky if we run into that bitch ava.

Jake: You mean she’s behind this?

Gabi: Where else would philip have gotten this information?

Brady: I value our friendship. Always have. And I wouldn’t want to do anything to jeopardize it, so… I accept that you have chosen philip, and I hope it works out, chloe. I hope that you’re happy together.

Chloe: Thank you, brady. That means a lot to me.

[Dramatic music]


[Static crackling]

[Demonic growling]

Devil voice: We certainly took care of that old geezer, didn’t we, marlena?

Male announcer: Like sands through the hourglass, so are the “days of our lives.”

[Soft orchestration]


Devil voice: It’s laughable how easy it was for the two of us to dispense with that old fool. Just look at what you and I can accomplish together, marlena, when you let me in. I let you cast me out, but it’s only a matter of time before you and I are one again.

Marlena: No.

Devil voice: You won’t let me back in right now? Let me in, marlena. It’s so much simpler not to fight it.

Marlena: No!

John: Doc, what’s wrong? What’s going on in here?

Brady: I hope philip appreciates how amazing you are.

Chloe: Well, thank you, and I don’t think philip appreciating me is the problem. I kind of feel like he appreciates me a little too much.

Brady: Think you’re right about that. I just–I hope he gets past all the jealousy stuff.

Chloe: Yeah, I think he finally has. I think he’s over it, and you know, buying this tree and us planting it together is a sign of our new beginning. You know, a sign that we are committed to each other.

Brady: Well, I wish you luck. You deserve only the best, chloe.

Chloe: You too.

Brady: I’m gonna go get my girl. I’ll take you home, okay?

Chloe: Okay.

[Tense music]


Philip: I know I can’t erase the mistakes of the past, but I’m hoping that it can be the start of a new, better beginning for us. Serena: It’s my 3:10

Maggie: I couldn’t believe it when I got back this morning and I heard the news.

Julie: Well, darling, you have had heartbreak of your own with summer. Again, I am so very sorry.

Maggie: Thank you. At least I was there to take care of her until the end.

Julie: I’m sure it meant the world to her, maggie.

Maggie: So when did all this trouble with doug start?

Julie: Oh, a few weeks ago. It’s all happened so fast. I mean, doug was himself. He was telling stories always, you know, about the people in our lives. And sometimes I remember it, and sometimes I didn’T. And then one afternoon, at our restaurant, while we’re setting up for the dinner crowd, he locked me in the walk-in freezer.

Maggie: [Scoffs] Well, that had to have been an accident.

Julie: I thought it was, at first. He told marlena it wasn’t, and then he began to confuse names, and he began to forget people. And then the inappropriate behavior.

Maggie: Oh, I can’t imagine.

Julie: It’s been awful.

Maggie: Yeah.

Julie: Went to the hospital for tests.

Maggie: Mm-hmm.

Julie: Once he’s there, he became even more confused and very agitated. And that’s when they tell me he hit me over the head with a tray.

Maggie: Dear god. You must have been so traumatized.

Julie: Well, I don’t actually remember it.

Maggie: Oh.

Julie: But marlena was in the room, and she told me what happened.

Marlena: The tablet…

John: Is it this article that’s got you so upset?

Marlena: The article.

John: About doug?

Marlena: Yes, I saw the article, and that upset me.

John: Of course it did, sweetheart. I mean, you were right there when he assaulted julie, and you had to make the painful judgment to commit him to bayview.

Marlena: I feel awful about that. About all of it.

John: Well, you know, unfortunately, doug’s become a danger to himself and others. And you know doug. He would never forgive himself if he ever really hurt julie or anybody else, so, honey, you only did what you had to do, in order to not only protect doug, but everyone that he loves.

Gabi: Where is that she-devil?

Jake: Doesn’t seem like she’s home.

Gabi: Lucky her.

Jake: I don’t get it. I was just talking to her, and she was acting all sweet, like this perfect little angel, saying all she wanted to do was make peace with you and move on.

Gabi: Well, that’s what she does, like when she acts all innocent in front of rafe.

Jake: Yeah, and the whole time, she was plotting with philip to take us both down.

Gabi: Ava vitali is a lot of things, but innocent is not one of them. I should have known when I smelled that aftershave the other day. Of course it was philip’S.

Jake: She blackmailed him. He almost died because of her.

Gabi: Yeah, but now, they have a mutual enemy, so of course mafia princess ava gives him the dirt on you.

Jake: What’d phil say?

Gabi: Claims that there’s an eyewitness against you.

Jake: Give you a name?

Gabi: According to the file, some guy named carmine supposedly saw you commit the murder.

Jake: [Scoffs] Carmine merlino?

Gabi: So it is true? This is the sound of an asthma attack…

Ciara: [Sighs] Whatever comes from your talk with marlena, we will deal with it. But ignoring the discussion isn’t gonna make your problem go away, ben.

Ben: You’re right. Marlena does always help.



[Cell phone beeps]

[Line trills]

[Cell phone rings]

[Cell phone beeps]

Marlena: Hello, ben. Is everything all right?

Ben: Well, actually, I was hoping to maybe schedule an appointment to see you. I’m just in the process of working my way through some feelings right now.

Marlena: Okay. How about right now?

Ben: Are you sure?

Marlena: I’m always here for you. Why don’t we meet at my office?

Ben: Okay, great. Yeah. Thank you. See you soon.

[Cell phone beeps] She can see me right now.

Ciara: That’s great.

Ben: Yeah.

Ciara: Do you want me to come with you?

Ben: You know what, baby? Thank you, but I think I have to figure this out on my own. Dr. Evans somehow always finds a way to help me see things a little bit more clearly.

Ciara: Call me as soon as you’re done, okay?

Ben: I will.

Ciara: I love you.

Ben: I love you.


Ciara: Yeah.

Ben: Mm.

Ciara: Bye.


[Cell phone rings]

[Cell phone beeps] Hello? Hey, shawn. What’s up? Wait, what? What happened to grandpa doug?

Julie: I was at a loss. I did not know how to deal with what was happening to doug, and then marlena recommended he be committed to bayview. They talked me into signing the papers, and they took him away.

Maggie: Oh, julie, that had to be so painful for you.

Julie: Pretty much the hardest thing I ever did in my life.

Maggie: Yeah.

Julie: ‘Cause as he’s going away, he looked back at me with such desperation and such fear. And I realized, what if it’s me? What if it’s me that he needs, and I’m turning him over to strangers?

Maggie: Oh, honey.

John: Come on, doc. What are you doing?

Marlena: I have an appointment with ben.

John: Whoa, whoa, whoa. But now? Come on.

Marlena: He needs me. Look, I couldn’t–I couldn’t do anything for poor doug, and now, maybe I can help ben.

John: Okay. I suppose you know what’s best.

Marlena: I do. I won’t be long.

John: Be careful.

Marlena: Yeah.

Gabi: I asked you the other day if you killed anybody, and you didn’t give me an answer. Is that because–

Jake: I didn’t kill jed zanetti.

Gabi: I knew it, and I swear I told philip. I told him that you were innocent.

Jake: Far from innocent, gabi.

Gabi: What?

Jake: [Sighs] It’s a lot more complicated than that.

Gabi: Jake, what do you mean, “complicated”? Either you killed that man, or you didn’T.

Jake: I shouldn’t even be talking about this. It’s not good for either of us.

Gabi: I need to know what happened, jake. All of it. I need to know exactly what we are dealing with here, so that we can figure out a way to fight philip.

Philip: My father doesn’t pay you to ask questions, henderson. Just have the gardener bring me a saw!

[Cell phone beeps] Oh, this one’s gonna be a lot easier to cut down.

Chloe: Hey, you’re home from work early.

Philip: So are you. What a nice coincidence.

Chloe: Yeah, you look like you were headed out.

Philip: I was.

Chloe: Okay. Where are you going?

Philip: I was just gonna take a drive down to the river to water our tree. You want to come? Don’t settle. Start your day with secret.

Jake: Never even wanted to think about this again.

Gabi: Hey, I can see how hard this is for you, but whatever it is, you already know that I love you.

Jake: So like I said before, the vitalis, we would make arrangements with the local businesses, right?

Gabi: Yeah, yeah, you offered them protection.

Jake: Yeah, and it was my job to enforce those arrangements. To apply pressure if there was any pushback. And there hardly ever was, but this one time… went too far. Remember the guy we were just talking about?

Gabi: Carmine merlino. The witness?

Jake: Yeah. No, no, no. Carmine was not a witness. Carmine and I worked together, and I would go out and collect the pizzo.

Gabi: Pizzo?

Jake: Yeah, yeah, that’s the protection money we collected from the local businesses, and there was this local bar owner, jed zanetti.

[Sighs] Crap. He was behind on his payments, and so the boss–our boss– ordered us to scare him. A little bit.

Gabi: What did you do?

Jake: Got in his face. Roughed him up a little bit. Carmine wouldn’t stop. Before I knew it, jed was coughing up blood.

Gabi: Oh, god.

Jake: Yeah. I tried. I tried to pull him off him, but he wouldn’t stop. It was too late. It’s too damn late.

Gabi: Jed died.

Jake: [Sighs] Right in front of me.

Gabi: Jake.

Jake: What?

Gabi: Philip says that carmine is willing to testify you were the man that beat him to death.

Jake: Okay, gabi, I didn’t do it, okay? I was there, but I tried to stop it.

Gabi: I believe you. I believe you, jake. It must have been awful.

Jake: Worst day of my life.

Philip: Why does it seem like you don’t want to go with me to our tree? Is there something I should know?

Chloe: No. Of course not. I would love to go with you. It would be nice to spend some time there.

Philip: Couldn’t agree more. And I don’t have to tell you, if you don’t nurture these things, they can wither and die.

Chloe: We won’t let that happen.

Philip: Of course, you can always overwater a tree too.

Chloe: Overwater?

Philip: Yeah, if you’re not careful, you can drown the roots. Kill the tree. Do you think that’s something we need to worry about?

Chloe: Philip–

Philip: Let me save you the trouble of lying. I saw you at our tree in brady’s arms.

Brady: Rachel’s in her room designing scary faces for us to carve.

John: Well, I hope it doesn’t give her nightmares. Enough of those going around these days.

Brady: How is everything? How’s marlena feeling?

John: Well, better, she says. She went to work.

Brady: All right. That’s good, right?

John: Yeah. I suppose. Still pretty upset about doug though.

Brady: Yeah I heard about that. Dad, did doug really attack julie?

John: Yeah, it looks that way. Although he keeps denying it. Says someone else did.

Brady: Who?

John: Doug says that marlena was the one who assaulted julie.

Ben: Thank you for seeing me on such short notice.

Marlena: Of course. I’m glad to see you. Always happy to help.

Ben: Means a lot to me.

Marlena: Do you mind if i record the session?

Ben: No, no.

[Recorder beeps]

[Static crackles]

[Demonic growling]

Devil voice: Dear marlena, did you really need to play this tape? I’m so hurt that you’ve already forgotten our little reunion.

Ben: Dr. Evans? Is something wrong?

Ciara: I just heard about grandpa doug. Hey. Are you all right? Stupid question. How could you be?

Julie: Well, I’m very glad to see you, ciara. And maggie’s back. Isn’t that wonderful?

Ciara: Yes. Oh, it is. Welcome home! So good to see you.

Maggie: Thank you, sweetheart, thank you.

Ciara: Does mom know?

Julie: I spoke with her, and of course, she immediately wanted to come rushing back. And I told her there was no point, because her father is not allowed visitors.

Ciara: We can’t see him?

Julie: He has been declared a danger to himself and to others. He is in isolation, until he is further evaluated.

Maggie: That’ll change soon.

Julie: I hope so.

Ciara: I just–I really can’t believe that grandpa doug would try to hurt you.

Julie: He wouldn’t, and he didn’T.

Maggie: What are you saying, julie?

Julie: I’m saying that the person that hit me over the head with a tray is not my doug. The airport can be a real challenge for new homeowners

Ciara: Who else could have hit you with that tray?

Maggie: I mean, you said the only one in his room was marlena.

Julie: That’s right.

Ciara: You don’t think that marlena–

Julie: No! No. Of course I don’T. What I meant was, the person who wanted to hurt me could not possibly have been doug.

Maggie: Oh, honey. You’re right. You’re right about that.

Julie: I’ve loved him so long. Most of my life, and he has such a magnificent heart, and I didn’t want to believe that he had dementia. But now it’s becoming clear that my darling is… is losing touch with reality.

Maggie: Well, that may be so, but julie, the one thing that he’ll never lose is you. That’s not gonna happen, and you’ve gotta try to hold onto that, okay?

Julie: I will. I will.

Maggie: Okay. Okay. All right. Well, then I’m gonna go and let the two of you talk. I promise you I’ll light a candle for doug this sunday at church.

Julie: He would appreciate it.

Maggie: And if you need me, you call me, anytime.

Julie: Mm-hmm.

Maggie: Okay?

Julie: I will.

Maggie: Day or night.

Julie: Thank you, maggie.

Maggie: Okay.

Julie: Baby.


Ben: Dr. Evans?

Marlena: Hmm? Oh, I’m fine, ben.

Ben: You seem distracted.

Marlena: No. Not at all.

Ben: Okay.

Marlena: Why don’t you tell me what’s on your mind?

Ben: Okay, well, ciara and I, we just got back from our honeymoon, and we have been having a talk about having a baby.

Marlena: Wow. That’s a big step.

Ben: Yeah. Yeah, it is a big step. And given all the horrible things that I have done in my past, I’m worried it might be a big mistake. I’m already responsible for enough pain.

Gabi: So you may not believe me, but I understand how you feel.

Jake: Gabi, you couldn’t possibly understand.

Gabi: Of course. Of course I could understand. The exact same thing happened to me.

Jake: What do you mean?

Gabi: Well, a long time ago, I was married to this guy named mick. He’s julie’s cousin. And after we split, he tried to rape me, so I hit him over the head with a rock. Kate and sami convinced me to cover it up. They helped me dump his body in the river, only he wasn’t dead. He came back.

Jake: Came back?

Gabi: Yeah, and he wouldn’t stop trying to hurt me. So I shot him, and this time, he did not come back.

Jake: Gabi, I’m so sorry.

Gabi: When someone is that obsessed with trying to control you, they will destroy your life if you let them.

Philip: I mean, what happened after I left? Did you and brady have sex on the fresh ground right in front of the tree that we planted?

Chloe: Oh, my god. Do you hear yourself? No. Rachel was with us.

Philip: I didn’t see rachel.

Chloe: Brady asked me to join them at the pumpkin patch.

Philip: Oh, like a nice, sweet family thing, huh?

Chloe: Will you let me talk, please? I’m the one who asked to stop at our tree to water it after the pumpkin patch. When we got there, rachel asked me what our story was. How you and I fell in love. It was after that that brady finally realized what I’ve been talking about all along.

Philip: Which is what?

Chloe: That I’m with you, and that I’m not interested in being with him.

Philip: And he just suddenly accepted that?

Chloe: Yes. He said he would back off and let us be together.

Philip: I don’t believe that.

Chloe: Oh, my god, but it’s the truth. And he agreed to it because he thought you’d gotten over your crazy jealousy. And I can see now that this dangerous obsession of yours has gotten worse. We’re for those who love to discover.

Gabi: This is not your fault, jake. Philip says he’s gonna use carmine’s story to send you to prison, but it’s his word against yours.

Jake: Okay, well, sure, carmine’s a lowlife, but gabi, I got a rap sheet, okay? It’s not like it’s gonna be easy–I can sit there and convince some judge or jury that I’m a choirboy.

Gabi: You think that they could convict you after all these years?

Jake: Yeah, worst-case scenario, I take the fall for a murder I didn’t commit.

Gabi: And best?

Jake: Guilty for being an accessory after the fact. All right, so… what’s phil want you to do?

Gabi: He wants me to choose between my company and you.

Jake: Hmm.

Gabi: But I’ve already made my decision. There is no way in hell that I am losing you.

Philip: What was I supposed to do when I saw you and brady together?

Chloe: How about ask me? How about giving me the benefit of the doubt for once?

Philip: I trust you. I just–

Chloe: “Don’t trust brady.” Blah, blah. I know. I’ve heard that a million times. I thought that you were fine with the fact that brady and i are friends and we work together.

Philip: I am.

Chloe: Then what the hell was that?

Philip: I mean, come on, chloe. I didn’t find you at basic black at a marketing meeting.

Chloe: Yeah, no, you were spying on me at the tree. Our tree! That’s supposed to symbolize the hope for our future!

Philip: Am I supposed to think that you in brady’s arms was just innocent?

Chloe: Yes, I expect you not to be a jealous ass!

Maggie: What is going on here?

Ciara: I do know what it’s like to look at someone you love and not know what’s going on in their brain. To be afraid that they might hurt you.

Julie: Oh, darling. You and ben, that’s different.

Ciara: I know. I know it is. But I also know how lucky of a man grandfather is to have someone like you fighting for them.

Julie: Well, you know, you marry a man for better or for worse.

[Both laugh] And in nearly 50 years of marriage, I can say that the betters always outweigh the worse.

Ciara: Well, you are both so lucky then.

Julie: I thank god for it all the time. Yep. Doug and I hit the lottery every day of our lives.

Ciara: And I know there will be better days to come.

Julie: Thank you for saying that, darling. Now, you tell me about you and ben.

Ciara: Well, what about me and ben? I mean we are finally together again. We are so happy.

Julie: And you’re back from your honeymoon. So what’s next?

Marlena: Do you want to have children with ciara?

Ben: I love her more than anything in this world, and the idea of starting a family with her is everything I could possibly hope for. But I have battled my demons my entire life. My father is troubled. My sister jordan was, too, and I know tripp is just a medical student, but he also confirmed that my condition could be hereditary.

Marlena: He’s right. It could be. Have you discussed this with ciara?

Ben: Yeah, and she’s willing to deal with whatever comes of it, and–

Marlena: You’re not?

Ben: I was really getting myself there, but then I had this dream, and it just shook me.

Marlena: Tell me about the dream.

Ben: It was in the future, and ciara and I had this young son. And he…


Marlena: Go on.

Ben: Our son, he had one of my neckties, and he used it to hurt somebody.

Marlena: I understand how disturbing that dream must have been.

Ben: I’ve done some evil things in my life. And I have learned to accept it in order to try to get better. And I try every day to try to make up for what I did, but I truly don’t know if I can risk bringing another soul into this world that might be capable of doing more evil.

Brady: Doug really accused marlena of attacking julie?

John: Oh, he was adamant about it.

Brady: Dad, that’s just evidence of his mental decline then, right? Symptom of dementia?

John: Maybe.

Brady: “Maybe”? What other explanation is there? Why would marlena hit julie?

John: Well, according to doug, marlena attacked him too.

Brady: What?

John: And more to the point, doug said that marlena tried to kill him. When I heard about the science behind the new

Gabi: I’m just gonna tell philip I’m gonna take the deal.

Jake: No, no, no, gabi, wait, please.

Gabi: Wait for what? I’ve already made my decision. I choose you.

Jake: Okay, I know we’ve been doing a lot of joking about who’s gonna be ceo if we take over titan.

Gabi: When we take over titan.

Jake: Okay. What I’m trying to say is, gabi, you’re incredible. You impress me every day with your strength. Your determination. Your lady boss badassery. I mean, you built gabi chic from nothing.

Gabi: And if it goes away, this time, I won’t have nothing. I will have you.

Jake: Hey, look, I appreciate you trying to protect me. It means everything. But I’m not gonna let anybody take your company away from you. So we’re gonna have to find another way to stop philip.

Chloe: What’s going on here is, your stepson is trying to destroy any chance of our relationship working out.

Philip: But I’m the one fighting for it.

Chloe: You know what? I’m done now. I am sick of your obsession, and I’m sick of you not trusting me!

Philip: No, I never said I didn’t trust you.

Maggie: Well, it kind of seemed like–

Philip: Chloe’s right. I was being a world-class jerk, and she doesn’t deserve that. But I’m not gonna sit still while brady steals her away from me again.

Brady: Doug believes marlena tried to kill him.

John: You know, son, it just could be that doug is feeling guilty that he attacked julie, and it’s easier for him just to blame marlena.

Brady: Wow. I can’t even imagine how julie is feeling about all this.

John: You think? Having the one person you love more than anybody in this world be a threat to you?

Ciara: We don’t have to talk about ben and me right now.

Julie: I want to. I want to. It would be a distraction from all the misery and confusion.

Ciara: Okay. Well, in that case, ben and I have been discussing what it would feel like to have a baby.

Julie: Oh, wonderful.

Ciara: Yeah, it is. It’s just–it seems like I’m a little more ready to have a family than ben is.

Julie: Ben doesn’t want to have children?

Ciara: No. He does. He just has some of his own issues that he needs to work out before he can commit.

Julie: Understandable.

Ciara: Yeah.

Julie: Considering his family’s history and his own.

Ciara: Yeah. Well, he is in a session right now with marlena, so hopefully she can help him work through some of his feelings. There’s no one I trust more than marlena.

Ben: Am I just being too cautious? Am I being paranoid?

Marlena: I think your fears are very understandable, and having a child is just about the most important decision a couple can make. It is a lifelong commitment, you know. And I think that every child has the right to be loved and wanted without reservation.

Ben: Without reservation. I know how much ciara wants to have a baby with me, but the more you and I sit here and talk about this, the more convinced I am that it is just not the right thing to do.

Marlena: Are you sure?

Ben: I know how much pain I’ve caused. And even though I found a way to process it, the guilt and the shame, it’s never gonna fully leave me. I can’t chance my child suffering that same fate or me being responsible for more suffering or death. I’m worried that I’m gonna spend my days standing over his or her crib watching and waiting for signs of something bad to happen. I can’t go through with that. I can’t do that to ciara, and I will not do that to my child.

Marlena: I’m so sorry, ben.

Ben: Thank you, and thank you for taking the time to see me.

Marlena: Mm.

[Static crackles]

Devil voice: Don’t let him go, marlena. You need to convince ben weston that he and his wife must have this baby.


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